Comments on: Michael Vick Sacked By Nike, Reebok

Amid Dog-Fighting Scandal, Nike Suspends Quarterback's Contract, Reebok Halts Sale Of His Jersey

[opedanderson]

Like it or not this is a racial issue. Black people are quickly learning a valuable lesson. Dont mess with animals. White people LOVE animals more than people.

During the massacre of Rwanda in the 90's the Hutu leadership made it very clear to their hencemen NOT to touch the volatile white gorilla population less they really want to raise the ire of the west! Kill 800 000 Tutsi's ok. Just dont kill the gorillas in the mist.

[iceman_1960]

"You kill a chicken in America and you will have these nut cases protesting establishments and burning down test facilities! FACT!"
- Posted by cryonbrian at 09:08 AM : Jul 28, 2007

Amusing hyperbole.

The killing of chickens advanced beyond the testing phase a few millenia ago.

Besides, cruelty to animals and to humans is closely related -- which is why Clint Eastwood is a vegan and refuses to go hunting.

Child psychologists will tell you that cruelty by small children is a very dangerous sign of future criminality against human beings. Notorious killers like Jeffrey Dahmer and Richard Allen Davis were into disgusting acts of cruelty to animals in their younger days. Davis, the murderer of Polly Klaas, used to pour gasoline on cats and set them on fire.

[drummer94]

cry me a river, cryer. He was a mediocre player at best. Teammates hated playing second fiddle to this guy. Football is a team sport. Like a lot of idiots who sneak into the Pro sports system, he was not equipped to handle the gross amount of money the white and black establishment was handing him. Get off'n it. The moron is done. His next job should be cleaning the cages at a local humane society.

[iceman_1960]

"It is very rare in America to find people protesting when someone kills another human being!"
- Posted by cryonbrian at 09:08 AM : Jul 28, 2007

Don't get to Chicago much, do you.

It seems that whenever there is a senseless killing of a young student in Chicago's poorer neighborhoods, demonstrations are held denouncing the thugs and calling for stricter punishments and prevention.

Here's a recent one:

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/441135,23jackson.article

[cryonbrian]

Iceman_1960

It is very rare in America to find people protesting
when someone kills another human being!

You kill a chicken in America and you will have these nut cases protesting establishments and burning down test facilities! FACT!

[iceman_1960]

"In America a man can rape and murder women at will and no one ever comes out holding signs calling for his death."
- Posted by cryonbrian at 08:13 AM : Jul 28, 2007

Huh ?

Signs seen in the cheering crowd at Ted Bundy's execution in the electric chair:

"Burn, Bundy, Burn"

"Rest in Pieces, Ted"

"I like my Ted 'well done'"

"Roses are red,
Violets are blue.
Hello, Ted,
We're going to KILL you."

The cheering crowd exceeeded 100 people.

[cryonbrian]

Thats the problem with America!

You can go out a molest children and you can cop a plea and do no jail time.


Kill animals and they want to give you life in prison and take away your income.

Vick will be back and that is a fact! You think he makes money? He makes nothing compared to the White folks that hired him to throw a ball and endorse products! Once he is out of this mess he will slowly rebuild his financial network. Happens all the time! Get over it!

[drummer94]

Good! Nothing brings you into reality like when your money goes away. This guy should have gotten some professional help managing his dough. Now he's skrewed hisself beyond repair. I hope the NFL gives him the boot 2.

[Ed0719]

Some people here seem to think that because other people commit more heinous crimes, that "minor" crimes should be overlooked. That's not how the system works, people. All crimes, even those you might consider "minor", should be dealt with in accordance with the law. Giving someone a pass simply because Bush and Cheney are war-criminals is rather silly.

While under the law Vick is presumed innocent, I think the dead dogs and other incriminating evidence against him is pretty sufficient to charge him with the crimes.

[cryonbrian]

In America a man can rape and murder women at will and no one ever comes out holding signs calling for his death.

In America a man kills dogs and he is greeting with protesters holding signs asking for his death.

Only In America!

[adian1-2009]

Some comments seem to condemn the step taken by Nike and Reebok. They contend that this gentleman enjoys the presumption of innocence. They are right regarding this argument. But it must be taken into account that in our country a person is accused --formally charged before a court of law-- only after probable cause has been determined. Probable cause means that there is some evidence that a crime has been committed and that there is a probability that the person charged committed it. That is why even though the presumption of innocence has a constituional rank, people can be legally jaled pending trial, or requested to put up a bond if they want to remain free pending trial. What NIKE and REEBOK have done is more than justified. In fact, it was their duty.

[cantshutup]

you people who are making the dumb racist comments don't get it...and i think you're over reacting a bit over dog fighting, which while horrible, doesn't hardly compare to the stuff we really ought to be worried about...like an executive branch thumbing its nose at our laws, trampling the constitution and stealing our liberties...oh, or maybe the fact that your job will probably soon be outsourced to india soon or that our military is trained to violate our 2nd amendment rights...white trailor trash rednecks probably invented pit bull fighting, so get off your ignorant high horses...! we got bigger problems than this distraction...

[mbpfrance]

Remember the Duke university lacrosse case!!!!!!

Despite what we feel we know, it is based on what we have been told by the press only! All that adds up to exactly NOTHING to me at this point. If we have learned anything this past year it is NOT TO BELEIVE what is sworn testimony or allegations, be it by the FBi or a the Attorney General, Generals in the Army, or a City Prosecutor!

That is not to say he should'nt keep a low profile and focus on getting this chapter behind him! He has to stand tall, alone and weather the storm here! If he is innocent at least he has the resources to exhaust every possible window to prove that!

A man who earns approxiamtely $75000USD per day has no motive to get into a sport that pays loose change comparatively! It does not add up!


He has to be allowed to be innocent until proven otherwise. If not, if we demand suspension, cancelled contracts, and worse his neck... etc on allegation alone , then any and all of us better start looking to have a real good attorney close by just in case *** lands on your door based on someones allegation alone.

Remember he has entered a plea of not quilty!

[nothappyatall]

Memerable quotes to the media by PeTA showing their extinct pets agenda is behind their push for MANDATORY spay-neuter bills such as the one that failed in California recently. Read these quotes and then it becomes clear why they are pushing the bills;

"The cat, like the dog, must disappear...We should cut the domestic cat free from our dominance by neutering, neutering, and more neutering, until our pathetic version of the cat ceases to exist."
-John Bryant, Fettered Kingdoms: An Examination of a Changing Ethic, PETA 1982, p.15.

Pet ownership is an "absolutely abysmal situation brought about by human manipulation."
-Ingrid Newkirk, PETA
(Washingtonian Magazine, August 1986)

"One day we would like an end to pet shops and the breeding of animals.
(Dogs) would pursue their natural lives in the wild...They would have full
lives, not waiting at home for someone to come home in the evening and pet
them and then sit there and watch TV."
Ingrid Newkirk - Founder, PETA
"Where Would We Be Without Animals?, Chicago Daily Herald, March 1, 1990

"...Eventually companion animals would be phased out, and we would return
to a more symbiotic relationship, enjoyment at a distance."

Ingrid Newkirk - Founder, PETA
Harpers, August, 1988

Sign the petition to have PETA's tax-exempt status removed;
petakillsanimals.com/article_detail.cfm?article=154

[nothappyatall]

Although we successfully defeated California AB 1634, an overreaching and invasive mandatory pet spay/neuter law, our opponents have not given up.

While the author of the bill, Assemblyman Lloyd Levine, prepares another version of AB 1634 for the Senate Local Government Committee, those behind the measure have only increased their shrill rhetoric and efforts against pet owners.

On a national level, PETA is urging supporters to "Meet with your local officials to get a [mandatory spay/neuter law] passed in your own community," and encouraging Assemblyman Levine, "not to give up."

[nothappyatall]

Hey zertrat- dog fighting is already ILLEGAL and has been for a long time in all 50 states, IF convicted the jerk ill do time no thanks to PeTA.

PeTA is doing nothing but capitalize on the publicity for their sick agenda of extincting dogs with their pushing the mandatory spay-neuter of *ALL* dogs legislative bills. Anyone who would support this group is a NUT CASE and their anti pet agenda is proof they are dangerous to anyone who has animals.
I signed the petition to YANK their non-profit status.

From the July 2007 issue of DVM magazine..

PETA Targeted in DEA probe
Norfolk, VA The Drug Enforcement Administration is investigated how members of PETA handle euthanasia drugs.

While the inquiry is being dubbed "administrative" DEA agents searched PETA headquarters and made copies of training manuals and competency certificates for 17 employees according to news reports.
PETA reported euthanzing 2,000 animals in 2005.

By the way, while these groups yammer about overcrowded shelters, there are shelters who are IMPORTING stray dogs from overseas, WHY???!!!;

Best Friends airlifting dogs from Lebanon to US.
http://www.bestfriends.org/aboutus/media/092506crisis.cfm

[dannyttown]

zertrat, you're a pretty sharp cookie. I love your persuasive points. Very well said!

[zertrat]

Vick, guilty or not?

We will find out.

Can he be suspended anyway? Of course. If you peed on the desk of your boss, would you be suspended before a trial? If you got busted for possession of cocaine would you be put on leave? Of course. If you were caught in bed with the bosses wife, would you be fired or shot dead? Of course.

I cannot understand how it is that people believe "innocent until proven guilty" applies to the work place, and secondly, why it would allow anyone to have the entitlement of earning millions of dollars in the face of unambiguous allegations. Keep protecting the millionaires. Let regular people suffer by lacking similar protections. This is all about fame, glory, star power, and the home team winning.

Anyone pushing "justice" is hypocritical.

[zertrat]

I know *** well why you folks are upset about PETA. We all do. You do. They make you realize how disgusting it is that you daily consume cadavers. This is not what the Vick case is about, so relax.

It is not about eating the cadavers, it is about causing living flesh to become cadavers in inhumane ways, in acts that glorify violence, and excuse human emotion and responsibility. PETA is all about people and their actions more than animals (By the way, I'm not a member.)

Now, go eat your cheeseburger or bullsballs. That's not the issue here, and stop crying and complaining. Violence to non-human animals and to humans is highly correlated. Sick florks are sick florks no matter what the victim.

[zertrat]

I'm so happy to hear that PETA is blasted for standing up against injustices. Man, that would ruin this country for good. Just think of how our American Revolution was based on standing up in favor of injustices. What an anti-American thing, to stand against injustices. Paul Revere. the Boston Tea Party. George Washington. They were all about conforming to injustices.

Yeah, PETA doesn't want Vick and others to electrocute, drown and beat to death dogs. And do you know what the NFL official statement was. "We agree with PETA."