Comments on: Sexual Harassment A Hurdle For Teen Girls
Study: Teenage Girls Often Subjected To Unwanted Romantic Advances, Academic Sexism
- I can definitely understand that most of the thins on that list are improper behaviors.
However, those of you who believe "receiving unwanted romantic attention from a male" is in itself a form of sexual harassment have absolutely no clue what it is like being a young man. First, he is told he has to "make the first move" and "be persistent." If she accepts, then great. Otherwise, is he to be viewed as somehow deviant for daring to bother her with his affection?
Maybe she just wants to be friends we naively accept because, of course, he really likes her and wants to be her friend. It works for awhile, but all the time, she grows farther and farther apart because she already knows the extent of how he really feels and this makes her "uncomfortable."
As long as humans have been on earth, males have been attracted to females, and vice versa and it isn''t always reciprocated. Unless he starts doing the other stuff on the list, please don''t treat him like some kind of pervert just because he likes you. - Reply to this comment
- Men are constantly be portrayed as incompetent, in both the bedroom and working world, where as women now get prefered treatment as strong, independent, forward moving people.
Now if some ad company would try to do that to women or some minority the feminist groups, and ACLU would be all over that with law suits and harrassment claims! I think next time I see an ad that portrays men in that manner the ACLU should stand up for mens rights or someone with the finacial back file a class action law suit to uphold a mans rights and dignity! - Reply to this comment
- Funny how those who never have to deal with it, or perpetrate it are always so quick and defensive to say it doesn''t exist, or is no big deal. It is a big deal. I''m a female computer programmer. In school, some of the teachers do indeed make gender assumptions - I tried to discuss an issue about going further into graphing complex multi-dimensional integrations with my teacher - and he assumed I wanted to talk about the colors in the pretty pictures. I had another teacher who made it clear every day he didn''t think women belonged in his software engineering course. No surprise I was the only one there. I still got an A in both cases - because I''m very intelligent and was able to learn from the book and further research when the teachers were no good.
Yes, people sufficiently motivated, with a good support system, can ignore harassment. They shouldn''t have to. And people who already have a difficult situation, the harassment can push them over the edge. My mom is a great math wiz. She tried to take it in college - and was pushed away by everyone (in those days, really, everyone) saying no reason for a woman to take up space in college level math classes. - Reply to this comment
- It is not teen girls alone that face this problem.Just look at what is happening to Hillary Rodham Clinton in the hands of a male dominated American media.
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- dr_j_g: I disagree I think its more a matter of human nature. In the west we have stripped away tradition. we are all free. I believe this allows our primal instincts to manifest them selfs. Thus women prefer aggressive dominate males. This in turns forces the males to become ever more aggresive. I don''t know a lot about Indian mating rituals, but I have been looking into the middle east and how they treat their women. I kinda get them. I saw a study that concluded a pretty girl will make a man stupid for a minute or two. Later that day a pretty girl walked by and I knocked over a starbucks display. My male biology can be very annoying. I get the burka thing. Its good for skin cancer too. Anyways I think the Middle east shows us how traditions have evolved to deal with these issues.
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- I never snapped a girls bra strap. But I know a lot of guys who did. Guess what? They got laid. And thats the problem Women say I want a nice guy. Then date the first *** hole that comes along. Its doesn''t take us long to figure out what you really want. You treat a few girls like a gentleman and they walk on you. You treat one like *** and she will worship the ground you walk on. Thats were my bitterness comes from. I''am the nice guy and I have suffered greatly for it.
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- Perhaps it has a lot to do with general prevalent culture in a society that does not respect either women or intelligence, and instead promotes football and disco and dating as height of desirable achievement for growing young; since there is no respect for subjects that are hard and women are looked down on as compulsor-ily *** objects males fear the intelligence of girls if it is not carefully hidden beneath makeup, dress, and soft academic or non academic persona. And such fear results in sexual harrassment of girls, while it might result in beating up of intelligent young males who are not hefty and upper stratum culturally or racially or financially.
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- Wow! Talk about a bunch of bitter men. So, I gather you are all upset that the world changed so much that it is no longer your private playgrounds! Geesh! We are talking 12 to 18 year old girls here. Maybe you could find another way to vent your spleen.
Do you think it''s alright for a boy to pull the bra on a girl and tease her about her breast size? My 14 years old daughter came home with just such a story last year. My advice was for her to YELL loudly that he should get his hands off of her right there in the class. The next time this young man decided it was okay to pull my daughter''s bra, he ended up in front of the Dean of the school. If my daughter was pulling on your son''s pants I would want her to face consequences too, but that''s not how things are working out. - Reply to this comment
- dr_j_g: I will assume you are not trying to be racist. However I do feel they need to point out that India suffers from social problems of its own. Their is a group in India who are considered below low class. Until recently it was even ok to kill them. A recent news report talked about a pregnant women who belong to this group who was allowed to die because no doctor would treat her. Part of the difference is courtship rituals. In America and Europe we do not arrange marriages thus everyone is responsible for finding their own mates this a by product of that friction. Unfortunatley our women have developed a supperiority complex. Basicly its Ok for the football quarter back to hit on her but not the class nerd.
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- If you can''t fathom how ''receiving unwanted romantic attention from a male'' is harassment, then you are probably part of the problem.
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- All I have to say to this study is a royal BS
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- One wonders why this behaviour from male colleagues and teachers and so forth is so much more prevalent in European-ancestral races, whether in U.S. or in continental Europe. Picture is different in India - until women are limited by their need to contribute a bit to children and home they are respected for doing science, and women with science or academic careers are largely helped by joint families sharing home and child care post childrens'' breastfeeding needs.
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- Big deal. Be a man about it. We get sexually harrased daily. If its not some women trying to get ahead by acting "Cute" wearing a short skirt. Its some other male talking about the size of his member. If its not that its the male disparaging commercials on TV. You know the ones were the man is an idiot and the woman has all the answers. The Vonage commercials come to mind. Why do all the female news casters have big **** and wear low cut shirts? I just want the news. I don''t want a peep show. As men and boys we are in a very difficult situation. We are expected to ask women out. Yet if she doesn''t want us to ask her out then some how we are stalkers. There are currently more women in college than men. I think that invalidates the report. Furthermore. IF you don''t want male sexual attention stop asking for it. Stop wearing make up. Stop fixing your hair. Stop wearing skimpy out fits. Stop com peteing with other women for male attention. Women are a tease and they get pissed if you are not willing to just be teased. I had to tell a girl at work to stop smiling at me and bating her eyes when ever she wanted something. I found it totally unprofessional.
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- More reasons why schools should re-adopt uniforms and teach education rather than tolerating love notes or bullies as "freedom of speech", both of which are irrelevant to the point OF schools.
The gay community recently had a fit because of some principal''s attitudes as well. If school was limited to teaching and not fraternizing, so many of these problems would be eliminated before they started.
Equality starts with adulthood. Kids sadly aren''t born to learn how to behave and get educated. Bullies should be properly dealt with, those with PDDs CAN contribute to society despite certain impediments, and this "romance" garbage be flushed too. - Reply to this comment
- SO IS REGISTERING FOR THE DRAFT WHEN THEY ARE 18!
EQUAL RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES!
AMERICA STAND UP OR SHUT UP! - Reply to this comment
- JasonM ... "no" means "no" ... it''''s that simple.
Posted by emelder at 12:41 PM : May 15, 2008
First, they must say "no." Until then, they are the only ones who know whether the attention is unwanted or not. They onten fail to do this.
The biggest problems with this "study" are the broad definition of sexual harassment and the fact that only girls in two states were included. The proper title for the article:
Sexual Harassment A Hurdle For Teen Girls In Some Parts Of California And Georgia. - Reply to this comment
- JasonM ... "no" means "no" ... it''s that simple.
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- A group of feminists get together. They determine to attempt to further the feminist agenda. They concoct a set of parameters for this so called "study" which will further the feminist agenda. They hire committed feminists and/or young women they have managed to brain wash. They prepare appropriately feminist agenda supporting questions. They determinedly ignore all common sense. Immutable male/female human nature is treated as though it is a disease and they come to their predetermined conclusion. Presto: They produce the "study" this article is based upon. Oh, yes - I almost forgot. They make sure some feminist writer(s) get their hands on this "study" to send it out to the media, a group that in general is in league with the nonsense spouted in this study and the feminist ethos. What a surprise! What an addition to human knowledge.
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- Someone explain how this nonsense is sexual harrassment to me please "Receiving unwanted romantic attention from a male"
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- What a load of *** article. Women makes comments all the time about an ability or inabilily of a man to do something simply because they are "men."
Can''t have it both ways ladies....you want equality, be prepared to treat everyone equal... - Reply to this comment
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