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Research Also Shows More Than Half Of U.S. Alcoholics Are Young Adults

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by grammawhamma July 2, 2007 3:53 AM EDT
somebloke...Technically I guess you are right. Alcoholism causes the things that will kill you as you stated. (Google end-stage alcoholism and you will find over 2 million sites describing the symptoms and eventual death.) Cigarettes don't technically kill you either then, they just give you the lung cancer that will kill you. Jumping in a blazing inferno won't kill you...you will just die from the burns caused by the fire. Need I go on?? You complain about tax payer dollars being spent on treating DT's etc. and then you complain of AA (which has a pretty good track record of success and is free) because it incorpates religion. You yourself stated AA has improved the lives of many individuals...so what is it to you if the religious aspect works? AA does not have to remove the Christian "hoopla" just because you think so.
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by incog-nito July 2, 2007 3:48 AM EDT
If this is a "disease", then I guess any addiction to anything is also a disease. Didn't they just tried to call video game addiction a disease also? Next thing you know they'll come up with a special therapy or drug to treat "Video Game Addiction Syndrome". How about watching too much TV? Aggressing driving? Diseases too?

I can sympathize with people with alcohol problems lacking the support to overcome their habit. Breaking an ingrained habit can be very difficult for any one of us (God knows I've tried with my habits), and they need all the help and support they can get. But call it what it is, a habit, not a disease.
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by bohdawg July 2, 2007 3:48 AM EDT
Alcoholics, alcoholism, etc is what it is to the people who have it. Those of you who post things in here talking about self control and discipline and all that are pathetic. You obviously don't have a problem with alcohol as some others do so you don't understand it yet instead of opening yourself up to what others are going through you are close minded and talk down to others. Its just like someone who abuses any other drug. They become addicted to it and they can't do without it and it can get to a point where they go through extreme withdrawals. Everyone has some sort of character flaw, bad trait, etc. These could all be considered diseases to other people. Obviously some people have nothing better to do than post idiotic messages on these. I hope when something bad happens in your life the people around you don't treat you like you are treating the people on here.
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by somebloke July 2, 2007 12:41 AM EDT
I'm sorry, that was GrammaWhamma who was the nurse
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by somebloke July 2, 2007 12:34 AM EDT
Judy...no one dies of "end stages of alcoholism" ...they die of things like kidney failure as a result of years of drinking...or from alcohol poisoning (drinking too much at one time.) Yes DT's can be quite harmful and even life threatening in extreme cases but there's a slew of drugs and treatments all of which are available (usually on the taxpayer's dime) that are ment to treat the withdrawal symptoms. Alcoholism isn't something you eventually die from like Lou Gherrig's disease...are you sure you actually work in the medical field?

Also, if you have an "alergy to alcohol" which is just a silly notion, it would mean you COULDN'T drink it. There's no such illness where one drink forces you to drink the whole thing to keep from getting sick...you're thinking of Lay's potato chips: nobody can eat just one.

While AA has improved the quality of lives for many individuals its important to remember that its also just a tool for religious fundies to convert "sinners." The program needs to modernise and remove all the christian hooplah.
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by bandobando July 1, 2007 11:13 PM EDT
By the definition of disease(which is very broad), every person on this planet is diseased.

I have to agree though, you aww whacka disispwin.
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by judyhelen1 July 1, 2007 11:02 PM EDT
I was 37 years old when I went to my first A.A. meeting. I was told that I have an allergy to alcoholic - if I drink one drink, I need to drink an entire bottle. It is a physical, mental and spiritual disease. I got a sponsor, bought a Big Book of A.A. and worked the 12 steps. I will be celebrating 24 years of sobriety on July 14, 2007.
I stay sober one day at a time. I ask my higher power to help me stay sober in the morning and I thank Him every night.

It doesn't make a bit of difference to me about types of alcoholics. Lots of people die from this disease and have ruined lives because of alcohol.
There is a solution and I found it in A. A.

Anyone with a drinking problem can contact A.A.
from their phone book or e-mail: www.aa.org
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by grammawhamma July 1, 2007 10:51 PM EDT
chiefbttlwsh...yes, people who are alcoholics or are close to an alcoholic believe alcoholism is a disease. Since obviously you just think it is a matter of self control shows you know "nothing" about it. I'm a nurse that has taken care of people in D.T.'s. I have also taken care of people dying of end stage alcoholism. Some were quite young and some married with little kids standing around mommy or daddy's death bed to say their last goodbye. It is a horrid death. I know what I am talking about...it is a disease and one that kills!!
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by chiefbttlwsh July 1, 2007 9:54 PM EDT
People who believe in "alcoholism" are either people who were told they "have a problem" (and believe them) or are "very close" to someone who does.

The problem isn't drinking. Drinking is a symptom of something else. Maybe your stupid, maybe you have no coping skills, maybe you have nothing better to do, maybe you are anti-social...whatever

YOU ALL LACK DISCLIPINE.

Get a life and quit blaming your problem on something "you cannot control"--This is more of the pussification of America.

AA is a cult.
You are all fools.
Have fun at your self-help support groups.
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by grammawhamma July 1, 2007 9:25 PM EDT
somebloke...I disagree. It is as easy as just don't take that next drink in the beginning "before" that drink controls you. However, once alcohol controls your life it is a disease. Do you think alcoholics want to wake up in their own vomit, shaking so bad they can't hold a glass of water with out spilling it. Alcoholics don't want that first drink of the day....they need it. Alcoholics can't just quit cold turkey without help. D.T.'s can be life threatening without medical intervention.
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