Comments on: Salt-Water Fish Extinction Seen By 2048

Study By Ecologists, Economists Predicts Collapse of World Ocean Ecology

[chicatibu]

The greatest harm to mankind is fractured science, all the doomsday science isn%u2019t worth a bucket of warm spit in the long run. None of those predictions ever turn out to be right.

[juanthomas14]

There had been a moratorium against anchovy fishing between Spain and France. Both governments decided, against the judgement of fishermen and scientists that the moratorium should be lifted ( it was actually a quota system). The results are there for anyone to see. There are hardly any anchovies in Northern Spain where dozens of canneries lived off this industry. It is not too late if tough political decisions are taken and kept.

[arsenixprime]

Before passing judgement on a scientific study, try reading the actual article and not basing your view on a summary. After seeing this article I pulled down the full article. It is a very in depth study, not some idiots extrapolating trends to Armageddon like some of the fools above seem to indicate.

Despite the prediction of extinction the study actually has some positive conclusions. Their findings indicate that existing efforts to protect marine ecosystems work, they just need to be done on a larger scale. They also found that economic income (from both fishing and tourism) increased when waters were protected.

Seriously folks, read the article before dismissing it as "garbage science"... it's at your local library.

James

[arsenixprime]

Before passing judgement on a scientific study, try reading the actual article and not basing your view on a summary. After seeing this article I pulled down the full article. It is a very in depth study, not some idiots extrapolating trends to Armageddon like some of the fools above seem to indicate.

Despite the prediction of extinction the study actually has some positive conclusions. Their findings indicate that existing efforts to protect marine ecosystems work, they just need to be done on a larger scale. They also found that economic income (from both fishing and tourism) increased when waters were protected.

Seriously folks, read the article before dismissing it as "garbage science"... it's at your local library.

James

[Wesley_Mouch]

"If present trends continue" is garbage science.

Gee, last week two people died from rabies. This week four people died from rabies. IF THIS TREND CONTINUES then in about 31 weeks 8 billion people will have died from rabies.

I'm astounded that this garbage was published in a peer-reviewed journal.

[diddineye]

Anyone who has seen the Matrix remember when "Mr Smith"said this to"Morpheus":your species doesn`t quite fit the accepted definition of mammals;every other mammal reaches an equilibrium with the environment, but you humans exhaust every resource,and then move on to another area.This most closely fits the definition of a virus."
My quote is probably not verbatum,but the reasonong is clear;we must do better with regard to our stewardship of this planet.Native Americans nurtured,replenished,conserved had respect for mother Earth
Who then is/was the barbarian?

[needleman3]

Does it matter what the exact date is? Here in Nova Scotia, where the studies began, some fish populations-- cod, for example, haven't recovered despite a moratorium for over a decade.
There are 200 North Atlantic Right Whales left. That's hardly a sign of hope.

The ocean is as relevant as the forest in terms of the make-up of our atmosphere. Small life forms in the ocean, like trees, manufacture what we humans breathe.

Humans are catching 15,000 sharks every hour-- and only eat the fins. Sharks kill 5 humans every year. We have thrown off the large animal populations in the sea, and the smaller ones will be affected, down to the algae. The human population grows explosively while almost every other large animal species is down to record low numbers and dropping. We're obsessively selfish, destructive, and nuts.

[needleman3]

Does it matter what the exact date is? Here in Nova Scotia, where the studies began, some fish populations-- cod, for example, haven't recovered despite a moratorium for over a decade.
There are 200 North Atlantic Right Whales left. That's hardly a sign of hope.

The ocean is as relevant as the forest in terms of the make-up of our atmosphere. Small life forms in the ocean, like trees, manufacture what we humans breathe.

Humans are catching 15,000 sharks every hour-- and only eat the fins. Sharks kill 5 humans every year. We have thrown off the large animal populations in the sea, and the smaller ones will be affected, down to the algae. The human population grows explosively while almost every other large animal species is down to record low numbers and dropping. We're obsessively selfish, destructive, and nuts.

[three-o-six]

The error made is that you can not extrapolate a curve as they have when there are so many variables. I am not saying that they are not correct in their current figures. This is the problem with the whole environmental movement. They cry wolf way to often and now no one believes them. (remember that this was supposed to be a bad hurricane year, ect).

[cwfabian]

Stop and think for a minute people, if you can remember how to do that. I'm not quite ready to call this "junk science" or "scare science" just yet but I become immediately skeptical about studies like these that tag an exact date or year onto them. In 42 years the world's oceans will be empty of fish?? Go get a globe and take a long look at it. See all of that blue stuff? That would be oceans and seas. In the US fishing already IS a heavily regulated industry. There are only certain times and durations for most commercial fishing seasons, size limits depending on species, and only certain waters that can or cannot be fished. I hate to be synical because I am an avid outdoorsman and a steward of the environment, but the bottom line of this study smells political.