Comments on: U.S. To Hand Anbar Province Over To Iraqis

Former Hotbed Of Insurgency Now Deemed Safe Enough For Iraqi Forces To Keep Control Alone

[misha128-2009]

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED in Anbar Province. Thank God no-one listened to the defeatist Dummycrats.

Posted by BlameGovt at 08:46 AM : Aug 28, 2008

No you just got fooled by the Bush/McCain propaganda machine again --- The first Mission Accomplished banner was even considered a mistake by many Republicans. So you raise it again! Did you believe McCain when he said we had succeeded in Iraq. Check out the posts below -- You and McCain both own a equal shares of Bush''s staged "Mission Accomplished" gaffe.

see Posted by misha128 at 09:17 AM
and Posted by misha128 at 09:16 AM

[misha128-2009]

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"Billions of tax payers dollars" Where did you get that made up number?

We have not provided "Billions" of tax payers dollars to tribal leaders in Anbar.

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Posted by ArmySGT5 at 08:08 AM

Then how much did we spend at $300 / month / INSURGENT along with a guarantee of employment at the end of their service? Do our soldiers get guaranteed employment at the end of their service? Sounds like a pretty good deal for an enemy of the US. Rumors from Iraq are that it may be backfiring -- those expecting guaranteed employment are learning that the US is leaving and the Iraqi government has blocked or excluded even more of them from future government employment in Iraq. Their chance to participate in provincial elections (as they boycotted the first election) was first delayed and canceled this year. Their share of Iraqi Oil revenue for regional development not enacted into law by the Iraqi government.

[misha128-2009]

part 2


Could it be that we have only financed a large number of insurgents that will soon revert to a combatant roles due to false US promises and failed US diplomatic efforts in Iraq to achieve the benchmarks the Republicans, President Bush and Senator McCain negotiated with Congress AND PRESIDENT BUSH SIGNED INTO LAW? Making the "SURGE" only the latest abysmal failure of the Bush/McCain team in Iraq. A failure that is leading to resumption the Iraqi Civil and the genocide predicted if the President and Senator John "Surge" McCain were not allowed to conduct the Surge. How many lives were lost civilian and military as a result of the surge? How many more lives will be lost as consolidated and rested factions reengage in the conflict the surge only temporarily suspended?

[midvale3]

midvale3 - actually the name BlameGovt is poking fun at the people so fixated on government that they blame it for everything.
I just believe that we needed to leave Iraq on a positive note and not a foasco like Vietnam. But it is time to leave very shortly.


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Posted by BlameGovt at 08:55 AM : Aug 28, 2008


That was my next thought. I like the name, just curious. Some names explain themselves, others seem to have different meanings.

[blamegovt]

midvale3 - actually the name BlameGovt is poking fun at the people so fixated on government that they blame it for everything.
I just believe that we needed to leave Iraq on a positive note and not a foasco like Vietnam. But it is time to leave very shortly.

[midvale3]

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED in Anbar Province. Thank God no-one listened to the defeatist Dummycrats.


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Posted by BlameGovt at 08:46 AM : Aug 28, 2008


You never explained your "BlameGovt" name yesterday when your party the Republicans have been running the government for the past 8 years (6 years for Congress). Are you saying the party in power is the problem, there shouldn''t be any government (military, etc), or just picking up on a theme you heard?

[midvale3]

Very Naive Nancy,

You need to check and see how many convoys are run each day within Iraq, not focous on the convoys with goods. The soldiers that did transport food and goods are now conducting combat partols. So you claim that supplies arriving by air reduces the chance of an IED is false. The target changes from a supply convoy to a combat patrol.


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Posted by ArmySGT5 at 08:08 AM : Aug 28, 2008

Wow, you seem to know everything going on in Iraq, no matter what the region. That''s pretty good considering most of the Leaders there don''t know whats happening down to the convoy level. How are you able to get all of this detailed information? It might help people like Nancy to understand the situation better.

[blamegovt]

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED in Anbar Province. Thank God no-one listened to the defeatist Dummycrats.

[jmurrieta1]

""There aren''t a whole heck of a lot of bad guys there left to fight," Gen. James T. Conway, the top Marine Corps general, said Wednesday."

Just amazing how a sackfull of greenbacks will turn a bad guy into a good guy.

But the price is cheap.

Now Mitt Romney''s 5 sons can avoid military service just like Mitt did.

[misha128-2009]

Headlines from other sources:

"Top Marine eyes shift from Iraq to Afghanistan
Officer: Anbar handover could free up troops to fight rising Afghan violence"

Months ago the Marines lobbied Sec''y of Defense Gates to be given the Afghanistan assignment and that the Army be given the Iraq assignment. Their lobbying efforts seem to be continuing. Is that because they believe Afghanistan is winnable? Is that because they know the people that attacked the US are in or around Afghanistan and not in Iraq? Is that because the Afghans want our help and the Iraqis really want us to leave?

McCain wanted to go after Iraq before the dust settled from 9/11 and before we had any idea who was behind he attack. Cheerleading Senator John McCain was selling the diversion of resources into Iraq even though he knew Osama Bin Laden was in or around Afghanistan. Does that sound like a man committed to chasing Osama Bin Laden to the "Gates of Hell"? Instead of a chase is sounds more like a slow mosey with weekends and holidays off, only as long as something more important does not come up.

[misha128-2009]

Part 2

Senator McCain already has his eyes on two issues he considers more important, Iran and Georgia. He should probably be looking at Pakistan where after Musharraf stepped down there are rumors the coalition ruling Pakistan is is collapsing. Al Qaeda and the Taliban are both in Pakistan along with the Pakistani nuclear arsenal. Why are al Qaeda and the Taliban so strong in Pakistan? Could it be that the Republicans, President Bush and Cheerleading Senator McCain chose to run all the wars on a shoe string. Being undermanned for a strategy to surround and capture key targets in Afghanistan including Osama Bin Laden, those targets took advantage of the opportunity to escape to Pakistan?

Senator McCain has ignored the needs in Afghanistan for over a year. The Generals knew better. Senator Obama was listening to the generals and he knew better. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was listening to the Generals and he knew better. The Secretary of Defense was listening to the generals and he knew better. Very recently even President Bush finally listened to the generals and responded. Only after all of this did Senator McCain concede he was wrong and additional troops were needed in Afghanistan. Yet Senator McCain can still look the US public in the eye and claim he will chase Osama Bin Laden to the "Gates of Hell". Beware Senator McCain has yet to state when he would start the chase and how long he expects the chase to take.

[armysgt5]

tuckerndfw,

"Billions of tax payers dollars" Where did you get that made up number?

We have not provided "Billions" of tax payers dollars to tribal leaders in Anbar.


Very Naive Nancy,

You need to check and see how many convoys are run each day within Iraq, not focous on the convoys with goods. The soldiers that did transport food and goods are now conducting combat partols. So you claim that supplies arriving by air reduces the chance of an IED is false. The target changes from a supply convoy to a combat patrol.