Comments on: Der Spiegel Stands By Maliki Interview

Refutes Iraqi Gov’t Statement Released By U.S. Military Claiming Prime Minister Does Not Endorse Obama Withdrawal Timetable

[samthetvcat]

---"To step up and say you were for what Bush did is simply denying the right of the People to be told the TRUTH about why their family members are dying. It was a LIE and a FRAUD... is now and will always be. Sieg Heil Bush"---
Posted by MCVet

Okay, I understand what you''re saying. Maybe it would be more accurate for me to say that whenever one advocates NOT taking action against a country or leader who aren''t our friends, there comes with that policy-position if implemented a level of anxiety that perhaps on some level people think is worth going to war to avoid. And that if that''s the case, that same dynamic which was present before the invasion of Iraq is also present now as we discuss escalation of Afghanistan rather than phasing out nation-building in the middle-east, and that''s something people need to acknowledge within themselves if they keep advocating war and then denouncing it on grounds that our leaders are self-serving after-the-fact.

Thank you once again mcvet for your service!

[vnveteran72]

"When the Iraqis stand up, we''ll stand down"....
-Shrub Booosh

Time to go, Peanut Brain.....LMMFAO

[dwmcgill]

antonio,

I agree that the Republicans will get hammered in November. Someone has to take the fall since no one wants to hear that our own choices have led us this point.

On Maliki, the important message is that Iraq leadership is now confident enough to start seriously discussing self-determination. Everyone should be elated about what that could mean.

As for Iraq, they are taking serious strides in protecting themselves (while our surge contributed).

[mcvet]

He changed his tune when told he could be evicted from the "green zone" -all those Swiss accounts cannot be spent by a corpse.

Posted by babooph at 07:36 PM : Jul 20, 2008

ROFLMAO I have no doubt that the Fuhrer and Shooter Threatened him. That''s the ONLY way they know... the problem with doing that, since it''s SO OBVIOUS the people of Iraq want us out, you can never have a friend like that. We have NO business "Telling" the people of Iraq how to govern themselves... NONE at all.

[mcvet]

McVet, I''''m not GOP either. And I''''m shocked to hear you supported the war. Is that what you believe that you were lied to? Like were you ever okay keeping the saber-rattling mass-murdering Saddam Hussein IN power? Because that was what it meant to be against the war in Iraq.


Posted by SamTheTVCat at 07:12 PM : Jul 20, 2008

It''s not a matter of how I felt about Saddam it''s about the LIES and the deception. As someone who left 15 very good friends in Vietnam, I can tell you NO dictator is worth ONE American Life unless the Security of this nation is in the balance and IF that''s the ONLY option left. To step up and say you were for what Bush did is simply denying the right of the People to be told the TRUTH about why their family members are dying. It was a LIE and a FRAUD... is now and will always be. Sieg Heil Bush

[mcvet]

I am sure we''re all going to be amazed when Sir Lies-A-Lot leaves office at the threats and arrogance this loser has used because HE could not admit mistakes. One wonders how long it will take to restore the nation to the place it held PRIOR to the fascist taking over. To say we are in a bad way is to understate the obvious!

[towerg75th]

I know, why don''t we continue to advance our cause in Afghanistan and Iraq, including where ever else, by using the dominoe theory? Hell, if we don''t stop them there, the next thing you know is we''ll have to set up perimeters in our backyard right next to the bbq and croquet set! Just ask the French about Vietnam and the Russians about Afghanastan, because the rules never change because the outcome stays the same; just like dominoes! It''s like the dog who finally catches the bus. Now what?

[babooph]

He changed his tune when told he could be evicted from the "green zone" -all those Swiss accounts cannot be spent by a corpse.

[nssherlock1]

Providence-J



Go bible-thump with your own kind.

[providence-j]

When God himself came to town!

Man felt unloved, hurt and shame in his heart. Man could not deal with all of this. Man because of these emotions and feelings could not accept that God loved him not until Jesus, God manifested in the flesh, came 2 town. He healed and loved and accepted man while he was walking in this world. He cured people of their diseases he showed man the meaning of love all the while Satan wanted him dead and out of the way. He stirred up the people 2 crucify Jesus. This was his place and he was not going to allow Jesus 2 have any part of it. Then it finally happens, Satan got what he wanted, where one person comes running down the road crying out in the streets -They have killed Jesus.- The people who had hope could not understand why Gods son had 2 die on a cross of all places. That was until Jesus made it plain 2 them later on. It was Gods justice being satisfied at the cross, our sin debt was paid in full, This plan was Gods wisdom, his love is what made it happen and his power is available 4 everyone 2 call on Jesus as Their Lord and Savior, our assurance rest in the fact that salvation is all of God. The cross is the finish work of Jesus! All we have 2 do is accept it by proclaiming it by calling out loud 4 Jesus 2 save U. Will U turn and call on Jesus 2 save you? Will U let Jesus shine through your life 2 shock the world with his love?
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

[samthetvcat]

---"DO YOU ever ONCE indicate why we were lied into the war"---
Posted by MCVet

McVet, I''m not GOP either. And I''m shocked to hear you supported the war. Is that what you believe that you were lied to? Like were you ever okay keeping the saber-rattling mass-murdering Saddam Hussein IN power? Because that was what it meant to be against the war in Iraq.

All I''m doing is pointing out that escalation in Afghanistan is exactly the same unwinnable exercise in nation-building of a country rife with civil strife and corruption. I know that people are tired of 8 years of George Bush rule, and I know how promising it looks to have somebody different on the cusp of grabbing the reins. But there''s a whole new generation of troops who are pointing out that war is hell and that if Bin Laden and the taliban can hide out in sovereign Pakistan, then what the heck is the point of surging in Afghanistan. If we ignore that point because we''re scared of losing an election, then how are Dems any better than Repubs?

[mcvet]

I predict that it will be a blood bath in November for the Republicans. Wing nuts like you are destroying the Republican party. The swing voters are not impressed with your retoritic.

Neo cons do your self and the Republican party a favor leave now while you have nothing. Soon you will be an cancer on the GOP.

Posted by antoniof123 at 06:56 PM : Jul 20, 2008

Oh it is far to late in some states my friend. In the State I live in and states to our north independents far our rank Republican''s. They find the Fascist, you called them Neocon''s but I prefer the McCarthy Era name, to be just as bad as we do.

[mcvet]

Are people really applauding Barack or aren''''t you really applauding yourselves? Because that''''s been the Dem platform for like 3 years now. Everybody''''s just congratulating themselves on their superiority LOL

I think the Right looks at this type of statement and recognizes that the only reason the Dem position is able to exist is because the Republican position was something else.

Posted by SamTheTVCat at 04:48 PM : Jul 20, 2008

You know you constantly are snipping and picking at what American''s, you do REMEMEBER them don''t you?? Well American''s who DO NOT agree with the Party and the Fuhrer are Always wrong. DO YOU ever ONCE indicate why we were lied into the war, why our economy is on the rocks, why we have a record debt, why our justice department was made into an Arm of the "Party".... NONE of this is address... you just snipe at your neighbors because they will snap to and shout SIEG HEIL!!

[antoniof123]

Posted by OneAmerican- at 05:07 PM : Jul 20, 2008

I predict that it will be a blood bath in November for the Republicans. Wing nuts like you are destroying the Republican party. The swing voters are not impressed with your retoritic.

Neo cons do your self and the Republican party a favor leave now while you have nothing. Soon you will be an cancer on the GOP.

[trglazier]

Isn''t it funny how after the Whitehouse blundered and put out the story from Germany in the first place, that Maliki comes out and says the story is inaccurate - it was "mistranslated". It isn''t hard to tell who pulling Maliki''s strings now is it???

[bfjones666]

Why would Der Spiegel lie? Aren''t they the media outlet of the government that Bush has been in cahoots with for some time and even giving the female prime minister a back rub? I think they had the article right and the quotes right. After all, al-Maliki stated 3 times that ther should be a time table for troop withdrawals. Was he misquoted or wrongly interpreted that many times?

[nssherlock1]

Al-Maliki made the mistake of ''thinking'' he was the prime minister of Iraq. I''m sure that he got a call from Rice after the interview story came out. She told him you are part of a puppet-government that the U.S. setup, you have no power, you have no opinion unless WE tell you otherwise. lol

[oneamerican-]

I predict that after wrecklessly skipping through the political landmine of the Middle East, Barak Obama will return to the U.S. without a leg to stand on.

I also predict that liberals, as always, will ignore that fact, but it will be apparent to all that Obama''s stature will be greatly diminished.

[samthetvcat]

pt 1

---"Obama says pull the troops out of Iraq in 16 months. Now Bush is going to pull some troops out yea Obama. Obama says talk to Iran and bush has said never, now Bush wants to talk to Iran. Yea Obama Obama says Afghanistan is where we should have put are attention in the first place. Now Bush is going to send more troops to Afghanistan. yea Obama"---
Posted by starleo14672

Are people really applauding Barack or aren''t you really applauding yourselves? Because that''s been the Dem platform for like 3 years now. Everybody''s just congratulating themselves on their superiority LOL

I think the Right looks at this type of statement and recognizes that the only reason the Dem position is able to exist is because the Republican position was something else.

[samthetvcat]

pt 2

A 16 month withdrawal has only gained more popularity because the surge in fact succeeded in tamping down violence. Barack was against the surge.

Shrub is a megalomaniacal loon who''s thirsting to initiate armageddon on Iran so Jesus will return to Israel, hence going to the table by comparison looks pretty good to equally megalomaniacal loony toons Ahmadinejad. Barack''s a wimp.

When Bush invaded Iraq, all the terrorists flocked to Iraq to go where the troops were and there was chaos; once order was restored, they fled back to Afghanistan. Barack thinks if he starts going after them in Afghanistan they''re just going to magically fall in love with him as much as he''s in love with himself, and they''re not going to go back to Iraq and set up base where there''s then going to be a power vacuum.

Barack''s just taking his talking points from all of us - so why don''t we change the talking point to getting out of Afghanistan. He won''t back away from escalating there now because he''s triangulating to win the election. But after he wins, he''ll stick his finger in the wind so we should tell him which way to go.