Comments on: Iraqi PM Supports Obama's Withdrawal Plan

Al-Maliki Approves Of Candidate's Timetable For Removing U.S. Troops From Iraq Within 16 Months

[eddynewhope]

9/11 showed that radical islam grows under tyranny no matter where it is and just because Saddam didn''''t have a hand in that awful day does not mean he didn''''t behave similar to the Taliban and OBL.

Posted by ProMacLaura at 01:18 PM

Whoa! Are you serious? "just because Saddam didn''t have a hand in that awful day..." Actually by definition, if he did not have a hand in it, he DID NOT have a hand in that day. Period. The real issue is that Bush/Cheney and their cronies told the American people that Saddam DID have a hand in that day even though they knew he didn''t and that is treason. Lastly, to suggest that you "wish all of this was happening under a democratic administration" to make your political point is horrendous. Besides, this would not be happening under any other administration other than Bush. Bush/Cheney created "all of this". No other leader other than Bush could have turned the goodwill shown to the US after 9/11 into the tragedy that the "war on terror" has become symbolized by the mistaken war in Iraq which had nothing to do with 9/11.

[jbaker314]

ProMacLaura - Actually, if you want to place blame, you need to go back to Eisenhower, who put Saddam in a 6-man hit squad to overthrow Iraqi leader Qassim in 1959, and Kennedy, who helped Saddam and the Baath party take power in 1963.

[promaclaura]

Shazam111, your latest post is true. Saddam was at one time supported by the U.S. So were supposed to add insult to injury by leaving him in place? If anyone is to blame, place it on the 1st Predident Bush who left Saddam in place after he invaded Kuwait. Saddam continued his reign of terror under a big prison called the no-fly zone (which cost us billions to maintain). So it was ok to surround Iraq with our men and women and let the cancer grow? How stupid is that? 9/11 showed that radical islam grows under tyranny no matter where it is and just because Saddam didn''t have a hand in that awful day does not mean he didn''t behave similar to the Taliban and OBL. I wish all of this was happening under a democratic administration because the Hate-Bush Blinders would be off and we could all fight this evil together.

[jbaker314]

Shazam111 - "If" he gassed the Kurds?!?

Over five thousand died and over ten thousand were disfigured and disabled as a result of the use of mustard gas and various nerve agents supplied NOT by the United States, but rather by France and Germany.

Please note that Germany used mustard gas during World War I.

I guess that some traits breed true.

[eddynewhope]

"Saddam may not have yelled Jihad, but I''d say his rule was anything but moderate or pro-american."

Posted by ProMacLaura at 12:27 PM

So, by that logic, anyone who is not "moderate" and "pro-american", we can invade, displace millions, and kill hundreds of thousands of civilians? I''m a patriotic American but it may be time for some self examination since that hardly seem like the actions of a "moderate" or even "pro-American" nation. I''m speaking about us, the United States if you were at all confused.

[Stratmaster7]

stratmaster2: China and North Korea are sickening as well. The difference is radical islam (jihad) whose stated goal is to destroy the infidels. When countries adopt the belief of radical islam and come gunning for us based on distorting a religion, they are on the short list as well. Saddam may not have yelled Jihad, but I''''''''''''''''d say his rule was anything but moderate or pro-american.




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Posted by ProMacLaura at 12:27 PM

(sigh) and finally, by your logic, you think we have the right to invade any country that doesn;t like us. Does this mean China, Iran, N. Korea (and now thanks to bush, russia) all have the right to invade us?

[Stratmaster7]

stratmaster2: China and North Korea are sickening as well. The difference is radical islam (jihad) whose stated goal is to destroy the infidels. When countries adopt the belief of radical islam and come gunning for us based on distorting a religion, they are on the short list as well. Saddam may not have yelled Jihad, but I''''''''d say his rule was anything but moderate or pro-american.




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Posted by ProMacLaura at 12:27 PM

by the way, I thought the latest reason given for Iraq was that we were liberating their people. If Iraq was a country of radical jihadists, why would we want to liberate them?

[Stratmaster7]

stratmaster2: China and North Korea are sickening as well. The difference is radical islam (jihad) whose stated goal is to destroy the infidels. When countries adopt the belief of radical islam and come gunning for us based on distorting a religion, they are on the short list as well. Saddam may not have yelled Jihad, but I''''d say his rule was anything but moderate or pro-american.




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Posted by ProMacLaura at 12:27 PM

Radical Islam is not tied to a country. This is no basis for a war with Iraq. we were fighting them in afghanistan, remember?

[Stratmaster7]

"Nextgenman: I, like all the rest of the world, believed Saddam had WMD before President Bush. The news was filled with Republicans, Democrats, and other World Leaders stating that Saddam had them. So this is not something that President Bush came up with on his own and even though we haven''''t found nukes, chemical weapons (which he used) are WMD."

Have you also seen the British documentation of a meeting with Bush where Bush talked about ways to provoke a war with Iraq?

[shazam111]

PROMACLAURA;with all due respect your views are conveniently to suit your perspective which is very similar to these two thugs in the white house to justify this criminal action in iraq, your view based on false hoods does not certaintly reflect the facts as the world know them after this horrible acts against humanity,which resulted in 1.2million iraqi lives lost according to realnews net work and thousands of american lives lost, and you sleep in your comfortable bed, you are fooling your self...let alone me .It got me thinking about your bring up, a person with no shame and insensitive towards the fellow human being is the hallmark of zionist doctrine ,and you would be the last person for me to define the most good americans who have become totally against this war and there goverment of thugs.The first time in the history of united states of america such goons were elected by people like you.As to sadam he was put by the CIA to be the dictator of the people of iraq....if he gassed the kurds that gas was supplied by the u.s.goverments when they were pals with iraq and incited sadam to attack the iranians and at the time of the gassing of the kurds u.s. goverment did not even say a word through out the iraq and iran war that went on for eight years.sadam became a bad guy all of sudden for the american goverment when he stupidly invaded kuwait what a fool he was to count on his vampire of a friend america who were supporting him and using him in war against iran.

[Stratmaster7]

The Iraqi PM adamantly claims he was misquoted on his comments so-called supporting Obama''''s plan.


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Posted by yankeerebel7

Yes, at the insistence of the Bush administration I am sure. What do you expect him to do? Facts are that bush tried to get him to agree to allow our troops to stay indeterminately months ago and he refused. He has said he wants us out as soon as possible. He forced Bush to capitulate and agree to (choke) "time horizons" and said Obama''s 16 months is the right time frame.

[Stratmaster7]

The evidence was there. Saddam killed the KURDS by the hundreds with WMD''''S. And I still maintain that they may still be buried in the sand. Saddam''''s own General''''s thought that they existed when we were in the beginning of the War against the Iraq Army. Wake up and quit hating Bush and the Republicans and do some research on all of these things. I am a registered Democrat but I doubt that I will vote for Obama. I am going to have to know a lot more that I do before I will say one way or the OTHER.



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Posted by hbevis at 12:20 PM

I see. Well, generally, you respond to acts of genocide when the acts occur, not 20 years later. We were lied into the war. Everybody (well, about 70% anyway) in America realizes that. bush is a criminal. He has prosecutors who try to hold an GOP accountable, or who won''t make up reasons to prosecute dems fired. He authorizes spying on American citizens. He authorizes torture putting our captured soldiers in danger for generations to come. I can go on and on. Take the blinders off.

[eddynewhope]

The evidence was there. Saddam killed the KURDS by the hundreds with WMD''S. And I still maintain that they may still be buried in the sand."

Posted by hbevis at 12:20 PM

hbevis - Your head is the only buried in the sand. Iraq didn''t have WMD as we now know that. The reason Saddam didn''t fess up was that he didn''t want Iran to know that he had no such weapons. Now Iran is the unchallenged power in the region thanks to the Bush/Cheney plan. And now, they and McCain are saber rattling about Iran! Incredible.

[promaclaura]

neoconRcrazy, you must not have read about the mass graves and reports from the Iraq people that Saddam killed 100''s of thousands of his own. Your arguement would hold water if Saddam hadn''t already killed far to many already.

Nextgenman: I, like all the rest of the world, believed Saddam had WMD before President Bush. The news was filled with Republicans, Democrats, and other World Leaders stating that Saddam had them. So this is not something that President Bush came up with on his own and even though we haven''t found nukes, chemical weapons (which he used) are WMD.

stratmaster2: China and North Korea are sickening as well. The difference is radical islam (jihad) whose stated goal is to destroy the infidels. When countries adopt the belief of radical islam and come gunning for us based on distorting a religion, they are on the short list as well. Saddam may not have yelled Jihad, but I''d say his rule was anything but moderate or pro-american.

[eddynewhope]

"People like you can b.i.t.c.h. until doomsday and nothing will change."

Posted by hbevis at 12:10 PM

Hahahaha - Blame it on Clinton. OK. Sounds like you''re the one b*tchen. "People like me..." What? Us majority of Americans that have had enough of the treasonous Bush years? Yeah - I proud to part of that crowd.

[hbevis]

formrusmcsgt

The evidence was there. Saddam killed the KURDS by the hundreds with WMD''S. And I still maintain that they may still be buried in the sand. Saddam''s own General''s thought that they existed when we were in the beginning of the War against the Iraq Army. Wake up and quit hating Bush and the Republicans and do some research on all of these things. I am a registered Democrat but I doubt that I will vote for Obama. I am going to have to know a lot more that I do before I will say one way or the OTHER.

[nearl4511]

Misquoted. BS!

Before this article came out, during negotiations forthe "permament" US involvemnt in IRaq, Maliki balked and WANTED timelines.

16 months 3 years whatever, it doesn''t matter the time period...add two and two and you still get 4.

[kollmuss]

neoconRcrazy quote:

%u201Cyou must the part of the Sieg Heil segemnt of the swedish population that cheered on hitl er. right?%u201D

Answer:

No, I am not. I am totally against it. Instead, I believe in freedom and democracy. It works pretty well (not perfect, but it works). Moreover, and at the same time, I am aware of the fact that these concepts are very much questioned and challenged (on September 11 in 2001, you could see it live on television).

By the way Adolph Hitler, let me write something he said once:

"The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness..."


Andreas Kollmuss
Sweden

[hbevis]

EddyNewHope at 11:52 AM : Jul 20, 2008

All of the things that you talk about was started way back when Bill Clinton was in the White House. I know that all of these things are not Clinton''s fault. However both parties are at fault. You are just so bitter that you lost your vote that all people like you can do is to run BUSH down.
People like you can b.i.t.c.h. until doomsday and nothing will change.

[jbaker314]

CBSNews.com - Don''t you think that it is time to retract your headline?

Al-Maliki issued a statement that he did NOT tell Der Spiegel that he supported Obama''s 16 month withdrawal proposal.

Apparently, Der Spiegel made up the quote for political reasons.

Of course, Obama is claiming Al-Maliki''s support, and CBSNews.com is continuing to report a fabrication as fact.

And YOU accuse the Whitehouse of lying?!?

Have you ever consided taking a long hard look in a mirror?