Comments on: Electrical Problems Plague U.S. Iraq Bases

Report: Inferior Work By Private Contractors Worse Than Pentagon Previously Acknowledged

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by legacyabq July 18, 2008 5:21 PM EDT
Theoretically, open bidding and competitive enterprise is supposed to get the best job for the best price. This is the ideology behind properly applied capitalism. But only lipservice is paid to this traditional sensibility. The conservatives on sites like this are totally blind, and believe in the fairy tale of fair, just, free-market capitalism. Such things simply don''t exist in this situation. These are insider, no-bid contracts. There is no competition. Do you understand this at all, 1_American or whatever your name is? These companies, Halliburton, and Kellog Brown and Root, (a subsidiary) were specifically created to profit from the military. War is in their financial interest. It is the PURPOSE of their company''s existence. They owe the American people at least a decent job done. This is just one tiny example of the massive ripoffs promulgated by private contractors to the US Military all over the world. It is one reason why the war costs trillions of dollars. Are you able to comprehend how much money that really is? Do you have any idea at all?
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by drinuk July 18, 2008 5:10 PM EDT
Haliburton, connecting the negative to a positive, whilst the earth grounds all the juice into their off-shore accounts. They are well lit up, the rest of us are completely in the bloody dark.

Cheney, you''re going to get yours you Dummy !
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by trillion1 July 18, 2008 5:09 PM EDT
And it only cost us hundreds of billions of dollars.
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by stn_sage July 18, 2008 5:08 PM EDT
"This is a sure sign of success in Iraq when CBS has to resort to the mundane and miniscule problems of electical workmanship."
~ Posted by OneAmerican
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My response:

1. You are one of the biggest examples of the southern part of a northern bound jackass, my friend!

2. You say the electrical shock problem is ''mundane and minuscule''? On site interviews indicate electrical shocks occur almost daily! Thirteen people have been electrocuted, fool! And you think it''s minor?! You''re an idiot!

3. CBS has been doing KBR, the Army, and the Bush administration a huge favor to NOT report this until now! Because it''s just more in a series of bad news that acts as a rationale for antagonists who demand that we pull out!

4. I look forward to the day when you actually state something that is truth and correct! But, like Bush your distinguished in the fact that you''re always incorrect! Which, for guys like you is better than nothing from your own point of view!
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by oneamerican- July 18, 2008 4:58 PM EDT
http://www.mnf-iraq.com/

Screw the far-left liberals.

Get the REAL news about the success and progress in Iraq.
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by oneamerican- July 18, 2008 4:53 PM EDT
Posted by IT_Oldtimer at 01:43 PM : Jul 18, 2008

You liar. You have not been there. If you had, you would have seen that no American forces have retreated to their bases - as a matter of fact, American forces can currently walk the streets with minimal risk of attack.

You would have also seen that rather than insurgents and terrorist getting smarter, they are getting deader or they are getting out of Iraq.

Don''t try to bull me, liberal.

You are losing your War on American, and you know it.
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by it_oldtimer July 18, 2008 4:48 PM EDT
http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/
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by it_oldtimer July 18, 2008 4:43 PM EDT
"This is a sure sign of success in Iraq when CBS has to resort to the mundane and miniscule problems of electical workmanship."

~ Posted by OneAmerican

Success? Don''t make me laugh. Have YOU been there? I have. This is what I saw happening:

1) The US pulled all it''s troops back INTO the safety of their bases and then heavily fortified them. That reduced the number of daily casualties being reported, and that''s all it''s accomplished.

2) The Iraqi insurgents and militias have gotten much smarter, over time. They know that Bush is on his way out, and they wisely decided to simply wait quietly for a while (rearming and resupplying and training new recruits all the while). If the Americans leave, as anticipated, then they need only wait them out. If the Americans foolishly decide to try to stay, then the Americans will find themselves facing a MUCH more effectively organized, better equipped and trained force of insurgents and militias. At that point they''ll resume their campaign with a vengeance, and the streets will run red with American blood.

It''s really a no-brainer for the insurgents and militias. The "surge" was a joke, not a genuine deciding factor in the eventual outcome, which remains unchanged.

I think that OneAmerican''s conservative bias blinds him to the obvious truths of the real situation over there. The realities have not escaped Bush or the military planners though - that''s why they pulled the troops back in to their bases.
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by closethippy1 July 18, 2008 4:42 PM EDT
What the hell is going on here? Contractors kill innocent Iraqis as if they were flies, they keep doing all these worthless jobs, steal money, embezzle money, rip-off their own government (and therefore their own people), and all without a freaking care in the world even if they put our troops in danger!
These folks are as shameless and incompetent as the President who sent them there.
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by July 18, 2008 4:34 PM EDT
LMAO. It is rather pathetic when LIBS like zoe2006 and j_whitman have to use a non-story like this to say Iraq is a failure.
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by notblue July 18, 2008 4:28 PM EDT
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by lemonskink July 18, 2008 4:16 PM EDT
KBR, a subsidiary of Halliburton are nothing but terrorist murderers then, right? Cheney is still profiting from them, ya know. That was his deal. No-bid electrocutions. Another reason for criminal negligent charges to be filed against these evil-doers.
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by it_oldtimer July 18, 2008 4:15 PM EDT
KBR = Haliburton = Cheney

KBR might be "awarded" $100,000 on a no-bid contract, then they simply subcontract the actual work out to some poor, illiterate, unqualified foreign laborers and pay them a mere $150 to do the actual work. Then KBR pockets the remaining $99,850 (passing a hefty "cut" of the profits on up the corporate line).

These wars are nothing more than a money-making machine for politically-connected insiders. There is no real oversight or accountability at all. None.

EVERYTHING having to do with the military is "contracted out" these days. Not a single bullet or can of beans arrives in Iraq or Afghanistan without coming from a "contractor" somewhere.

Jobs that the military used to do themselves (like feed troops, transport fuel or build bases) is now done solely by contractors -- at 10-to-100 times the (former) cost to taxpayers.

Is it any wonder that this war has cost the US nearly $3 TRILLION dollars so far? SOMEBODY is getting obscenely rich off this current system, that''s for sure.
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by oneamerican- July 18, 2008 4:15 PM EDT
This is a sure sign of success in Iraq when CBS has to resort to the mundane and miniscule problems of electical workmanship.

And nary a story about how life is rapidly progressing to a secure and prosperous society that was never seen during Saddam''s dictatorial rule - where ordinary citizens take an active part in turning in terrorists and their weapons to the Iraqi authorities.

And the last brigade of the surge is returning home successfully accomplishing what it set out to do - bringing security, stability, and political compromise between ethnic groups, and wealth from oil profits to the 18 provinces of Iraq.

Tsk, tsk, CBS - your liberal bias stinks.
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by oneamerican- July 18, 2008 4:14 PM EDT
This is a sure sign of success in Iraq when CBS has to resort to the mundane and miniscule problems of electical workmanship.

And nary a story about how life is rapidly progressing to a secure and prosperous society that was never seen during Saddam''s dictatorial rule - where ordinary citizens take an active part in turning in terrorists and their weapons to the Iraqi authorities.

And the last brigade of the surge is returning home successfully accomplishing what it set out to do - bringing security, stability, and political compromise between ethnic groups, and wealth from oil profits to the 18 provinces of Iraq.

Tsk, tsk, CBS - your liberal bias stinks.
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by bushmccain4 July 18, 2008 4:14 PM EDT
and the no bid contract goes to...... kbr, and the reason why? can you say d i c k chaney
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by fstop100 July 18, 2008 4:05 PM EDT
F.U.B.A.R.
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by newsjunky5 July 18, 2008 4:03 PM EDT
Is the Root in KBR the same guy Root that shot and pushed someone out of his private plane? That was a weird incident.
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by newsjunky5 July 18, 2008 4:03 PM EDT
Is the Root in KBR the same guy Root that shot and pushed someone out of his private plane? That was a weird incident.
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by newsjunky5 July 18, 2008 4:03 PM EDT
Is the Root in KBR the same guy Root that shot and pushed someone out of his private plane? That was a weird incident.
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