Comments on: Iraq: No Withdrawal Timetable, No Deal

Dates For U.S. Forces To Leave Necessary Before Security Accord Can Be Inked, Official Says

[singingrick]

Ha ha!

[nearl4511]

John McCain can want to stay for a millenium. It isn''t going to happen without support of the Iraqi Govt installed.....unless they are forcefully replaced by some other puppet regime.

I have seen a few commercials from the McCain campaign. They don''t seem to tout this 100 years plan or any specific US ecomomic development for that matter. Just tries to play up his service record basically. Unless a campaign addresses teh economy and the war, I don''t understand the strategy.

[nanc12]

Rowdy, when you put 5 posts on the board that you get from another website, you could at least credit that site, instead of trying to make people think you wrote it. Or do you not think people will lend much credence to ''facts'' you get from the ''Pagan Power'' blog?

[incog-nito]

That''''s the story. No real reflection on any candidate in the Pres. race. Hey, I wonder when Bob Barr would like us out.

Posted by Nearl4511 at 11:57 PM : Jul 08, 2008

Au contraire. McCain is in lockstep with Bush about staying in Iraq indefinitely. There is a difference.

[mh4cbs1]

Republicns love terrorists!

After all they are good for business, good for politics, good for War. Good for scaring up votes from those Americans who are too stupid to realize the grand scam.

Why else would Bush let Osama go free. Why else would he have invaded Iraq based on LIES, taking troops out of Afghanistan, fueling terrorist recruitment and anti-American sentiment around the globe...

[nearl4511]

Rendell has not learned anything from Obama. He had his own bag of tricks when Obama was a wee child.

I know, I lived in Philadephia throughout is Mayorships there.

By the way, I don''t get how this article relates to Obama in any way. The Iraqis say they want us the heck out of there in 3 years (longer than I would like but whatever). Bushies are not happy if it is less than "guaranteed" oil production protected by US military until 2015.

That''s the story. No real reflection on any candidate in the Pres. race. Hey, I wonder when Bob Barr would like us out.

[mh4cbs1]

Say What?!?!

What the corporate media plays as the great taboo, the 3rd rail of the Iraq War, "timetables". Woe unto any politician who says they want "timetables"...

Now we hear that IRAQ WANTS A TIMETABLE TO GET US TROOPS OUT!

Of course Bush/Cheney want huge permanent US Bases in Iraq to protect their newly stolen Oil. Obama, as typical spineless Democrat backpedals and hems and haws about it.

Now there is no excuse. END THIS WAR.

A war based on deliberate LIES. A war that has left hundreds of thousands shot dead or blown to bits. Including a huge percentage of women and children.

Time to GET OUT of Iraq, JAIL Cheney and Bush for their War Crimes.

[danstoned]

Never forget that Republicons want to control our everyday morality. The Republicons history of same gender pedophilia sure makes them the perfect choice as the unappointed control freaks to oversee our daily moral behavior. Terry Schiavo will continue to haunt the Republicon Party for the foreseeable future.

[incog-nito]

One thing I noticed Republicans are particularly good at: endless cut-and-paste repetition intended to crowd out other comments. Critical thinking is obviously not their strong suit.

[hungry1968]

With news coming from Nouri al-Maliki that he is leaning towards a security pact with the U.S. that would include language describing the "departure of [American] forces or a memorandum of understanding to put a timetable on their withdrawal," one wonders how this would affect John McCain''s plan for perpetual troop presence in Iraq. Well, at the Council of Foreign Relations, the John McCain of 2004 gave us a pretty clear answer:

Question: "What would or should we do if, in the post-June 30th period, a so-called sovereign Iraqi government asks us to leave, even if we are unhappy about the security situation there?"

McCain''s Answer: "Well, if that scenario evolves than I think it''s obvious that we would have to leave because -- if it was an elected government of Iraq, and we''ve been asked to leave other places in the world. If it were an extremist government then I think we would have other challenges, but I don''t see how we could stay when our whole emphasis and policy has been based on turning the Iraqi government over to the Iraqi people."

[danstoned]

Republicon Cult members will pay dearly in November for the economic mess that is now taking US into a dark hole not experienced by most of our lifetimes. John McCains only solution for the US economy is to flip flop from his original opposition to tax cuts for the rich, to now supporting such an inequity. May I suggest anyone here log onto johnmccain.com and try to figure exactly what this corporate sell out McCains plan is to fix the US economy. All I can figure is that he wants to start another cold war with Russia and China. Since McCain has sold his soul to the US Military Industrial Welfare Complex, I am presuming that a new cold war is how McInsane wants to reinvigorate the US economy.

[rowdywicca]

And finally Rendell reaches out to PUMAs. But in doing so he decides to belittle us in the process. A skill learned from Obama no doubt.

So, we are asking all PUMA members to curb your disappointment, mute your anger and frustration and join HOUND to help change America. While the PUMA may be more swift and athletic, the HOUND is smarter and more perceptive.

Well, screw that. A PUMA can kill a dog any day of the week. So word to the wise Eddie. Be on the look out for a cat you can%u2019t control. A cat lurking in your backyard. And soon to be knocking on your front door.

Just Say No Deal!

OBAMA! YOMOMMA!!!!! PUMA!

[rowdywicca]

Lets see%u2026 he doesn%u2019t support the 4th Amendment, has issues with the 1st Amendment and is confused by the 2nd Amendment. But you want us to believe that he has finally come around to supporting Universal Health care? How about a few sources of substantiating fact?

And just to demonstrate to us that Hound isn%u2019t our enemy he states something completely ridiculous.

One last point %u2013 HOUND is not anti-PUMA. We agree with many of your grievances. For example, we, too, believe that the Democratic Party%u2019s nominating process is unfair and undemocratic.

Uh%u2026 excuse me. You want us to believe that Obama believes the nominating process is unfair and undemocratic? ROFLMAO. You got to be kidding. Right? I mean your position is absurd. But that is what drinking the Cult-Aide does to someone. They are able at a moment%u2019s notice to say the most ridiculous things with a straight face. And they expect the rest of us to believe it.

[rowdywicca]

So don%u2019t try to unload that cart of donkeyshit on us.

Of course a little revisionist history is required for the partakers of Cult-Aide. This next line just leaves me in uncontrolled hysterics.

Close your eyes and think about Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton standing together united at a ceremony for the bill signing of legislation that guarantees every American affordable, effective healthcare.

Earth to Eddie boy Rendell: During the campaign that you supposedly worked harder for Hillary than anyone else do you happen to recall that she stated over and over that Obama did NOT support Universal Health care? Are we now suddenly to believe that he supports it? Where is the briefing paper on that one?

[rowdywicca]

And like all politicians or supporters that want to over exaggerate their importance Rendell makes the statement we hear from so many quarters.

No one worked harder than I did for Hillary and I believe no one could admire her and what she represents more that I do.

What gets me is that no one ever calls people like Rendell on their arrogant egos. After all, not everyone can work harder or admire her more. So somebody has to be lying. I think I will group Eddie in that liars group.

And in a coup de grbce Rendell makes PUMAs out to be the enemies of freedom. As if we would be the ones responsible for placing an inexperienced, unqualified candidate in the White House. Don%u2019t you get it Eddie? The reason we are united against Obama is because we don%u2019t want to place an inexperienced, unqualified candidate in the most powerful position on earth. That%u2019s your guy Eddie.

[rowdywicca]

He who sleeps with dogs%u2026.
I used to like Ed Rendell. He seemed like the straight up kind of guy that you could count on to tell it like it is. But no more. Seems Eddie boy has been sippin on the Cult-Aide. And now he wants all of us PUMAs to recognize the error of our ways and join him and the HOUNDs in defeating John McCain.

He starts with a ridiculous premise. And it goes downhill from there. But here, have a look.

HOUND%u2019S CREDO

We believe Sen. Clinton supporters should vote for Sen. Obama because, as Hillary herself said so forcefully and poignantly in her great speech a few Saturdays ago, the best way to achieve the changes she has fought so hard to bring to America, and on which she based her campaign, is to support Sen. Obama, whose policies are almost identical to hers.

Well Ed, if that were true then none of us would have supported Hillary to begin with. I mean come on, does it even make sense to say that the best way to achieve the changes Hillary championed is to vote for someone that didn%u2019t champion those issues? Does it even enter that apparently tiny little mind of yours to consider that we supported and still support Hillary BECAUSE Obama does not champion the issues we feel so strongly about?

[rowdywicca]

Then who''''s going to pay your damned wages?


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Posted by RowdyWicca at 11:21 PM : Jul 08, 2008

You people just hate the republicans...but you forget who pays your wages...and without your wages...you''ve got zip except about $600 the government will give you in benefits...which is what I think Obama''s aim is.

[danstoned]

US taxpayer votes in the Republicon Party to waste $1 TRILLION attacking Iraq so that we all can now pay over $4 per gallon for gas. This same $1 TRILLION could have instead been spent to rebuild every public school in the USA, rebuild every highway and bridge in the USA, fund universal health care for all Americans, and fund several Manhattan Projects for alternative energy. It is no wonder why the entire world is laughing at US!

[rowdywicca]

Want to bet?? American''''s are Tired of having their jobs shipped over seas and they intend to vote in the Man who has said he WILL do something about it. NO American Worker should EVER have to compete with 30 Cents a Day in Wages as McSame want''''s them too. IT''''s TIME we stopped this and started thinking about AMERICAN Workers for a change. THAT is the ONLY way we''''ll ever see the Standard of Living going UP in this nation. Obama 08


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Posted by MCVet at 11:02 PM : Jul 08, 2008

LMAO! Thirty cents and a tootsie roll will get you another Obama lie!

And if Obama wins and the tax breaks are gone...money will flow out of this country like wine out of a bottle at a bum''s party!

Then who''s going to pay your damned wages?

[rowdywicca]

Obama''s thuggish behavior is no surprise. A who%u2019s who of 60%u2019s radicals supports Obama, the same people who destroyed the democratic party back then when they turned to revolutionary violence. Not only Bernardine Dohrn and Bill Ayres but also Mark Rudd, Tom Hayden, Michael Klonsky, Carl Davidson and several other alumni of SDS (Students for a Democratic Society) are on board. Now Obama%u2019s younger supporters get to feel like they%u2019re part of a politics of instant transformation and personal liberation. They will be deeply disillusioned whether or not Obama wins or loses. Shame! Shame on the hopey hopey change wagon!