Comments on: Iraq: No Withdrawal Timetable, No Deal

Dates For U.S. Forces To Leave Necessary Before Security Accord Can Be Inked, Official Says

[patriot12436]

I agree with a time table as long as we don''t have to stay more than 6 months. Personally i don''t care if they have democracy or not, as soon as we leave it will all collapse anyway. Time for the American govt to start doing their job and representing the American people with the problems we have.

[toldyouso12]

ncidentally, the majority like 75% of Iraqis actually do want troops to stay and fight al Qaeda and pay for reconstruction. So like, maybe even if WE want to leave, morally maybe they feel like we''''re obligated to see development through even if we withdraw substantially (?)

Posted by SamTheTVCat at 02:05 AM : Jul 09, 2008


Sorry, that is untrue. Since our invasion, the majority who want us gone and do not want our help in any way--has stayed at or near 80% of all Iraqis. Most Iraqis claim our presence has made things worse and most blame us for the disintegration of any social structure in that country. The only high numbers that want us to stay are collaborators--and it is in their best interest to want us there--because when we go, so does their power, prestige and money plus they may all be killed for being our flunkies.

[toldyouso12]

I''''m not for the war but can understand why it is taking us so long to get out of there. Why is it you idiots think it''''s as easy as just leaving? If not done correctly, i.e. Iraq cannot protect itself, we will just have to go back and fix it again.

Posted by LUVUSA at 08:45 AM : Jul 08, 2008


Yep, if we keep "fixing things" like we did Iraq, we can destroy the entire world in record time. LOL

[toldyouso12]

Last Post of the Nite: We are not welcome in Iraq.

Posted by BajaJohn1 at 01:36 AM : Jul 09, 2008


What country welcomes invaders who bombed, tortured and imprisoned their countrymen in a war based on lies? Who in the world would welcome Bullies? We never were "welcomed" now our collaborating puppets have to admit that too. LOL

[stn_sage]

most impeachable president in the history of the United States.

Posted by sparks224 at 12:59 AM : Jul 09, 2008
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Well, it is either because they are too lazy, or there isn''t anything to impeach him for. ...
Maybe he isn''''t THAT impeachable.
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Posted by erasmus81 at 02:45 AM : Jul 09, 2008
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My response: I''d make the following points:
1. There is many things to impeach him on!
2. To a degree, laziness on the part of Congress is a problem! Consider. They''re receiving big salaries and "benefits" legal or otherwise. Why ''rock the boat''!?
3. Most probably, those in position to authorize it, like Pelosi, are being blackmailed. And they don''t want the public to find something out about themselves. So, nothing gets done. But, on this measure they are like Bush, setting their own wants ahead of the needs of the nation! And they''re just as contemptible as far as I''m concerned!

[erasmus81]

most impeachable president in the history of the United States.

Posted by sparks224 at 12:59 AM : Jul 09, 2008


Why isn''''t someone doing it then? Posted by AJMarine111 at 01:59 AM : Jul 09, 2008

Well, it is either because they are too lazy, or there isn''t anything to impeach him for.

They went after Clinton because he used a cigar on Monica, but for Bush who is supposed to be the worst President in history, they do nothing?

Maybe he isn''t THAT impeachable.

[undermyboot]

This important story is being buried by the Mainstream corporate Media. It is already off the top ten- replaced by "TV Neilsen ratings" and Hollywood stories.

The Iraq government wants a timetable- McBush doesn''t. Of course this story is being buried!

[samthetvcat]

PPS That use of the word ''timetable'' . . . those Iraqis play hardball, don''t they - like didn''t Al Maliki with that reference just sort of remind GWB that Iraqis too have power at the bargaining table, and that with his word he can make provide help to Dems or he can provide help to Repubs (by saying that security was good like they did last week).

The poll also pointed out how most Iraqis think compared to the differences between us and them, the differences between Dems and Repubs aren''t that discernible . . .

[rjso]

"They can''''t even set up a puppet government correctly."

ROTFLMAO! Thanks, man, I needed that.

[samthetvcat]

PS Oops, here''s the links to the survey results:

http://www.uniraq.org/documents/Poll_Iraq_five_years_later_March2008.pdf

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/14_03_08iraqpollmarch2008.pdf

[samthetvcat]

I can''t tell what''s the true picture over there - the only snapshot we seem to get of what Iraqis are really feeling comes from that semi-annual ABC/BBC poll of Iraqis. And the last one they did in March showed some contradictory results, like that 6/10 Shiites and 7/10 Kurds say things are going well, it''s only 33% for Sunnis. 6/10 Shiites and Kurds have hope for their children while only 12% of Sunnis do. And Al-Maliki''s approval ratings are ''sharply split by sectarian group''.

And yet something like 75% of Iraqis want troops out once security has been restored, which would look to be about now. Which makes me suspect that if Bush and Company and probably even Barack want to stay, a the GOPigs must still think nation-building might succeed (which is why Barack feels the need to pander to this group) (?) I just wonder whether the culture gap still persists whereby life as usual for Iraq is exactly as it''s always been, crappy medical treatment and corruption and all?

Incidentally, the majority like 75% of Iraqis actually do want troops to stay and fight al Qaeda and pay for reconstruction. So like, maybe even if WE want to leave, morally maybe they feel like we''re obligated to see development through even if we withdraw substantially (?)

[ajmarine111]

most impeachable president in the history of the United States.

Posted by sparks224 at 12:59 AM : Jul 09, 2008



Why isn''t someone doing it then?

[stn_sage]

Well, there you have it!

al-Sadr says he wants a timetable for U.S. forces to withdraw!

al-Maliki says he wants a timetable for U.S. forces to withdraw!

Congress says it wants a timetable for U.S. forces to withdraw!

The majority of the American public says it wants a timetable for U.S. forces to withdraw!

So, to state the obvious, let''''s load up the wagons, and get the h3ll out-of-Dodge!

The only thing stopping this progress from being achieved is the idiot-in-chief and John McCain who both want to keep us there to supply supporters with no-bid contracts and to maintain tentative control over Iraqi oilfields!

In sum, the vast majority is held captive by the vast minority! NO matter how many are killed, or how badly the economies of multiple nations are affected by it in the years to come! I''''d call this abuse of power!

[incog-nito]

sparks224: Good old Ronnie. Trickle-down, supply-side economics. Deregulation. Union-busting. Oh I remember alright.

[sparks224]

"...And we all know who is all for lax oversight."
Posted by incog-nito

Ronald Reagan taught us that government regulations are bad. Don''t you remember?

[sparks224]

George W Bush
The worst and most impeachable president in the history of the United States.

[incog-nito]

patriot12436: The problem may be the oil speculators. But it''s also the lax to nonexistent oversight of the commodities market that contributed to the problem. And we all know who is all for lax oversight.

[patriot12436]

hungry1968
I disagree with you about gas prices. I think the oil speculators are causing this problem. I also think anyone holding political office should not be allowed o have diverse interests in other companies that would effect how they make their decisions.

[sparks224]

The Iraqis are kicking the Neo-Cons out. They can''t even set up a puppet government correctly. They spent all our blood and money for nothing.

At least the war on the middle class is going well.

[patriot12436]

rharrin1
I think being a pow makes one learn the true appreciatyion of life since every minute you do not know if it is your last. McCain served his country honorably. I respect him for that.