Comments on: U.S. Military Mulls Iraq Troop Pullbacks

Chiefs To Discuss Possible Cuts For This Fall; Troops Likely To Be Redeployed to Afghanistan

[feelfree4u]

Re: "notblue; why, because you say so?"

Posted by jn122736


It looks like your credibility is being called into question here, "notblue"...

[jn122736]

Clestes, less than one percent of provinces originally controlled by the Taliban are now under their control so as usual your completely wrong again.
Posted by notblue at 05:24 PM : Jul 07, 2008
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notblue; why, because you say so?

[feelfree4u]

Re: "STOP LOSS and IRR are code words for backdoor draft."

Posted by Riptide213


Good point.

I would actually like to see an actual draft reinstated. If it were, then I predict that our shameful and self-defeating "wars" would be over in a month or two, due to lack of interest.

[feelfree4u]

Re: "Get new troops trained for the Afghan theatre."

Posted by BajaJohn1


Where do you reckon those will come from?

[pensacola88]

Troop pullback announcements are just meadia feeders for wishful readers.

It is very cruel to announce something is going to be considered without a diplomatic entitity publically declaring stability.

[notblue]

Clestes, less than one percent of provinces originally controlled by the Taliban are now under their control so as usual your completely wrong again.

[whiskyrocker]

Head east young man and prosper

[riptide213]

Impact on STOP LOSS, none!

During a so called town hall meeting, Adm. Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff make clear to soldiers at Fort Stewart, Ga., things would get worse before they would get better. Number of troops held under STOP LOSS policies currently over 12,000. When respectfully confronted on how long Army STOP LOSS policies would continue the answer was. We see a slight growth in the next couple of years based on predictions right now; it could drag on beyond three years.

STOP LOSS, In Lieu of Taskings (ILO), 8 year minimum service obligations for advertised 2,3,4,6, enlistment options, Individual Ready Reserve (IRR) call ups, Army recruiting 17-41 years olds, and felony waivers all contribute to hazy smoke screen sham, a US government shanghai subterfuge to maintain war fighting troop numbers.

Why do citizens allow government manipulation to legally abuse loopholes to press gang those already serving in a supposed All Volunteer Force to serve at perpetual pleasure of Commander in Chief?

Why does American public allow President as Commander in Chief backed by Congress to shamefully get away with a read the fine print, covert war conscription, and unofficial backdoor draft by stealth?

Sign up to serve your country, do your fair share, and get indentured to serve in overseas wars indefinitely until wounded or death which ever comes first.

STOP LOSS and IRR are code words for backdoor draft.

[clestes-2009]

Gee things are going so well in Iraq that we are sending an additional 30,000 troops this fall and any troops whose time is up in Iraq are going to Afghanistan.

I predicted this 9 months ago when the reps were braying about "the surge is working". Working so well we are sending in more troops??

90% of the land given up by the Taliban has been retaken. US forces in Afghanistan are in serious trouble. This is where the real war on terror is being fought. Not in Iraq. Iraq was only a distraction that descended to a disaster. Saddam never had WMD, played no part in 9-11 and kept Iran at bay. Since being invaded, for their oil, Al-queda has regained strength and Iran is now a middle east player.

And Israel wants to make matters worse by attacking their non-existant nuclear weapon program. I really don''t think Israel will attack. There are a few political figures that have a death wish, but they are not in the majority and don''t have the power to attack. I''ll make another prediction. If they do oil will immediately zoom to $200 a barrel and gas will go to over $5.00 a gallon.

If Iran retaliates by closing the Straits of Hormez, oil will go to $300 a barrel and over $7.00 a gallon. But all this talk of war is bluster and pysch warfare.

Sigh.....

[ajaxtheleast]

The surge did NOT do it! It helped.

It was the change in strategy from
base-located troops to total occupation
of Iraq.

The proof of this will be when, say,
50-thousand troops ARE pulled from
Iraq and violence doesn''t increase
that much.

Bush at the time before the surge
couldn''t say that I''m going to totally
occupy Iraq. Which is what he did.
Which isn''t that hard when you head an
army that can kill anything that moves
on land, sea and air.

It was then that the "surge" was
invented.

So we''d concentrate on "The surge"
instead of our movement into the
cities knocking down doors and
killing ten civilians to get
one "terrorist.


Only when 50-thousand troops ARE
withdrawn can it be proved that
this was or was not just one more
sneaky move by the jerk.

You know where my money is.