Comments on: U.S. Forces Launch Airstrikes In Iraq

First Time Coalition Forces Have Been Directly Involved In New Battle For Basra

[hungry1968]

whether they don''''t have a large enough majority or there is the veto pen, they can still make a STATEMENT by starting the impeachment process. Why don''''t they??????? ASk yourself that and try to come up with a LOGICAL reason. Is it because there are NO grounds for it? NO evidence?

Posted by notblue at 05:21 PM : Mar 28, 2008





And if they did start the impeachment process, which is clearly lacking the number of votes required to impeach, then you''d be crying about the Democrats in congress wasting time trying to impeach, even though they know it''s not going to hold up.

Please - we''ve seen your little head game way too much. You''re as transparent as saran wrap.

[notblue]

lovegetpeace ifthe mexicans were Taliban and another country came to help irradicate them I would not turn on the liberators. 12 million Iraqis voted for the first itme in over three decades because of Americas efforts, now according to you sdince the bad guys have entered Iraq to cause this new democracy to fail we should leave and abandon the effort. Good plan. NOT!

[arlt1627]

hopefully notblue left to go study a little Middle Eastern history....we''ll see.

[roger_inkart]

So...when the fighting began in Basra, al-Maliki gave the Shi''ite militia 72 hours to surrender their arms.

Well, that expired without very many people capitulating. Now to REALLY show them he''s extended it to 10 days. And the kicker? They''re now BUYING the weapons!

Wow. That''ll show ''em.

[lovegetpeace]

hey newsjunky5,
If president Bush asked you to jump off a 50 floors building, would you jump in a heartbeat?

[lovegetpeace]

Hey newsjunky5,
Do you mean to tell me that if I start loving Bush, all of our problems go away overnight?

Israel-Palestine was under the control of the Roman Empire, then the Ottoman Empire and finally the British empire. There was a ''Zionist Proclamation'' on 1911 that started everything. However, it was not until May 15, 1948 when America signed into this Religious Decision that it finally happened for the Zionists.

I do not blame the Jews or Israel. I used to live with a traditional Jew for 2 years. I do blame the Zionists in Israel and America. The majority of the people of Israel want the peace plan I have aforementioned. The Zionists in Israel are like the outgoing NeoCons in America-a very small minority in full control of the government.

[lovegetpeace]

Hey notblue,
Either you were born on 9/11 or you have a short memory which does not surprise me. Our mess in the Middle East started on May 15,1948.

If Mexico takes over Texas by force, would you hate Mexicans forever? Would you teach your children to hate Mexicans. Would you join the Al-Qaeda organization in a heartbeat to help you bomb up Mexicans?

[newsjunky5]

"We created RADICAL ISLAM on May 15, 1948 when we advocated the creation of the State of Israel right in the heart of the middle-east."
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Not buying it completely. The fall of the Ottoman Empire, and dividing the spoils after WWI had alot to do with it, too, and British imperialism before that. You could, if it pleases you, blame Queen Victoria for 9/11. No one will resort to mindless fits if you do, like happens when you detract from Bush.

[arlt1627]

practice grounds......you''re also naive

Terrorism has always existed in this world and always will. Terror is simply using the threat of force to achieve political, religious or social goals. We have technically done this in the past? What would you consider the use of A-bombs and development of nukes during the arms race?

You never did answer my question. Who trained Bin Laden and the Mujahadeen terrorist tactics and originally helped finance and arm them?

[notblue]

whether they don''t have a large enough majority or there is the veto pen, they can still make a STATEMENT by starting the impeachment process. Why don''t they??????? ASk yourself that and try to come up with a LOGICAL reason. Is it because there are NO grounds for it? NO evidence?

[arlt1627]

Posted by notblue at 05:13 PM : Mar 28, 2008

You''re about the most ridiculous person of all-time. I''m not liberal by any stretch. I supported Bush in Afghanistan. I''m a fiscal conservative (which Bush claimed he was). I think he''s probably an okay person. However, I completely disagree with what he has done to manipulate our foreign policy and that''s why I''m on here. You also know diddly about the process called the veto!! Sure there''s a majority (of 2 in the senate). But you need 2/3 votes to override the veto. That means that you have to get 16 republicans and ALL democrats to override the veto. Can''t happen and everyone knows it. That''s why Bush can continue the war in Iraq.

[lovegetpeace]

Hey notblue,
You blame the majority party in Congress. Remove the Filibuster and Veto powers from the US Constitution and America will go to heaven.

My mother used to say to me "if you give your enemies the fight they want-you lose. If you do not give your ememies the fight they want-you win"

[notblue]

artl, didn''t the radicals have practice grounds in afghanistan and pakistan also? Do they move their practice grounds when they are driven out of the last? your point does not hold water as these savages have been practicing and planning and carrying out attacks long before we invaded Iraq.

[notblue]

artl, every day you libs spew the same he lied blah, blah, blah, the chimp foole the best minds the Democratic party has in order to convice them to go to war???? The Democrats are the majority in both houses yet ther are no impeachment proceedings after COUNTLESS investigations. Even if they didn''t have enough votes to impeach thay have the majority andcould start the proceedings for history and America yet they don''t. Isn''t that strange to you? Why don''t they even start? Could it be this crapp about the alleged lies is nothing more than PARTISAN politics designed to satisfy the screaming child left in this country? Wake up! If the DEMS had ANYTHING the process would have started. Besides you people call for impeachment evey single day, wjhat puropose would it solve? Would it put a smile on Osama''s face? You bet! how woulgthat help the fight against the radicals? Would it embolden them? You bet!

[lovegetpeace]

Folks,
Correction to my last entry: ...will NOT be driven...

[lovegetpeace]

Hey notblue,
Thanks for asking. 1st, force Israel without conditions to get the boundaries of Israel to exactly the same before the 6 days war of 1966. 2nd, explicitly force Israel to remove all settlements in Gaza and the West Bank. 3rd, force Israel without conditions to let East Jerusalem be the capital of Palestine. 4th, force Israel without conditions to allow Palestinians to control 100% their water, electricity, commerce, banking, highways, etc. Finally, let the Palestinians have their own Statehood.

After all this, these so called Moslem extremists whom are the grand children of 1948 like Osama Bin Ladin will be driven by patriotic ideologies. All Arab nations have signed publicly to this ''peace plan''. I do not believe that eliminating the State of Israel is Prudent today.

[arlt1627]

artl, please explain why you believe the miltants that adhere to the ideology called radical Islam only preside in "certain countries" in the middle east? And please explain that after Osama himself calls Iraq the front inthis war we should not fight there. You people claim everyday that Al Qaeda was not there prior to the U.S. invasion yet they are there NOW as you state because of the invasion so how is it logical knowing this stated fact that we should leave? Remember you want to fight them in Afghanistan why not other places they preside NOW as in Iraq?
Posted by notblue


Oh, if we wanted to do that we might even bankrupt China in the process! That means invasions of Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Somalia, Sudan, Nigeria, Egypt, Israel, Syria, Armenia, Indonesia, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, and more to name a few! Can''t be done so no reason to try. We need to address the WHY do they want to attack us?

[roger_inkart]

That''s what you people do everyday, you rail against Bush and America while NOTHING is said in regards to condemning the TRUE cause of ALL unrest in the world today, namely RADICAL ISLAM!

Posted by notblue at 04:51 PM : Mar 28, 2008

Here''s some food for thought: I am a centerleft liberal. I hate the Taliban. I totally supported the Afghanistan invasion. In fact, I support attacking threats to the US where they can be found.

That said, the problem is that Iraq wasn''t a threat until we made it one. I can''t be convinced that this war is anything but counterproductive to the goals and security of the US. Demanding that I support it means demanding I support something that harms my nation. Do you understand that?

Simply because my nation launches a war does not mean I should be expected to support it, any more then I should be be expected to support anything that harms my county. I will oppose it for the same reason you believe you need to support it. Naturally, I happen to believe you are very, very wrong.

[arlt1627]

artl, please explain why you believe the miltants that adhere to the ideology called radical Islam only preside in "certain countries" in the middle east? And please explain that after Osama himself calls Iraq the front inthis war we should not fight there. You people claim everyday that Al Qaeda was not there prior to the U.S. invasion yet they are there NOW as you state because of the invasion so how is it logical knowing this stated fact that we should leave? Remember you want to fight them in Afghanistan why not other places they preside NOW as in Iraq?
Posted by notblue


I''ll gladly explain this. We''ve provided a "practice" ground to prepare, plan, and carry out coordinated attacks on the US and Iraqis.

Do you know who originally trained Bin Laden and the Mujahadeen by the way? A little historical trivia for ya!

[newsjunky5]

Radical Islam is not attractive unless you can provide a boogeyman for the masses to rally against. We''ve provided the boogeyman. Not to say that 9/11 was justified. Killing civilians never is. The Danish cartoons are being used as a boogeyman by Islamic leaders too. Should they pull the cartoons? NO! Are those rioting because of the cartoons wrong? YES! But that doesn''t mean you can dismiss these as motivations. Torture the enemy, and when word gets around, they gain followers. Angry? Join the Marines.