Comments on: Iraq Deaths Up, U.S. Deaths Down In Feb.

American Troop Fatalities Decline Last Month, But Civilian Toll Higher Compared To January

[iceman_1960]

"In a Feb. 26, 2008, debate in Cleveland, Sen. Hillary Clinton attacked Sen. Barack Obama"s record on opposing the war in Iraq, saying that once the invasion ended, he didn"t oppose the policy as strongly as he did in 2002.

"By 2004, he was saying that he basically agreed with the way George Bush was conducting the war," she said.

In the debate with Clinton, he made the same point a little more succinctly: "Once we had driven the bus into the ditch, there were only so many ways we could get out."

Clinton"s statement wrongly gives the impression that Obama was endorsing the Bush administration"s overall policy in Iraq. We find her statement to be Half True."

Source: Same as previously posted.

[ajmarine1]

Posted by Iceman_1960 at 02:51 PM : Mar 01, 2008


Hi Ice, sorry, this is all I keep, maybe you can back track on it.

I gotta go; have a good day.


Fact Check : Sen. Obama%u2019s Iraq War Record
1/9/2008 2:50:08 PM

This morning, Sen. Barack Obama claimed that President Clinton "made several misleading statements about my record" on Iraq. Actually, everything President Clinton said was true:
It is wrong that Senator Obama got to go through 15 debates trumpeting his superior judgment and how he has been against the war every year, enumerating the years, and never got asked one time -- not once -- well, how could you say that when you said in 2004 you didn''t know how you would have voted on the resolution, you said in 2004 there was no difference between you and George Bush on the war, and you took that speech you''re now running on off your Web site in 2004, and there is no difference in your voting record and Hillary''s ever since

[iceman_1960]

"Obama"s Iraq remark taken out of context"

"The 2004 remark comes from an interview Obama gave the Chicago Tribune on the eve of the 2004 Democratic convention to nominate John Kerry for president. The invasion had long since ended. Troops there were attempting to stop insurgent attacks and prevent kidnappings in the face of concerns from the American public that the situation in Iraq was starting to deteriorate.

"On Iraq, on paper, there"s not as much difference, I think, between the Bush administration and a Kerry administration as there would have been a year ago," Obama said. "There"s not much of a difference between my position and George Bush"s position at this stage.

How do you stabilize a country that is made up of three different religious and in some cases ethnic groups with a minimal loss of life and minimum burden to the taxpayers?" Obama said later in the interview.

Taking the interview in its entirety, it"s clear Obama was speaking about the need to bring a satisfactory conclusion to the Iraq invasion once it had commenced, not diminishing his initial opposition to the war."

Source:

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/378/

[iceman_1960]

RE: Post by AJMarine1 at 02:46 PM : Mar 01, 2008

Could you please post a URL for that surprising quote ?

I want to make sure it isn"t being taken out of context.

Thanks.

[iceman_1960]

John McCain is planning a "Great Society" program if and when he"s elected.

It will be far costlier than LBJ"s.

McCain"s "Great Society" will be for Iraqis only. Not Americans.

Someday McCain will get around to telling us how he plans to pay for his "Great Society." ((At age 69 he claimed he "still needed to be educated" about economics.)

[ajmarine1]

In 2004, Sen. Obama also said there was little difference between his position and George Bush%u2019s position on Iraq:
In a meeting with Chicago Tribune reporters at the Democratic National Convention, Obama said, %u201COn Iraq, on paper, there''s not as much difference, I think, between the Bush administration and a Kerry administration as there would have been a year ago. [%u2026] There''s not much of a difference between my position and George Bush''s position at this stage.%u201D [Chicago Tribune, 07/27/04]

[ajmarine1]

In 2004, Sen. Obama said he didn%u2019t know how he would have voted on the Iraq War resolution.
%u2018When asked about Senators Kerry and Edwards'' votes on the Iraq war, Obama said, "I''m not privy to Senate intelligence reports,%u2019 Mr. Obama said. %u2018What would I have done? I don''t know. What I know is that from my vantage point the case was not made.%u2019

[j-whitman]

This is a measure of "Progress" ??? ---- Since the invasion of Iraq, only two months have had a lighter U.S. death tolls than February,

[rowdytexan2]

ONLY 29? Let''s talk when it''s 0! And when our troops can come home!