Comments on: Turkish Troops Enter Northern Iraq

Hundreds Of Troops Cross Border For Overnight Operation; Secretary Rice Makes Surprise Visit

[iceman_1960]

RE: "Thanks to America Iraqis now have a chance "to make their country to their liking."

Thanks to intervention by Big Government in Washington, you mean.

Yeah, Iraqis were helpless until those U.S. troops showed up and said, "We"re from the Government and we"re here to help you."

BIG WASHINGTON GOVERNMENT is not the answer to every problem in every society on the face of the earth.

That is the ultimate Welfare State mentality.

The Armed Forces oof America exist primarily to defend the people and the Constitution of the United States.

Not to impose welfare on the rest of the world.

[iceman_1960]

"Thanks to America Iraqis now have a chance "to make their country to their liking." Sadam would not have allowed it, Al Qaeda would not have allowed it."

You mean Saddam, don"t you ? It"s not a difficult name to spell correctly.

If the Iraqis didn"t like Saddam they should have overthrown him. As far as I know they didn"t even try. Maybe they liked the modernization of the Iraqi medical and educational systems he provided.

[iceman_1960]

"To the south in Kirkuk, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice made an unannounced visit to the city that Iraq"s Kurds call their Jerusalem, an oil-rich territory claimed by many."

I thought everything was ok over there now. I thought it was safer there than in Washington D.C.

U.S. leaders still feel the need to sneek around and drop in unannounced.

Is that what Truman did after VE-Day ? Go to Europe in unannounced, surprise visits ?

[notblue]

prissypatrio, here are some truths you people purposely ignore.
1)Thanks to America Iraqis now have a chance "to make their country to their liking." Sadam would not have allowed it, Al Qaeda would not have allowed it.
2)It''s not all about "stuff" only a truly shallow simplistic mind would believe such tripe.
3)The true thugs who have caused chaos throughout the m world and greater middle east are the radical Islamists, Americans should place blame where it belongs.
4)Liberals are more worried about "losing" this global conflict because of there pascifist politics and their hatred for the president, the irony of this stance is that it puts the constitution at even greater "risk."

[PrissyPatriot]

As a Guard reserve military family gearing up for yet another "tour" I say BRING THEM HOME NOW.
Allow Iraqis to remake their country to their liking.

When the all truths are known about this war, there will be no doubt in even the most shallow minds that it was never about liberty or freedom. It was for "stuff" and gaining more power for already powerful people. They should hang for what they have done, although I can agree to them serving lifeterm in prison. They will thank "liberals" for the Constitution and Bill of Rights then...

Only if Americans demand it will any of these thugs in suits be held accountable for the horrors they have unleashed upon the world. Support Our Troops, Demand Accountability for the lies told to them!

[nothappyatall]

"Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice made an surprise visit"

Oh WOW, what a SURPRISE... NOT!

[hungry1968]

In Baghdad, some Shiite residents in the predominantly Sunni neighborhood of Dora said U.S.-backed security volunteers were trying to drive them out of their neighborhoods. The volunteers, also known as awakening councils, are groups of Iraqi Sunnis that the U.S. military has backed to help fight al Qaeda in Iraq and its allies. But Maj. Gen. Joseph Fil, commander in Baghdad, disputed the Shiite claims, saying "we''re seeing very, very little of that."



Ahh - so if you don''t SEE IT, then it must not be happening. RIIIGGGHHHTTT. Now I got it.

[antoniof123]

I just don''t get the neo con party they have lied and continue to lie now Turkey has entered the fray soon another county then another until the place burst into flames.

Neo cons you may have won a battle but I can assure you that when the war is over you will not be in power for years to come.

The storm is growing each day yet you refuse to see it when it comes you will know that we warned you.

[mrmazerati]

Is it next November yet?

[brianbwb-2009]

Here''s a good one, Bush just said he sees "storm clouds over the US economy".

Better call it a "hurricane warning".

"Mission accomplished"...

[brianbwb-2009]

Rice: "Hello Kirkuk, I''m just here to tell you that we gave the Turks permission, and all the intel they need to finish the genocide against you that we had Saddam start.

No hard feelings, OK? We agreed to let them do this when they let us use their bases for invading this place.

And to answer the question you all want to ask, Bush doesn''t eat Rice, because Rice eats Bush.

[mcvet]

If we, in fact, were exercising any real control in Iraq, as the neocons would like one to believe, our officials wouldn''''t still be sneaking around making unannounced visits......


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Posted by formrusmcsgt at 06:38 AM : Dec 18, 2007
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LOL Excellent point. They didn''t even have to do that in Nam so I''d say this is YET ANOTHER LIE of the Bush Administration. The fact is that these three distinctly different factions in that nation are not and will not get along, peacefully. They are going to have to have a real good fight and when that''s over MAYBE they settle down and form a Government.

[formrusmcsgt]

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice made an unannounced visit Tuesday to the city that Iraq''s Kurds call their Jerusalem....

If we, in fact, were exercising any real control in Iraq, as the neocons would like one to believe, our officials wouldn''t still be sneaking around making unannounced visits......

[neoconrcrazy]

ICRC calls for immediate resumption of family visits for Gaza residents to Israeli prisons ;

Jerusalem (ICRC) - The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) urges the Israeli authorities to authorise the prompt resumption of visits for families from Gaza with their relatives detained in Israeli prisons.


The visits have been suspended since 6 June 2007, following a decision by the Israeli authorities.

"It is impossible to understand that such a decision is taken solely on security grounds. Family visits to Israeli prisons have been organised for decades. There is no reason for this six-month suspension of family visits for Gaza residents," says Christoph Harnisch, the ICRC''''s Head of Delegation in Tel Aviv.

According to international humanitarian law, detainees have the right to maintain family links, including visits from close relatives.

The ICRC recently distributed warm clothing to the concerned detainees.

With the exception of one prison, Palestinians are detained in prisons located inside Israel. An average of 20,000 family members travel monthly to prisons inside Israel.

In November, the ICRC conducted 32 visits to 15 Israeli places of detention, including interrogation centres, provisional detention centres, police stations and prisons. There are currently over 11,000 Palestinians detained in Israeli prisons.

www.icrc.org

[neoconrcrazy]

Homes in illegal Israeli settlements for sale at London expo


Haroon Siddique
Friday November 16, 2007
Guardian Unlimited


Israeli companies are using UK property shows to sell housing in illegal Jewish settlements in the occupied West Bank, Guardian Unlimited can reveal.
At the Israel Property Exhibition at Brent town hall, North London last Sunday, one company, Anglo-Saxon Real Estate, was offering for sale properties in Maale Adumim and Maccabim. Both West Bank settlements lie on the Palestinian side of the so-called green line, the pre-1967 boundary and often cited as the border between Israel and a future Palestinian state.

www.guardian.co.uk

[ontheleft]

One thing about conservatives is that they can''t stand the truth. They can never admit the truth when the truth is not on their side. For years they denied there was global warming. Now that the glaciers are rapidly melting, they are arguing that the causes have nothing to do with CO2 emissions. They will deny deny deny the truth at all costs when they don''t like the truth.

Which brings me to the failure of Iraq. Conservatives are in denial that the war was unjustified. There were no "weapons of mass destruction" that posed an "imminent threat" to us. Conservatives then argue that, absent the original justification, the war now is justified by some other reason (insert reason here). They just can''t face the truth.

We have no reason to be there right now. What are we waiting for? We have this "lull" and "reduction of violence" but the Iraqi government is no closer to reconciliation today than they were before the "surge". How long are we going to let this war drag out? The U.S. government created an Iraqi government that is a failure. A long endless war with conservatives denying the truth every step of the way.

The final truth is that we live in a democracy where 70% of the population want us to reduce our commitment to Iraq and begin withdrawing troops immediately. Over 50% want us out of there altogether. You can deny the truth for so long, but it will eventually catch up with you.