Comments on: August Is 2nd Deadliest Month For Iraqis

Recent Suicide Attacks Cause Civilian Deaths To Rise Slightly Since July; Over 1,800 Killed

[pastdue1]

"If implemented, Sadr''s order holds the prospect of allowing coalition and Iraqi security forces to intensify their focus on al Qaeda-Iraq and on protecting the Iraqi population," the U.S. military said in a statement Saturday.

I''m still terribly confused about the coalition security forces that the military talks about. Can anyone clarify WHO and HOW MANY they are? Or is this just a propaganda catch word?

[ubrew12]

radiob said: "You are partially correct we created the power vacumm in Iraq and therefore bear some "moral" responsibiltys to the Iraqis."
The movie ''No End in Sight'', now in theaters, is a blow-by-blow accounting of how that power vacuum was created in 2003-2004. It''s very matter-of-fact, which makes the arrogance displayed by the coalition provisional authority all the more criminal in its conduct. I would guess 2000 of the American soldiers who''ve died so far owe their deaths to the CPA, which single-handedly extended the focus of the war from disenfranchising Saddam Hussein to disenfranchising one-third of the Iraqi population. Must-see viewing.

[radiob-2009]

During the past decade we have witnessed dramatic changes in the nature of the terrorist threat. In the 1990s, right-wing extremism overtook left-wing terrorism as the most dangerous domestic terrorist threat to the country.


You are partially correct we created the power vacumm in Iraq and therefore bear some "moral" responsibiltys to the Iraqis. I know this thought does not sit well with many of the anti-war crowd which I am one of but it is the truth.The Iraqis also have a "moral" repsonsiblity to their fellow Iraqis, the concept of a "democracy" is lost upon a great deal of the Iraqis not understanding that in order to have a "democracy" one must have some unity.

[dissidentman]

The Iraqi people have an opportunity to grasp freedom from the claws of the radical jihadsadists. Yeah I know...I know... Bush is the real radical and he is to blame for all the worlds woes. But the truth is that the insurjents have no problem blowing up Muslim women & children so the world press can spin it to blame Bush and the U.S. military. Isn''t it strange how the "free" thinkers of the world will not condem the jihadsadists for murdering the the humanity of Iraq?

[ubrew12]

formrusmcsgt said: "Religion is all about a "warm fuzzy". " Even if there is no God, the butteryfly effect guarantees that our actions have consequences for the universe, and the further out the timeline you travel, the greater those consequences are. That''s some kind of immortality, for sure. That''s why morality ''matters''. I don''t accept (as a general rule, not as a religious absolute) that forcing people to respect freedom and democracy at the point of a gun teaches them anything but the value of guns. And that lesson reverberates through history the further out you go. So, God or no, ''doing the right thing'' matters.

[j-whitman]

Hey Bush you lying SOB --- How much progress in security ???????

[drummer94]

mcsgt" I like the "warm fuzzy" feeling. I, personally, experienced some nasty shiit that left me reeling. The comfort came, I don''t know how, but it came. And yeah, it felt warm and fuzzy. I was out of tears, so there just HAD to be more. If that is some kind of religion, so be it.

[lars008-2009]

it is fascist nazi terrorislam stupid%u2026.

non muslims of the world unite... fight against the tyranny of the fascist nazi terrorslam imperialist empire of the darkside...

I was a fanatic...I know their thinking, says former radical Islamist
By blaming the Government for our actions, those who pushed this "Blair''s bombs" line did our propaganda work for us.
More important, they also helped to draw away any critical examination from the real engine of our violence: Islamic theology.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=465570&in_page_id=1770
Bless the Beasts and Children
Fascist nazi terrorslam kills every man woman and child in the village again%u2026 typical mo for terrorslam%u2026
http://www.michaelyon-online.com/wp/bless-the-beasts-and-children.htm

Our Prophet commanded us to fight the kaafirs when we are able and to attack them in their homelands and to give them three choices before we enter their lands: either they become Muslim and be like us, sharing our rights and duties; or they pay the jizyah (poll tax) and feel themselves subdued; or they fight, in which case their wealth, women, children and homes become permissible as booty for the Muslims.
http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=13759&ln=eng&txt=before%20islam%20arabia%20pagan

the truth about fascist nazi terrorislam...
http://www.terrorismawareness.org/what-really-happened/

[formrusmcsgt]

I garner a small dose of serenity just by thinking that life, as cruel as it can be sometimes, will get better, someway somehow. And what is wrong with that?
Posted by drummer94 at 09:51 AM : Sep 01, 2007

Religion is all about a "warm fuzzy".

[formrusmcsgt]

Dubya will find a way to use this data as evidence of "progress" once it''s taken through the spin process......

[mcvet]

If those maniac murderous jihadists would understand that they are worshipping the devil, not God, then these types of things would not happen.

Jihadists are totally demon possessed.
Posted by singinrick at 06:43 AM : Sep 01, 2007

Ricky?? What ARE you babbling about here? The ISSUE is the competence of OUR leader not other people. You haven''t been Toe Tappin have you sparky? You sure sound like someone who has swallowed all that snake oil sold by the Toe Tappin Association, to keep you simple minded bigots in line. These people NEVER asked for all this death and did NOTHING to deserve it but you "Good Christian Conservatives" never EVER discuss that FACT.. YOU know the FACT that there were NO weapons nor ANY threat to justify this invasion and occupation. May you suffer greatly by your idols of clay Rick... Can you say "HYPOCRIT" Ricky? Sieg Heil and Amen.

[radiob-2009]

Nothing drummer and as much as some people doubt the existence of a "God" they cannot prove his non existence 100% no more than a believer can prove his existence 100%.I, like you try to stay away from a religious discussion on these boards. Seems the greater threat to the world is the twisting of "beliefs and the "religion" of ones politics than actual beleif in a "God". All going back to a quest for "power" over others. Our nation has become a nation of "political religious" fanatics. You are either a "democrat or a republican worshipper" drinking from either the "golden elephant or the golden donkey". Where are the statesmen?

[drummer94]

Ok hungry. I have learned not to question why good people in our lives die, and bad people keep on truckin. Da God I believe (not "follow") has a plan. This, to me, just can''t be random acts of nuttiness. This war. Other wars. People doing stuuuuupid things to other people. We sometimes forget our mortality. You, me, the people close and far away from us, hey! we''re gone. A coupla blips on lifes radar. I garner a small dose of serenity just by thinking that life, as cruel as it can be sometimes, will get better, someway somehow. And what is wrong with that?

[pastdue1]

On Sept. 15th, it would seem that besides Bush, Cheney, Davis, Petraeus and Pace that Congress should hear a direct report from some Iraqis ~ not only the puppet, Maliki, but at least one delegate from each faction, are we not strong enough to hear from a group that differs with us. After all, the Iraqis are also dying each month, they have been most affected by the war and the surge, they certainly have first hand knowledge. It would do some good to hear reports directly from the horse''s mouth in a controlled setting rather than what someone says they say or think. Besides, if they are, as Bush claims, a sovereign nation and a democracy, they certainly have the right to have some input.

[hungry1968]

hungry: no offense intended and I don''''t like debating religious issues on this forum, but are you SURE there is no God? I like to keep my options open, just in case. I think it makes me a better human to my fellow humans. Please don''''t get ricky goin, like lars, he never knows when to stop.
Posted by drummer94 at 08:31 AM : Sep 01, 2007



If there truly was an all knowing, all seeing, all powerful being that loved us, cared for us, and wanted us to prosper, would he let us go on like we have warring, killing, raping, and plundering?

I believe that there is no god. And if there is a god, he has to be a pretty bad entity to let the world go down it''s current path without intervening. Certainly not a "god" that I want to follow, no matter what flavor of religion you''re talking about. One flavor of religion is just as bad as the other guys flavor of religion.

[drummer94]

Send that suggestion to Patraeus radio. Good one. Don''t send it to George, he wouldn''t understand.

[radiob-2009]

Posted by drummer94

I have not really seen a "exit" strategy by anyone that factors in all of the variables. There are non violent, non military options to lessen the violence not being employed. These would have to come from the Iraqi "govenrment" and not from the US. The majority of "suicide attacks" require the usage of a "vehicle" which is dependent upon "gas" . Gas rationing ID cards that are assign to a owner and a vehicle along with Odometer readings along with actual "rationing" of gas should reduce some of the attacks.Border security has to be strengthen, every "vehicle or individual" coming into or leaving Iraq needs to be completely searched.I do not see any "quick" solutions.

[drummer94]

hungry: no offense intended and I don''t like debating religious issues on this forum, but are you SURE there is no God? I like to keep my options open, just in case. I think it makes me a better human to my fellow humans. Please don''t get ricky goin, like lars, he never knows when to stop.

[hungry1968]

If those maniac murderous jihadists would understand that they are worshipping the devil, not God, then these types of things would not happen.

Jihadists are totally demon possessed.
Posted by singinrick at 06:43 AM : Sep 01, 2007


You''re right as usual. Your flavor of religion is the right one and everyone else''s religion is wrong.

Who urged Bush to attack Iraq? God or the devil? It seems to me that if there really was a god, which there isn''t, he would have prevented the needless murder of 700,000 Iraqi''s and 3700 American troops. Unless of course your god likes death, war, and destruction. And looking back at Christians history, I think he really does like it. Why else would Pope Pius II join Hitler and Mussolini?

[drummer94]

radiob: Man, I just don''t see an out for us anymore. Do you? America has tired of this shiit, but when we leave, how do we redeem ourselves, and can we? Will the Iraqi''s thank us, or will they hate us even more? I think even if we do split, we will be hauled in to an even bigger struggle. Friggin'' loony-toon and his band of morons obviously did not think this through. I have a 20 year-old son who, when we do talk, thinks our "leader" is an idiot. Even he can''t see any good coming out of this. I''ll drive him to canuck-land myself before the draft comes.