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Pakistani President Proposes Multi-National, All Muslim Contingent, Removal Of "Outside Interference"

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by on_alert247 May 16, 2007 1:32 AM EDT
RandalDS said "The idea that Iraq will become an even bigger haven for terrorists if the US pulls out is a red herring. They Iraqi's are much more secularist then that and there is no reason to believe that they'll tolerate al-Qaeda to operate in their individual spheres of influence (after the country is properly divided into three separate pieces) then Saddam did."
Then how did Iraq become the haven it is now? Why are the Sunni and Shi'a butchering each other? Why do the Kurds want a separate state? How is it that Al-Qaeda with its extremist views can operate in such a 'secular' society?
Personally from this post and others you have made, I don't think you have a clue.
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by on_alert247 May 16, 2007 1:29 AM EDT
RandalDS "The idea that Iraq will become an even bigger haven for terrorists if the US pulls out is a red herring. They Iraqi's are much more secularist then that and there is no reason to believe that they'll tolerate al-Qaeda to operate in their individual spheres of influence (after the country is properly divided into three separate pieces) then Saddam did."
Then how did it become the haven it is now? How could Al-Qaeda operating in a vacuum? Why are the Sunni and Shi'a butchering each other? Why do the Kurds want a separate state? Personally, from this post and others you have made in the past, it is obvious you don't have a clue.
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by ajmarine1 May 16, 2007 1:26 AM EDT
Gaye5,

Nice postings.
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by gaye5 May 16, 2007 12:45 AM EDT
zootallures2, eheheheheheheh, you have to be joking, for goodness sake read your own holy books, the quran is full of slaughter, read what Mohammad did and here are just a few verses...

Qur%u2019an 8:12 %u201CI shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.%u201D
or...Qur%u2019an 8:67 %u201CIt is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughtered in the land.%u201D... or ...Ishaq:588 %u201CWhen the Apostle descends on your land none of your people will be left when he leaves.%u201D Ishaq:327 %u201CAllah said, %u2018A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.%u2019%u201D

Qur%u2019an 7:3 %u201CLittle do you remember My warning. How many towns have We destroyed as a raid by night?
Tabari VIII:116/Ishaq:511 %u201CSo Muhammad began seizing their herds and their property bit by bit. He conquered home by home.
Qur%u2019an 8:59 %u201CThe infidels should not think that they can get away from us. Prepare against them whatever arms and weaponry you can muster so that you may terrorize them. They are your enemy and Allah%u2019s enemy.%u201D
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by gaye5 May 15, 2007 10:12 PM EDT
lars008 I am reading the same sort of reports from soldiers, and whilst they hate being there and will be effected for the rest of their lives, they all say that we must stay there, mainly for our protection...
you said... Most service members fully support the war in Iraq and feel calls to retreat by Congress and attacks by our media on our conduct and mission act to motivate our enemy while demoralizing our support at home, directly increasing the threat we face and resulting in greater American casualties...
lars008 I totally agree with you and so do many others..
I have read that there was WMD and they were smuggled off to Iran, but our own media seems to want us to be in danger, why??? Why is it that in all wars our media does its best to demoralise our own??. Why do they report falsely???, Doesnt the media realise that once the enemy wins they will not have the freedom to report what they want, or are they being compromised with money. I feel reporters who falsely demoralise our forces should be charged with treason. In past wars we dont see the enemies media demoralising their people, in fact they do the opposite and it has worked, it gave them power to continue..
lar008, although we have the same sort of media lies here in Australia many of us think you guys are fantastic...get your information out via emails.. get people to pass them on so as the people can know the truth and thus bypassing the media..
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by gaye5 May 15, 2007 9:53 PM EDT
lars008 I am reading the same sort of reports from soldiers, and whilst they hate being there and will be effected for the rest of their lives, they all say that we must stay there, mainly for our protection...
you said... Most service members fully support the war in Iraq and feel calls to retreat by Congress and attacks by our media on our conduct and mission act to motivate our enemy while demoralizing our support at home, directly increasing the threat we face and resulting in greater American casualties...
lars008 I totally agree with you and so do many others..
I have read that there was WMD and they were smuggled off to Iran, but our own media seems to want us to be in danger, why??? Why is it that in all wars our media does its best to demoralise our own??. Why do they report falsely???, Doesnt the media realise that once the enemy wins they will not have the freedom to report what they want, or are they being compromised with money. I feel reporters who falsely demoralise our forces should be charged with treason. In past wars we dont see the enemies media demoralising their people, in fact they do the opposite and it has worked, it gave them power to continue..
lar008, although we have the same sort of media lies here in Australia many of us think you guys are fantastic...get your information out via emails.. get people to pass them on so as the people can know the truth and thus bypassing the media..
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by grazinggoat May 15, 2007 9:23 PM EDT
Many of the women and children were enslaved. Muhammad even took the most beautiful woman for himself and married her (Safiyah).
Posted by lars008

-Best proof this guy didn't hate Jewish Women, he married one!

-Seriously speaking slavery was the current money at those times: 1500 YEARS AGO! Whoever won the skirmish would others under slavery. What do you want them to do with the conquered people? who were left with no protection (Digital Satellite t.v.s in an air-conditioned family room were not available at that time, Neither Nintendo nor GameBoy).

Slavery was a good way of survival, because they (best was not) could be fed and protected by the same men and fighters then the ones who were protecting the tribe. Tents, camels, dogs... and individuals, everything was critical for survival in the desert.
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by ajmarine1 May 15, 2007 9:17 PM EDT
zootallures2,

"They are godless nazis and so are you and you krap hole of amerikkka."

Leave if you don't like it here.

"That's the US's favorite pastime next to raping children."

Anyone that breaks the law is put on trial; I don't see that happening with Muslims when they kidnap and cut of some ones head.

"You are twisting. If they murder they are not following the Quran and are NOT Muslim."

There must be alot of Non-Muslims and non-Quran readers in the Middle East.

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by gaye5 May 15, 2007 9:15 PM EDT
lars008 you are right, and America, Britain, and Australia have already had the invitation first, then the warning and if we dont submit then the slaughter...
But they often didn't even give choices, they just went on raids when it suited them.. killing all they came across because as they said, killing the infidel was a pleasure to them seeing the blood flow.
lars008, it is a shame that people dont read their history, especially as history keeps repeating itself, and maybe this is why... because people go straight back to sleep again after a war, they dont seem to realise that because of their stupidity their grandchildren will suffer the consequences..

We hear that the crusaders were terrible people and yes as sometimes happens in war, they did some terrible things, but if the Muslims had not marched across country after country slaughtering all who would not submit, the crusaders would never have come into existence. Just as we had armies to protect us against the Japanese and Hitler etc, the people formed a band or army to try and stop the slaughter of their loved ones going any further. For those who are against the crusaders trying to protect themselves, should we not have raised up an army to stop Hitler and the Japanese taking our countries also. Well according the critics of the crusaders that seems to be the thinking...
Why is there a group of people trying to make us believe that the crusaders were all bad.. they were simply defending their own as we should do now.
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by grazinggoat May 15, 2007 9:15 PM EDT
Many of the women and children were enslaved. Muhammad even took the most beautiful woman for himself and married her (Safiyah).
Posted by lars008

-Best proof this guy didn't hate Jewish Women, he married one!

-Seriously speaking slavery was the current money at those times: 1500 YEARS AGO! Whoever won the skirmish would others under slavery. What do you want them to do with the conquered people? who were left with no protection (Digital Satellite t.v.s in an air-conditioned family room were not available at that time, Neither Nintendo nor GameBoy).

Slavery was a good way of survival, because they (best was not) could be fed and protected by the same men and fighters then the ones who were protecting the tribe. Tents, camels, dogs... and individuals, everything was critical for survival in the desert.
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