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- This are theverses that are often quoted as meaning that all non Muslims must be converted to Islam.
191. And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.
190. Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors
It is open to interpetation. - Reply to this comment
- radiob and toolmangler get a room you boring pu$$ies...
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- nolalou - who gives a $h!t?? nuke those donkey faced monkeys, those depraved rapists. They are lower than human filth, their culture is corrupted beyond civil accpetability.
nola - after we nuje those tw@tworms off the planet, let's come over to your mammas house and watch her give your brother a *** you a$$licking creep - Reply to this comment
- There 'Is' no leadership per-se and that is the 'only' reason we are still in the mid-east, if Bin laden and his group achieve their goals and are able to fuse a cohesive force
Posted by ToolMangler at 03:19 PM : May 05, 2007
The primary reason US forces are in the Middle East is to maintain control, by force, of Middle Eastern oil & gas fields.
In other words, the greatest threat to western civilization is a Muslim community united against the US (or "west"), so our plan is to indiscriminately attack Muslims.
That seems to be very counterproductive since the usual result from attacking a disorganized group is to unite them.
Remember the events of 9/11/01 and how all Americans suddenly dropped their normal disagreements and united against "terrorists"? An effect still lingering today despite the fact "terrorists" pose no realistic threat to the vast majority of Americans.
It appears the Bush administration is conspiring with al qaida to help them accomplish their goals. - Reply to this comment
HiYa' radiob, So far so good. and yourself?
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Not bad, it is the weekend and I do not have babysit customers, brokers and employees.- Reply to this comment
- HiYa' radiob, So far so good. and yourself?
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- There is no "Muslim leadership."
Posted by tuckerndfw at 02:57 PM : May 05, 2007
That part of your statement is quite correct, There 'Is' no leadership per-se and that is the 'only' reason we are still in the mid-east, if Bin laden and his group achieve their goals and are able to fuse a cohesive force ut of the three factions fighting for control fo Iraq you will see a 'leadership' of immense proportions rise up and totally control 1.5 billion Muslims whether they like it or not. Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and others are sitting on most of the worlds oil. Do the math.. - Reply to this comment
- What would one call the Shiite vs Sunni war that is ongoing in Iraq? Is one sect trying to rule the other sect over their differences in religion? Or is it really all about power and the oil? What about Sudan and the Janjaweed and the massive murders that have occured there. The Janjaweed are supposedly working with Al Queda? The majority of all this killing is Muslim against Muslim. Over the last 6 + years over 230,000 people have died because of terrorism out of that figure 3000 were Americans, 200,000 were Sudanese, 20,000 were from Thailand and the remainding 7,000 were throughout the world.This is not including the attacks in Iraq.
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- ToolMangler How is life treating you?
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- "Forced conversions in Islamic history are not exceptional%u2014they have been the norm, across three continents%u2014Asia, Africa, and Europe%u2014for over 13 centuries. Orders for conversion were decreed under all the early Islamic dynasties%u2014Umayyads, Abbasids, Fatimids, and Mamluks. Additional extensive examples of forced conversion were recorded under both Seljuk and Ottoman Turkish rule (the latter until its collapse in the 20th century), the Shi%u2019ite Safavid and Qajar dynasties of Persia/Iran, and during the jihad ravages on the Indian subcontinent,"
Islam's long history of forced conversions
By Michelle Malkin
Remember, The Crusades were an attempt at forced conversion and were just as wrong then as Islam is now.. - Reply to this comment
- I reiterate, I was referring to the leadership. Please read my posts, It is written in their Quaran.
Posted by ToolMangler at 02:47 PM : May 05, 2007
There is no "Muslim leadership."
Islam is similar to Protestantism. It is not a monolithic religion and has no leader.
Claiming an imam speaks for all Muslims or is properly interpreting the quran demonstrates ignorance of Islam.
Based on your conclusions, that flaky Christian preacher in Kansas who, with his terrorist group, protests against homosexuals at funerals speaks for all Christians.
Did Jim Jones (Jonestown massacre) represent all Christians?
How about David Koresh (Waco tragedy)?
If not, why do you claim some irrelevant imam speaks for all Muslims?
The quran, like the bible, is subject to intepretation and you are not qualified to speak with authority on what it actually means to anyone other than yourself.
It appears you are promoting radical Christian propaganda rather than facts. - Reply to this comment
- I reiterate, I was referring to the leadership. Please read my posts, It is written in their Quaran.
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- 'We' can live with them but they can't live with us unless we convert to Islam.
Posted by ToolMangler at 11:12 AM : May 05, 2007
Your comment seems to make no sense.
There are millions of Muslims currently living with "us" in the US and elsewhere around the globe. And, I seemed to have missed the US conversion to Islam.
I lived in Saudi Arabia (as a civilian) for about a year and they seemed to generally ignore the tens of thousands of non-Muslims living in their community, including me.
No one attempted to convert me, or anyone I knew, to Islam, by force or otherwise. In regards to converting others, Muslims were far more restrained in their religious practices than most American Christians.
KSA had a dress code that required men and women to dress modestly in public. Which seemed to be in accord with what most fundamentalist Christians want imposed on everyone in the US.
But, my wife and daughter were not required to wear veils or otherwise cover themselves. And, were discouraged from doing so. Saudis actively protected women and anyone who molested a woman in public would receive an immediate beating by the men in the area. Or, so I was told since I never witnessed anyone mistreating anyone else.
It is unclear where you get your information, but it appears to be incorrect. - Reply to this comment
- At no time have I called the Muslim people bad names. I do speak what 'I' know as a truth. If I do not know it as a truth, I keep my mouth shut.
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- Posted by j-whitman at 12:23 PM : May 05, 2007
I was referring to the leadership. ot the people. Conversely most baptist aren't worried if you go to hell unless you are their kind of people. (this I know first hand) The leaders are the Mullahs and Clerics that purport to know "GODS" will. I don't need to put words in their mouth, they have already done that and tried to back out of it verbally by saying "You mis-interpreted the statements". B.S. I have many Islamic friends and listen when they speak. They know their leaders also. - Reply to this comment
- krotec54,,, OK, so they cover up... It is a bit odd, but what really bothers me is the fat chicks on the beach who won't cover up.
Posted by j-whitman at 12:26 PM : May 05, 2007
-This is a good one LMAOFFFFFFFFFFF
...guess he got hot and bothered and had to take a cold shower.
Posted by krotec54 at 12:22 PM : May 05, 2007
-Condi could have volunteered for a BJob... as she is used to do to keep her. - Reply to this comment
- IN 2 VISITS, NANCY HAS DONE MORE THAN CONDI'S WHOLE CAREER.
She is an idiot listening to GW and JUST trying to strike Photo Op poses. By the way, that one S U X Condi.
Posted by billysmith6 at 12:29 PM : May 05, 2007
-Great Posting billysmith6. - Reply to this comment
- tuckerndfw: I've never heard about the Baader-Meinhof thing. . . . Who should I keep my eye on?
Posted by cfin5 at 08:16 PM : May 04, 2007
Most Americans have never heard of the Baader-Meinhof "gang." The US media was primarily preoccupied with something we called the "Vietnam war" at the time.
The average American has no realistic chance of encountering a "terrorist." Statistically, the average American will die of a heart attack, be killed in an auto accident, or be killed by a poisonous reptile long before he will be killed by a "terrorist."
Despite the media fixation with "terrorists," they pose very little threat to the average American and are not worth worrying about, except by law enforcement.
Paranoia serves no one's interests, including the Bush administration, media inspired paranoia regarding "terrorists."
If you know someone who is actively planning an act of "terrorism" (blowing up something, killing people, whatever), you should report that to your local police agency.
Ignore all the hype about "terrorists" and concern yourself with things that are relevant to your daily life. "Terrorism" is not one of those things for 99.999999% of Americans. Unless they are actively involved in the law enforcement community. - Reply to this comment
- Seven pesos;
Just ignore them. They're all jealous! - Reply to this comment
- State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said Friday: "I don't know which woman he was afraid of, the woman in the red dress or the secretary of state."
This kind of statement is a prime example of why this Adminstration has failed at every feeble and incompetent attempt it has made at diplomacy. This is the kind of insulting thing one might think but -- if the person had any real desire for diplomacy and any common sense --would keep to oneself. Iranians and many other cultures have different beliefs and doctrines regarding women. This country's views have not been the same over time, but has evolved. Even today, we have no uniformly held view on the proper role of women vs. men. But even if someone believes that the U.S. has a more developed or proper view of women than the Iranians, you can pretty much bet that the way to NOT get any kind of political cooperation or good will is to publicly insult and belittle the other party's deeply held beliefs with these kinds of comments. It's just plain stupid. Once again, the Bush Administration proves that it's more interested in pretending to practice diplomacy than to really attempt it. We need to get these babbling fools (including Rice of course) out of positions where they can continue to wreck havoc on this country's future. Time is short. Impeach now. - Reply to this comment
