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Claims Female Violinist Was Dressed Too Revealingly; Also Blames U.S. For Iraq Turmoil
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- Ozilot Tucker made those comments.
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- US forces in Iraq are doing what they are ordered to do.They did not start this war and are not the enemy.Bush started this war.Did you protest against Vietnam vets and myself when we fought in Vietnam?
Posted by radiob at 06:35 PM : May 05, 2007
*ROFL*
What's next? Are you going to call me a traitor? Lib? ****?
In other words, you think everyone should see things from the American viewpoint. Which is precisely why the US is wasting its time in the Middle East. Or anywhere else if the intent is to promote a positive American image.
From the viewpoint of a patriotic Iraqi, US forces are their enemies. And anyone who collaborates with the enemy is a traitor, subject to summary execution.
And, I invite you to scroll back through the comments to read my previous comments about people who attack me for my viewpoints. Begin with the one I posted at 6:38 PM on May 4 (yesterday), concluding at the one posted at 6:54 (same day).
Currently on page 12, but it may be 13 or 14 by the time you scroll to it, if you choose to do so. - Reply to this comment
- ozilot
I am not comfortable with any nation that makes remarks like these and is possibly pursuing nuclear weapons.
One of its stated objectives is, quite explicitly, to destroy us. At a large %u201CWorld Without Zionism%u201D conference recently in Tehran President Ahmadinejad stated that %u201Ca world without Zionism and America . . . . surely can be achieved.%u201D President Ahmadinejad%u2019s expressed view is that it is his mission to help bring about, by mass killings, conditions for the return of the Mahdi and thereafter the end of the world. The chief of strategy for Ahmadinejad, Hassan Abbassi, has said: %u201CWe have a strategy drawn up for the destruction of Anglo-Saxon civilization . . . we must make use of everything we have at hand to strike at this front by means of our suicide operations or means of our missiles. There are 29 sensitive sites in the U.S. and the West. We have already spied on these sites and we know how we are going to attack them. . . . Once we have defeated the Anglo-Saxons the rest will run for cover.%u201D - Reply to this comment
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radio,,, My friend,, Arab's are Sunni's, Saddam was Sunni -- The majority of Iraq is Sheiite.. It still boils down to each fighting each other & themselves for control...
. UAE promised to stop sending insurgents to Iraq, but will never follow through... They still fund al Quida & the Taliban ---- Instead they will just keep showering Bush & the GOP with Golden Gifts.
Posted by j-whitman
Yes J there are many nations that are assisting the insurgents, terrorist and militias in Iraq. None of them are helping the Iraqi people in doing so.They are adding more wood to the fire that we started.There is no excuse for them or for us to have invaded. Nothing justifys the perpetual support of the ongoing war regardless of whom is supplying the support. - Reply to this comment
- radio,,, My friend,, Arab's are Sunni's, Saddam was Sunni -- The majority of Iraq is Sheiite.. It still boils down to each fighting each other & themselves for control...
. UAE promised to stop sending insurgents to Iraq, but will never follow through... They still fund al Quida & the Taliban ---- Instead they will just keep showering Bush & the GOP with Golden Gifts. - Reply to this comment
- You seem to ignore the fact that US soldiers are not the "good guys" in Iraq, they are the "enemy."
US forces in Iraq are doing what they are ordered to do.They did not start this war and are not the enemy.Bush started this war.Did you protest against Vietnam vets and myself when we fought in Vietnam? - Reply to this comment
- No that I would advocate that we ignore them...but on the other hand until we solve our dependency on third world fuel sources we will have to deal with them one way or the other, for good or bad!
Posted by ozilot
Same point that I have been trying to make. - Reply to this comment
- I had to simplify it so that Tucker could understand the point.
Posted by radiob at 06:23 PM : May 05, 2007
Given the fact you do not understand the situation, as evidenced by your remarks, you cannot explain it, much less simplify it. - Reply to this comment
- Condi rice is innefectual--a lame duck. Not to meet means there was no meeting--just a bunch of dancing and flirting. Not serious application of her job.
Other countries are laughing at, and crying for--us.
When I was a kid, they said that America was "a great experiment".
Experiments need careful intelligent observation and management to work--and Bush and his cronies suck in these departments.
So, unless we are willing to act in a timely manner (not two years from now)and change the experiment--down the tubes we go. - Reply to this comment
- ozilot -- You can also die horribly here in the good ol USA ---- Barack Obama now has Secret Service protection from death threats,, Hilliary now also has the same protection,,, A right wing Christian college republican has been arrested in Louisana today for it.
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- radiob
I think you are oversimplifying the issue of Iranian involvement in Iraq. True they are helping the insurgents attack our forces, but what is at stake is the creation of an Arab Shiite buffer state between Iran and the Arab states to its western and southern borders. Iranians really tend to be xenophobes.
I had to simplify it so that Tucker could understand the point.Yes Saudia Arabia and other nations are assisting the insurgents, terrorist and militias. Iraq when we leave will become a either a three nation state at perpetual war or else another dictator like Saddam will emerge.This is the mess we created. - Reply to this comment
- Posted by radiob at 06:18 PM : May 05, 2007
Iran is a sovereign nation.
It is their right and responsibility to arm themselves to whatever level they can afford.
The "international community" has no authority to tell sovereign nations how to equip their military or what kind of military armaments they are allowed.
Imposing economic sanctions on a nation is antagonizing that nation, regardless of reason. So long as the US continues antagonizing other nations, it is unlikely to get cooperation. - Reply to this comment
- ozilot -- Look at it another realistic way,, Neo-Cons failed to understand the people of Viet Nam & thier culture.
, One big reson for the failure of the War of Roses in Iraq from the very beggening was,, Neo-Cons failed to understand the people & thier culture..... Mistakes they keep making with the UAE, Syria & Iran as well..
. The UAE is not our friends & will turn on us in a heartbeat (listen to thier people & King), so will Egypt, Lybia & other countries. - Reply to this comment
- Radio,
The solution is ro remove US forces from Iraq. There is no solution in continuing to antagonize Iraq's neighbors by threatening military force and imposing economic santions.
The only way to "support the troops" is to demand they be withdrawn from Bush's fiasco.
Posted by tuckerndfw
Whoever said to continue the war in Iraq? The economic sanctions that you refer to are in regards to Iran over nuclear energy and their failure to comply with the IAEA. Perhaps some Middle Eastern nations and nations that have the same climate and temperature should research solar energy and the world could outlaw all nuclear development. The next point you are going to make I will make for you that Israel and the US should dismantle their nuclear weapons. Fine but get everybody on board every nation to dismantle. - Reply to this comment
- The Iranian forces that are helping the Iraqi "freedom fighters" as you call them are aiding the killing of not only our troops but Iraqis.The Iraqis need more friends like that right?
Posted by radiob at 06:11 PM : May 05, 2007
You seem to have a very distorted view of the situation.
US forces are a hostile occupation army. The US puppet Iraqi "government" was imposed on Iraqis at the point of a gun.
If a hostile foreign army invaded the US, imposed a government on us and my neighbors began collaborating with them, I would kill them.
Which is what any patriot would do.
You seem to ignore the fact that US soldiers are not the "good guys" in Iraq, they are the "enemy."
And any Iraqi who supports them is a traitor.
The only way to "support the troops" is to demand they be removed from Iraq. - Reply to this comment
- ozilot --
Captives ????? LOL -- That's what this GOP would have you believe,,, How many times have we heard them comdeming thier own CIA in favor of Isreal intel ?????
, In actualality, they support the country of thier home just as we do & they are very free to come & go as they choose,, many actually participate in thier government as do Christians. - Reply to this comment
- Radio,
The solution is ro remove US forces from Iraq. There is no solution in continuing to antagonize Iraq's neighbors by threatening military force and imposing economic santions.
The only way to "support the troops" is to demand they be withdrawn from Bush's fiasco. - Reply to this comment
- But, what is your point?
Iranians supporting Iraqis is far more justified than the US occupation of Iraq. And while it may pose a threat to Bush's arrogant claims of forcing a "western" government on Iraqis at gunpoint, does not threaten the US as a whole.
Posted by tuckerndfw
The Iranian forces that are helping the Iraqi "freedom fighters" as you call them are aiding the killing of not only our troops but Iraqis.The Iraqis need more friends like that right? - Reply to this comment
- They are good friends to the Iraqi people to.
Posted by radiob at 05:58 PM : May 05, 2007
Not only are Iranians "good friends" with the Iraqi people, many of them are close relatives. Many members of the US installed puppet government lived in Iran prior to the US led invasion.
But, what is your point?
Iranians supporting Iraqis is far more justified than the US occupation of Iraq. And while it may pose a threat to Bush's arrogant claims of forcing a "western" government on Iraqis at gunpoint, does not threaten the US as a whole. - Reply to this comment
- Posted by radiob at 05:49 PM : May 05, 2007
Since I do not support the unnecessary and illegal invasion of Iraq, I find no reason to consider Iraqi's resistance fighters to be "enemies" of the US.
Or, those who support them.
Posted by tuckerndfw
Lets see its bad enough that we are in this war (Iraq) under presumptous reasons. Our troops which did not decide to invade Iraq are under attack along with Iraqis who also did not want this war and it is okay to support those who are attacking our troops and the Iraqi people or those who are supporting the attacks? Add more fuel to the fire and it will extinguish correct? - Reply to this comment
