Comments on: Brit War Chief: We Underestimated Cheney

Says VP Had More Influence On Bush Than U.K. Thought; Despite Bad Planning, Defends Going To War

[crater7]

No surprise here, everyone knows that Cheney, has been making decisions for over 6 years. He tells Bush what he's going to do, and lets Bush think he actually made the decision. Leading to the Term " The Decider ".

[gkc99]

When you consider that Darth Chickenshit, famed Vietnam War draft dodger, is actually the guy giving the orders from his "undisclosed location" to Prez. Bonzo Bushit, it's not surprising that a lot of people underestimate his influence. However head Limey Lapdog Tony Bliar must take his share of the game for "going along."

Too bad none of these foreign policy geniuses thought to ask the "man on the street" how the typical person (yes, Iraqis are people) would react to a foreign occupying power. Even if the Chinese Army invaded to throw out Bushit and Chickenshit from the US government, most of us would soon tire of their presence, I'm sure.

[bluestardad]

It is not anti Semitic to believe there are millions of other good people in the Middle East with valid concerns! 50 years of bleeding, and buying support for Israel is enough! Play nice or America is leaving the Entire Middle East!

Even Eisenhower had problems with Israeli groups but he did not let them buy him!

READ AS THEY BRAG ABOUT THEIR INFLUENCE ON OUR GOVERNMENT!
http://www.aipac.org/forms/
join_aipacClubs.htm


Founded in 1953 by Isaiah L. "Si" Kenen, AIPAC's original name was the American Zionist Committee for Public Affairs. According to UCLA political science professor and author, Steven Spiegel, "the tension between the Eisenhower administration and Israeli supporters was so acute that there were rumors that the administration would investigate the American Zionist Council. Therefore, an independent lobbying committee was formed, which years later was renamed [AIPAC]." [SPIEGEL, p. 52].[citation needed] Today, AIPAC has over 100,000 members.[1]
Activities and stated goals AIPAC's stated purpose is to lobby the Congress of the United States on issues and legislation "to ensure that the U.S.-Israel relationship is strong so that both countries can work together" to meet the challenges of "stopping Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons, fighting terrorism and achieving peace".[2] The New York Times described AIPAC on July 6, 1987 as "a major force in shaping United States policy in the Middle East."

[harp1963]

After 300 years of guerrilla warfare with Ireland and these guys say they didn't anticipate the bloody aftermath of the Iraq war? The Brits must be dumber than I thought they were.

[neoconrcrazy]

Brit War Chief: We Underestimated Cheney :


American Public : We too !

[adian1-2009]

This little and late mea culpa is nonsense. Now it is that the belief in that attack and invasion --the attackers prefer to call it war-- was necessary was an honest belief. It is just that the aftermath of the attack and invasion was not assessed correctly. Come on! The British? Is it that you do not remember that you made up Iraq in the 2Os? Had you not been there for decades and decades? Did you not see that there was such a disparity between three regions that for the convenience of your corporations you amalgamated into one that now is called Iraq? And even though so much time has elapsed since then, you did not assess the consequences? I simply do not buy it, sir!!!

[johnpatrick9]

Group thinking is a dangerous thing and repressive to any dissent..."go along and shut up, are you saying you (A Subordinate) know better than I (your superior)?!!? Get on board!" Seigh Heil, and march off to Stalingrad. The Best and Brightest still walk among us though they should be called the Monkeys see and the Monkeys do ...and then the little people die and are maimed for life. "Sorry. Lets move on. Mistakes were made (but not by me.) Its all in my book, how I was just an innocent party to this whole event."
To all of you who supported and voted for Bush hang your heads in shame and for all of you who have bravely opposed this military-industrial take over of our Republic...fight on for you were and are intellectually and morally correct that this premptive war was and is an abomination fostered upon us by arrogant and ignorant men and women with no sense of history or caring of the horrors they have unleashed through their ineptness.

kesac4650 wrote:

"Yeah, but it is a lot more fun to pretend thst the bad guys took over the country, to make their buddies rich."

Are you saying that ******** Cheney isn't making money out of Halliburton etc - especially as they are getting a huge amount of contracts over other companies?

Are you saying that companies who basically paid for GW Bush to become President haven't been awarded no-bid contracts?

[drinuk]

I note that there was no comment from Hoon regarding Britian's top expert on Iraq and WMD's, Dr David Kelly. Having told Blairs government and the country that there were no WMD's Dr Kelly was found DEAD!
They said it was suicide, there are many who believe he was murdered to shut him up. Assasinated! To allow them to proceed with their bogus excuses to go to war in Iraq. Whether it be Hoon, Blair, Bush or Cheney there is little difference, they are as evil as is Bin Laden and of no benefit of our respective nations. These are the people we have employed and payed to care for us and our families, Liars, Cheats and Thieves.

[pianoman42]

There were plenty of dissenting voices about Saddam & WMD, Mr. Hoon. Voices that apparently were filtered out, resulting in an unbalanced assessment. It was a situation that required extreme caution because of the unpredictable aftermath. You had a duty of care, Mr Hoon, that it appears you did not fully exercise.

[rharrin1]

Yeah, but it is a lot more fun to pretend thst the bad guys took over the country, to make their buddies rich.
Posted by kesac4650 at 05:51 AM : May 02, 2007

You don't have to pretend on this at all not even a little bit.

[drinuk]

If anyone believes Hoon they are fools or members of this discredited Blair regime. Of course Cheney had the last word but it remains a fact that between them they cooked up the WMD danger and lied through their high teeth. Hoon is the man who sent British soldiers to Iraq totally under equipped, having to buy their boots, individuals borrowing ammunition from American soldiers and front lines guys having to steal body armour from nurses during the night.
Hoon is a disgrace, he turned a respected fighting force into a band of "Borrowers". Whatever members of the current British government say this week can be assesed as damage limitation prior to elections for local government to be held on Thursday this week. It is quite unbelievable that only two years ago the British people voted in favour of Blair and after serving half his term both he and his band of idiots are on the run, leaving office prior to the S H I T hitting the fan and making excuses for being responsible for the deaths of thousands. They should all HANG.

[missingamerica]

*And you think: what did we miss? I think we missed Cheney*. An unfortunately extremely common affliction. Cheney will probably have a huge impact on the next elections, too...in the form of his face on billboards across the nation that say *Are you willing to risk another one of these? Vote Democrat*.

[bluestardad]

Impeach bush and cheney then try them for war crimes with their cowardly Neocon buddies!

[radiob-2009]

The public, Hoon said, was not interested in perceptions in 2003 or subtle arguments over intelligence or policy.


In other words the public after 9-11 was still in a state of shell shock, hysteria and did not question it nor did the respective government bodies question the intelligence that led us in to the war in Iraq.

[crater7]

CROOKS HONOR;

Just accross the pond, the Crooks will continue to protect their own sort. The B&B boys are joined at the hip, in the murder of over 3,000 American kids, and Hundreds of thousands of Iraqi, citizens. They can spin the web any way they want, but they will ultimately bore the price.

[kesac4650]

Yeah, but it is a lot more fun to pretend thst the bad guys took over the country, to make their buddies rich.