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by radiob-2009 April 9, 2007 8:15 PM EDT
That quote of Eisenhower works almost everytime, those who promote war seem to disappear.Except Lars.
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by lars008-2009 April 9, 2007 8:14 PM EDT
like you can win anything when politicians will not let you.... i guess we might as well hand over the country now.....

The governor said the U.S. military could not counter a wave of millions of Chinese soldiers prepared to die in any onslaught against U.S. forces. After 2,000 casualties, he said, the U.S. military would be forced to withdraw.
http://www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaManager/slasheastasia_1.htm
http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=news&cat=9&id=354332
http://www.pekingduck.org/archives/003182.php
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/8/14/174213.shtml
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by iceman_1960 April 9, 2007 8:11 PM EDT
If I ever start quoting (with approval) anything out of a rag like the Washington Times, take me out back and shoot me.
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by radiob-2009 April 9, 2007 8:10 PM EDT
Thanks, but not everyone will scroll back to verify that. They'll just accept lars' dishonest implication.
Posted by Iceman_1960

I have read many of your posts and knew that it was not you.
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by iceman_1960 April 9, 2007 8:08 PM EDT
"never claimed you did nancy.... as it would be easy enough to verify since i posted the date and time of the post of yours i was replying to...." lars008

OK, then it wasn't malicious, it was sloppy.

To the casual reader it looks like you were saying I posted that. They won't scroll back to check it.

Lets avoid this sloppiness in the future.

People might get the idea that if you can't even handle this silly forum correctly, maybe you don't have a clue about complex issues like Iraq.
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by lars008-2009 April 9, 2007 8:08 PM EDT
Posted by Iceman_1960 at 05:00 PM : Apr 09, 2007

poor little guy, got your feeling hurt for nothing... hahahahaha
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by iceman_1960 April 9, 2007 8:05 PM EDT
"Iceman your quote from 4:37" radiob

Thanks, but not everyone will scroll back to verify that. They'll just accept lars' dishonest implication.
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by radiob-2009 April 9, 2007 8:01 PM EDT
From a former soldier

Eisenhower

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron.

I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, and its stupidity.

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by iceman_1960 April 9, 2007 8:00 PM EDT
Here is lars' idiotic post, complete with delimiting dashes. It attributes to me a washtimes
post that I never made.

If he is a man he'll apologize for this sloppiness.

In other words, he won't apologize.
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Ex-spy fingers Russians on WMD
http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/2003
0820-081256-6822r.htm

Posted by Iceman_1960 at 04:37 PM : Apr 09, 2007

kosovo: yes the usa did have troops die and yes usa troops still are... and yes the usa has troops on the ground yet today....

gulf war one has everything to do with gulf war continued.....

Posted by lars008 at 04:46 PM : Apr 09, 2007
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by lars008-2009 April 9, 2007 7:59 PM EDT
Posted by Iceman_1960 at 04:55 PM : Apr 09, 2007

never claimed you did nancy.... as it would be easy enough to verify since i posted the date and time of the post of yours i was replying to....

but it went right over your head hahahahaa
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by mudrose-2009 April 9, 2007 7:59 PM EDT
And you are a stinking liar and a punk. Now post me saying that, punk.
Posted by Iceman

Why don't you just mealt away?
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by radiob-2009 April 9, 2007 7:58 PM EDT
Iceman your quote from 4:37

"you mean like the one for afghanistan??? you mean like the one for kosovo??? the iraq one came from gulf war one..... you remember that one don't you????" Posted by lars008 at 04:32 PM : Apr 09, 2007

I mean like the one right now. (By the way, Clinton did not "invade" Kosovo, and he lost no troops in combat there.)

Where does a Democrat say to Dubya, "Invade !! Invade !!"

And don't even bring up the first Gulf War. Bush's father refrained from trying to capture Baghdad and settled for a true Mission Accomplished by freeing Kuwait.

He lost 378 dead, about 1/10th of his foolish son's losses SO FAR in his bungled quagmire.


Posted by Iceman_1960 at 04:37 PM : Apr 09, 2007
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by lars008-2009 April 9, 2007 7:56 PM EDT
The following are excerpts from an Al-Qaeda tape featuring a Western Al-Qaeda terrorist, which aired on Al-Arabiya TV on August 9, 2005. Al-Arabiya claims he is Irish
Terrorist: Oh people of the West, don't be fooled by the lies of Blair and Bush that you are free nations, for the only freedom that you have is the freedom to be slaves of your whims and desires. Your children are free to be deprived of their childhood and their innocence. Your women are free to be used as tools of business and entertainment, and all of you as a whole are the slaves of con men and women who rule you. They are your real enemies. If you only knew %u2013 they are the ones who drag your countries to the pit of America's group of scavengers, who seek to ravage the entire globe for the interests of a handful of gangsters and corporate companies. Democracy, human rights, and freedom are all but hollow illusions, with which they tranquilize inhabitants of the human farms which they control. The Muslim world is not your backyard. The Muslim world is not Germany, Japan, or South America. The honorable sons and daughters of Islam will not sit down, watching you spread your evil and immorality and infidelity to our land. The honorable sons of Islam will not just let you kill our families in Palestine, Afghanistan, Kashmir, the Balkans, Indonesia, the Caucasus, and elsewhere. It is time for us to be equals - as you kill us, you will be killed, as you bomb us, you will be bombed.
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by iceman_1960 April 9, 2007 7:55 PM EDT
"Ex-spy fingers Russians on WMD
http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/2003
0820-081256-6822r.htm

Posted by Iceman_1960 at 04:37 PM : Apr 09, 2007"

- lars008

lars008, you are a lying punk. I never posted that washtimes article.

Falsely attributing posts to others is:

REPORTABLE ABUSE

And you are a stinking liar and a punk. Now post me saying that, punk.
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by randalds April 9, 2007 7:53 PM EDT
Have the manhood to admit that.

Posted by Iceman_1960 at 04:50 PM : Apr 09, 2007

I think you're asking for way to much with this one man. His nickname is a variation of *** Blossom, Bush's nickname for Karl Rove, so I'm sure like his namesake he's incapable of saying anything other then propaganda or admitting when he's wrong.
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by lars008-2009 April 9, 2007 7:53 PM EDT
During WW II, the Japanese were searching for a way to demoralize the American forces that they faced. Their psychological warfare experts came up with a message that they thought would work well.

They gave the script to their famous broadcaster, "Tokyo Rose," and every day she would broadcast this same message packaged in various ways, hoping to have an impact on American GI morale. What was the message?
It had three main points:
1. Your president is lying to you.
2. This war is illegal.
3. You cannot win the war.

Sound familiar? the Democratic Party has picked up the same message and is broadcasting it to civilians domestic and abroad, and to our troops and our enemies. The only difference is that they claim to support our troops before they demoralize them.

Come to think of it, Tokyo Rose used to tell the troops that she was on their side.

I am often struck by how similar the rhetoric from the left is to the rhetoric from our enemies. Consider this transcript of a taped al qaeda message:

English-Speaking Al-Qaeda Terrorist: Oh People of the West.... It IsTime for Us to Be Equals - As You Kill Us, You Will be Killed (Fuller Version)
http://memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=802
http://www.fireblades.org/forums/politics/43297-tokyo-rose-redux.html
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by radiob-2009 April 9, 2007 7:51 PM EDT
Lars Pelosi voted against the war.
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by iceman_1960 April 9, 2007 7:50 PM EDT
"Show me the quote. Make one up if you have to."
Posted by Iceman

"Do you know the meaning of abstraction? Have you ever done it before? Can you use methods of deduction? Or is your mind made of concrete?"
Posted by mudrose at 04:45 PM : Apr 09, 2007

Spare me the philosophy lecture. I could teach the course, and you'd flunk out.

All I can see here is that "deduction" (which just happens to lead you to pro-Bush, pro-war conclusions, doesn't it?) is cited by you because you can't find an actual quote to save your life.

Have the manhood to admit that.
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by lars008-2009 April 9, 2007 7:49 PM EDT
are you looking for WMD's??

Ex-spy fingers Russians on WMD
http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/2003
0820-081256-6822r.htm

only for those who can read..

On March 20, Russian PresidentVladimir Putin denounced the U.S.-led "aggression" against Iraq as "unwarranted" and "unjustifiable." Three days later, Pravda said that an anonymous Russian "military expert" was predicting that the United States would fabricate finding Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov immediately started plying the idea abroad, and it has taken hold around the world ever since.
As a former Romanian spy chief who used to take orders from the Soviet KGB, it is perfectly obvious to me that Russia is behind the evanescence of Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction. After all, Russia helped Saddam get his hands on them in the first place. The Soviet Union and all its bloc states always had a standard operating procedure for deep sixing weapons of mass destruction %u2014 in Romanian it was codenamed "Sarindar, meaning "emergency exit."Iimplemented it in Libya. It was for ridding Third World despots of all trace of their chemical weapons if the Western imperialists ever got near them. We wanted to make sure they would never be traced back to us, and we also wanted to frustrate the West by not giving them anything they could make propaganda with.
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by randalds April 9, 2007 7:49 PM EDT
Oh wait! I have another funny one! Bush really IS/WAS a real Texas rancher! LOL! His "ranch" is real!! LOL!!!

Grow up! You've been had! You've been lied to. you've been hoodwinked. Taken. Conned by the White House lies department. Bush lied and lied and lied and took us into a war of choice for profit! Not because of WMD's, not because of 9-11 and not even to "spread democracy", but to make money for war contractors and big oil! His lies cost tens of thousands of innocent lives in Iraq and slaughtered more then 3200 of our troops for MONEY!
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