Comments on: Friendly Fire Probed In U.S. Troop Deaths

Families Of 2 Soldiers Were Initially Told They Were Killed By Enemy Fire In Iraq

[alphaa10-2009]

What a time for our Department of Defense to remind us it doesn't tell the truth to Americans! Do we really trust these guys to plan any war with anybody? What are they not telling us, now?!!

It's an issue of integrity and trust-- typical of problems afflicting the Bush regime, from Bush on down. From the beginning, DOD and Rumsfeld lied about Tillman, and then stonewalled for years, hoping their lies would be forgotten. Should it be any surprise for them now to say, "OK, we were wrong, this is unacceptable, but so what?"

Of course, official deceit is much deeper and broader than Tillman. Cheney, who wrote much of the script for Iraq, probably has a good idea how Bush will contrive war with Iran, too. As the bozo with a hairtrigger paranoia-- and probably the only Vice President to take charge of actual Vice-- Cheney shares the inability to choose his targets wisely. Cheney's furtive, vindictive and secretive actions, from the first day, have created self-inflicted wounds in the Bush regime.

To GOP posters worried Bush regime incompetence and corruption might go public, you can relax. Pretty much everybody knows your little secret, now. The only question now is how Bush can leave the GOP with any dignity intact.

The Metropolitan Opera's Rudolph Bing once told this anecdote of a famous diva who retired earlier than expected. As she explained it, "I would rather have people exclaim, 'Already !?' than shake their heads, 'At last ! ' "

[randalds]

Number of military deaths during Clintoon's peacetime, roughly 4200, during 4+ years of WAR in Iraq, roughly 3200.

Posted by badaxmofo at 06:44 PM : Apr 04, 2007

Source? Or did you just pull the numbers out of your as*s like you usually do? How many of the deaths under Clinton were because of war? Besides the point is that their is a huge difference between dying in the military (of car accidents, heart attacks or whatever you're talking about) and being killed in combat for no reason at all other then to make Bush's friends rich. Our troops in Iraq are not dying for America. They're not dying for freedom for Iraq. They're not dying to stop terrorism. They're not dying because Saddam had WMD's. They're not dying to "spread democracy". They're dying so Bush and Cheney's friends can make hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars in profit and that all. In my book that means they're dying for nothing. They're lives are being wasted. Thrown away by an uncaring baboon in the White House and his handler in the VP's office.

[kcstan11]

1000's of sheep kidnapped ... how low will they go ???

[zootallures2]

So what? Americans burst in to their own schools a gun down their own children.

The death toll from Israel/Palestinian Indifada 2000-2004 - 4,000

The death toll in Texas by Murder 2000-2004 - 6,000

[tiredofthebs]

mh4cbs1


AMEN! Any other world leader would be before a WAR CRIMES TRIBUNAL at the HAGUE. The actions of the BUSH ADMINISTRATION are not much different from those that made the world go to war with HITLER and the NAZIS! These were kids!!!! They lost their lives for BUSH's idiotic crusade and WE STILL HAVEN'T FOUND ONE WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION! EXECUTE BUSH, CHENEY, & RUMSFELD !!!! Jail is too lenient.

[alphaa10-2009]

"President Bush said Tuesday Democrats are failing their responsibility to the troops ..."
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Bush failed his responsibility to protect our troops by putting them in harm's way needlessly. Bush excuses for the invasion turned out to be a pack of lies.

With The Liar-in-Chief also commander of the armed forces, Bush is criminally responsible for the deaths of 3200 Americans, the suffering of tens of thousands wounded and $415 billion taxpayer dollars squandered on Bush-Cheney petty intrigues.

In 2003, Bush told the nation its national security was at stake and proceeded to lie at every opportunity about evidence that was never found, then admitted-- finally-- Iraq had nothing to do with 911.

In November, 2005, in Washington, DC, Bush, facing an assembly of his own party members critical of his NSA spying program, bristled like a teenager caught drinking after curfew-- "Stop throwing the Constitution in my face! It just a GD)((#@*! piece of paper!"

Is this figure, who claims to be president of the United States, the same who pledged an oath to "protect, preserve and defend" the document he calls a "GD)((#@*! piece of paper"?

Any administration which lies to its people earns distrust and deserves what it gets-- the basic element of any political/social contract is trust in the honesty of leadership.

[feelfree1]

ABC News report:

The Bush regime has been covertly using former (current?) Taliban fighters in Pakistan, to wage terrorist attacks against Iran, since 2005.

According to ABC's Brian Ross and Christopher Isham:

"The leader, Regi, claims to have personally executed some of the Iranians.

""He used to fight with the Taliban. He's part drug smuggler, part Taliban, part Sunni activist," said Alexis Debat, a senior fellow on counterterrorism at the Nixon Center and an ABC News consultant who recently met with Pakistani officials and tribal members."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/04/abc_news_exclus.html

I would like to see CBS pick this up!

[feelfree1]

Re: "The U.S. military said Wednesday that it remains "extremely concerned" about high-profile bombings despite a drop in the overall death toll in Baghdad after more than 300 people were killed in such attacks in recent weeks."

'Democracy Now!' cites a Washington Post figure of 2,800 Iraqis killed In March alone, in Iraq.
How's that for a surge?

This figure is considerably higher than the 300 person figure accounted for here, by this nameless CBS/AP writer.

Who killed the rest?

www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/04/04/1343204

[mh4cbs1]

obiquital:

You are a victim of the same old re-cycled scare propaganda that kept us in Vietnam. "There will be a bloodbath if we leave" that was the constant media mantra that kept us in Vietnam for over a decade, costing 55,000 dead US Toops, and a couple MILLION southeast asians.

Turns out, once the US finally left, the Bloodbath that WE WERE CAUSING came abruptly to an end. Peace came to Vietnam after decades of their War against their occupiers (France, then US). We left the coutry in ruins, more bombs than in all of World War II, forgotten land mines blowing up kids, herbides causing birth defects and cancer.

WHY? It was all about hubris, fear, need to dominate a region of the world. Sound familiar? Sure, Iraq is just the latest, though you could toss in "greed" as well when it comes to Iraq.

[mh4cbs1]

Do you have ANY IDEA just how much death and destruction Bush and Cheney are RESPONSIBLE for?

Think just of our 3,250 dead troops and 800 dead US mercenary contractors. If you lined up their coffins they would stretch for 5 MILES. Think about that next time you are driving along the highway, the lined up coffins rushing past you at 60 miles/hr for 5 minutes. Think about each the grieving families of each coffin, think about the fatherless kids.

Drive for another couple HUNDRED miles and you get the idea on how many Iraqis are dead from the Bush War.

When will the Cheney/Bush murderous thugs be sent to JAIL for DELIBERATELY LYING us into this needless, horrific War??

JAIL BUSH
JAIL CHENEY
THEY BELONG IN JAIL for their CRIMES!

[randalds]

None of you have a comment on the more than 600 Iraqi people killed last week in sectarian violence? Do you imagine this number will go down if US troops leave? It won't. It will only rise if we leave. So do you just not give a **** about those people because they are Iraqi? If this is so, you are horrible people.
Posted by obiquital at 10:28 AM : Apr 04, 2007

Just about every thinking person who posts here had many many comments about the more then 600 Iraqi's who have been killed in the last week, so you premise that we didn't is a joke! Do you bother to read these posts or just assume that you're right? The truth is that we're just dragging out the inevitable, a partitioning of Iraq along the borders THEY settle on. There is absolutely no reason to think there'll be some sort of blood bath if we leave. Sure there might be, but there is already one going on now anyway!

[hangelle]

There was a 4% drop in the number of Iraqi civilian deaths in March. That 4% drop cost us 4 years of war with the loss of 3257 American troops. It maimed 24,476 others and continues to cost 8 billion dollars each month. Those who think that spells success need to update their passports and head over there -- and they should bring with them the likes of Bush, Cheney, and now McCain to lead them on. Our military doesn't deserve to be mishandled by the Bush administration one second longer. Bring them home and lets send all those neocon idiots over there to take over.

[skyk-2009]

None of you have a comment on the more than 600 Iraqi people killed last week in sectarian violence? Do you imagine this number will go down if US troops leave? It won't. It will only rise if we leave. So do you just not give a **** about those people because they are Iraqi? If this is so, you are horrible people.
Posted by obiquital at 10:28 AM : Apr 04, 2007
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So you think we should just stay there forever?? Look it's THEIR turn to pull the load. We removed the Dictator and they have a chance to make something of their nation but WE can NOT do that for them. YOU nazi's want to make them into a country where the rich can exploit them like they've done so many others and that just is not going to happen. It's time we pulled back our troops and tried to bring all sides together.... let them work out how to govern themselves and how to defend their nation. We are nothing but a hinderence there and it's time we left.

[missmyhubby]

None of you have a comment on the more than 600 Iraqi people killed last week in sectarian violence? Do you imagine this number will go down if US troops leave? It won't. It will only rise if we leave. So do you just not give a **** about those people because they are Iraqi? If this is so, you are horrible people.
Posted by obiquital

So please tell me how our presence is helping! Our troops are there, hands tied. The security "crackdown" was announced--allowing the "bad guys" to get out of Baghdad before the crackdown started. Now violence is up outside of Baghdad, more of our soldiers are being attacked, and the President is going to send in more troops! THIS IS INSANE! We may have had a hand in creating this mess, but we can not fix it. The best thing we could do for the Iraqi people is withdraw to Iraq's borders and let them hash out their issues. I think it is pretty evident that the Iraqi people do not want us there! So, let's backoff and then LEAVE!

[obiquital]

None of you have a comment on the more than 600 Iraqi people killed last week in sectarian violence? Do you imagine this number will go down if US troops leave? It won't. It will only rise if we leave. So do you just not give a **** about those people because they are Iraqi? If this is so, you are horrible people.

[dogband]

Dang, it just gets better and better every day here. I'll bet real estate is cheap, may be a good place for me to purchase a retirement home.

In about 10 more years at 1000 deaths per year, this place will be a shining example of democracy. Heck, they will probably rename it Bushdom.

[bluestardad]

Hey I thought Senator McCain said this place was safe?

[radiob-2009]

Was this not anticipated? What counter measures were taken when the crackdown in Baghdad were taken to offset attacks elswhere in Iraq?