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Suicide Bombers Target Shiite Marketplaces In Baghdad And Town North Of Capital

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by down-ndirty March 30, 2007 12:01 AM EDT
"More people than that cross our borders illegally every day." Posted by Iceman_1960

And apparently they can get a boat in Haiti and land in Florida almost unnoticed. Had it been nighttime, they might have gotten away with it.
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by iceman_1960 March 30, 2007 12:00 AM EDT
The terrorists haven't made any gentleman's agreement with us, not to attack us as long as we stay in Iraq.

That war only motivates them further.

Stepped up security around the world has protected us since 9/11, not this war.

A blind man could see that in a second.

Bush can't even secure the border with Mexico. There is no way he can keep all the terrorists in Iraq. It only took a few terrorists to do 9/11.
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by rafterman1 March 29, 2007 11:57 PM EDT
"It only took a handful of terrorists to perpetrate 9/11. More people than that cross our borders illegally every day."

But it also took them almost 10 years to pull it off. With stringent border and airport security, it could take them 15 or 20 years next time. 9-11 showed us that we were as vulnerable to terrorism as any other country and it's just something we are going to have to deal with in the future. And I mean deal with, not get paranoid and stop living our lives in fear of terrorism.

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by frankly6 March 29, 2007 11:57 PM EDT


"in the meantime, once the terrorists know our timeline they can make their 'coming to America' travel plans accordingly..."


badaxmofo

Perhaps we could have spent the trillion dollars we're spending in Iraq on good border and imigration security here at home.


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by iceman_1960 March 29, 2007 11:53 PM EDT
The terrorists already came to America, on 9/11/2001.

Only stringent security in the airports and elsewhere has prevented a repeat performance.

It has nothing to do with any deadline for troop withdrawals from Iraq.

Nothing at all.

It only took a handful of terrorists to perpetrate 9/11. More people than that cross our borders illegally every day.
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by frankly6 March 29, 2007 11:52 PM EDT


badaxmofo


Never move into a man's house and try to claim is valuables when that man is willing to burn his house down around you both just to get you to leave.



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by rafterman1 March 29, 2007 11:51 PM EDT
"Kill insurgents in Iraq/Afghanistan before they become insurgents in Manhattan and Los Angeles!"
badaxmofo Are they coming here by canoe? Why would they come here when all they want is for us to leave THEIR country? Don't they have every right to want us out?"

It's the typical fear mongering of the right - the "fight them there before we have to fight them here" crowd. It's the reason they won two elections.

But any thinking person knows how ridiculous it is. We are a population of 300 million. We have unlimited industrial and technological might. We command space. And we have 5000 nuclear warheads. What sane person really believes that a bunch of poor, barely into the 20th century people are going to "fight us over here"? Pure stupidity and nothing but a scare tactic to fool other non-thinking people into a far right agenda.

These are the same types of peope who break out with the "we'd be speaking German/Japanese if..." card from WWII. Also ridiculous.
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by iceman_1960 March 29, 2007 11:48 PM EDT
"Whenever I hear things like that, I thank God I'm an atheist."

Thus sayeth Archie Bunker's son-in-law Michael, after Archie had come up with a typically bizarre statement of religious belief, on an old episode of "All in the Family."
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by down-ndirty March 29, 2007 11:44 PM EDT
"And yes, I have a friend who just returned from China who was threatened while he was there JUST because he was a Christian and was told not to even speak the name of Jesus to others or there would be consequences." Posted by dsutton13

Why would people go to a country like China and speak the word Jesus unless they were on a 'mission?' And if it's a rule of law, why would a person violate the law and think they could get away with it?

We've come full circle here. We're back to the fundamentalist christians pushing their religion on others, especially others who already have a religion.

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by iceman_1960 March 29, 2007 11:43 PM EDT
I believe it was Pol Pot in Cambodia who killed religious believers on sight.
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by kstrisha March 29, 2007 11:41 PM EDT
Nixon lost funding for Vietnam because of his shady political dealings, Watergate; Americans lost faith.

Bush is losing support in Iraq because of lost
money to War Contractors like Haliburton, and lying to go to war in the first place like Weapons of Mass Destruction.




Mirror, mirror on the wall...
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by micma-2009 March 29, 2007 11:39 PM EDT

"Kill insurgents in Iraq/Afghanistan before they become insurgents in Manhattan and Los Angeles!"


badaxmofo


Are they coming here by canoe?

Why would they come here when all they want is for us to leave THEIR country? Don't they have every right to want us out?



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by iceman_1960 March 29, 2007 11:38 PM EDT
"Kill insurgents in Iraq/Afghanistan before they become insurgents in Manhattan and Los Angeles!"

To anyone who is old enough to have lived through the Vietnam War period, those words have a familiar ring.

"If we don't fight the Vietcong in Southeat Asia we'll have to fight them on the beaches of California."

Same old bullsh*t, repackaged and recycled.

America is safe from terrorist attacks only because of increased security, particularly in the world's airports and America's ports of entry.

Not because of this a*ssbackwards war.

(P.S. Iraq didn't attack us on 9/11. Get that through your head once and for all.)
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by down-ndirty March 29, 2007 11:36 PM EDT
"China Christians are being imprisoned and killed simply because they believe in God...and the govt leaders DO NOT." Posted by dsutton13

Where is your source for China's leaders not believing in god?

Mahayana Buddhism is the largest organized religion in China and is as old as christianity. Just because they don't worship a human being doesn't mean they are atheists.

I can certainly understand why they don't want christian missionaries in their country. LOL!


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by micma-2009 March 29, 2007 11:36 PM EDT



badaxmofo


Who should we side with in Iraq now that it's spiraled into a CIVIL WAR?

Should we side with Pro-Sadam Sunni extremists that hate us?

or

Should we continue to side with Pro-Iranian Shia extremists that hate us?

or

Should we play referee in the middle while we get shot at and blown to pieces?

Bush and Co. lost Iraq when they allowed the security situation to spiral into a CIVIL WAR.

I's all over but the denying my friend.



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by iceman_1960 March 29, 2007 11:34 PM EDT
There is no way in hell that a conventional military force of mostly light skinned American Christians will "win" in a situation like this.

This ain't no John Wayne Western:

"Two suicide bombers struck a market in a predominantly Shiite neighborhood in Baghdad on Thursday, killing at least 61 people and wounding 40, police and security officials said. Three suicide car bombers struck a market in another predominantly Shiite town north of Baghdad on Thursday, killing at least 43 people and wounding 86, police and city officials said."


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by iceman_1960 March 29, 2007 11:31 PM EDT
Dems lost 'Nam - why not lose another one?!?!?!
Posted by badaxmofo

How do you win in Iraq ?

They are fighting a sectarian war that dates back to the 7th century AD.

No way you can win that, unless you exterminate most of the civilian populationion. That's how Hitler would win in Iraq. America doesn't cross that line.
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by iceman_1960 March 29, 2007 11:27 PM EDT
"ON THE HEELS of John Mc Cain's interview on CNN about how safe the streets of Iraq are now thanks to the SURGE..." Posted by kstrisha

The Commander-in-Chief foresaw this clearly:

"There will be good days and bad days in Iraq." Bush - a brilliant and insightful prediction.

(A good day in Iraq is when you don't get blown up.)
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by down-ndirty March 29, 2007 11:27 PM EDT
"Stalin didn't muder because of his atheism and you know it. He murdered as a result of his acute paranoia." Posted by formrusmcsgt

True...plus his hard-heartedness. Stalin wasn't particular about who died under his rule. The approx 7 million deaths dsutton [incorrectly] refers to were a result of Stalin's collective farming policy and the confiscation of grain, which contributed to a famine.

They may have been Jews and christians but they died because of Stalin's policies and the resultant famine.

source: http://www.unitedhumanrights.org/stalin_famine.htm
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by kstrisha March 29, 2007 11:22 PM EDT
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At Least 122 Killed In Iraq Violence
Suicide Bombers Target Shiite Marketplaces In Baghdad And Town North Of Capital

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ON THE HEELS of John Mc Cain's interview on CNN about how safe the streets of Iraq are now thanks to the SURGE...
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