Comments on: White House Will Fight For War Powers

Bush Will Stand His Ground If Democrats Try To Revoke 2002 Authorization

[bluestardad]

America is leaving Iraq and the Middle East so all you Support Saudi and Israel First people are going to have to get use to it. Maybe you should go live over there, buy some beach front property or something. I am sure someone will give it to you cheap because of your 50 years of support for these foreign countries at the expense of American lives and treasure!

[formrusmcsgt]

More appeasement and support of Sharia and surrender - NOT dissent - from a traitor who has the nerve to call me a "reserve reject"..

What's wrong, traitor, cat got your tongue - or balls?
Posted by Lieberman181 at 11:03 AM : Feb 24, 2007

You yourself admitted to me that you're a reserve reject, lieberman.

And where's that email addy, huh? I'll ship you my DD-214 and then you can print it out and choke yourself with it.

You won't give and you know it. Then you couldn't continue calling me a fraud. Here's you chance, little man. Put up or shut up.

[lars008-2009]

king and queen of lies... skippy

"Everybody in politics lies, but they [the Clintons] do it with such ease, it%u2019s troubling,%u201D Geffen said.
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jspvnu_content_id=1003548043
hahahaha people paying to listen to a proven, convicted, impeached, disbarred liar%u2026lol
For Clinton, New Wealth In Speeches
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/22/AR2007022202189.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn
/content/article/2007/02/21/AR2007022100993_pf.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17263999/

[lars008-2009]

yes you did give a promise skippy.....

USA's PLEDGE 2 THE WORLD GIVEN BY JFK!!
"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty."
--John F. Kennedy, Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1961 "

"Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country." --John F. Kennedy, Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1961 "

One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half. Winston Churchill

Edmund Burke: All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing.

[lars008-2009]

Franklin D. Roosevelt's Infamy Speech
December 8, 1941/September 12, 2001
The facts of yesterday speak for themselves. The people of the United States have already formed their opinions and well understand the implications to the very life and safety of our nation.

As Commander-in-Chief of the Army and Navy, I have directed that all measures be taken for our defense.

Always will we remember the character of the onslaught against us. No matter how long it may take us to overcome this premeditated invasion, the American people in their righteous might will win through to absolute victory.

I believe I interpret the will of the Congress and of the people when I assert that we will not only defend ourselves to the uttermost but will make very certain that this form of treachery shall never endanger us again.

Hostilities exist. There is no blinking at the fact that our people, our territory and our interests are in grave danger.

With confidence in our armed forces - with the unbounded determination of our people - we will gain the inevitable triumph - so help us God.

[lieberman181]

Ex so-called "USMCSGT" -

Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah.

More appeasement and support of Sharia and surrender - NOT dissent - from a traitor who has the nerve to call me a "reserve reject" when he loves the Draft Dodging Pervert who bombed Serb civilians while doing nothing about Bin Laden.

Say, Ex, where were you when Clinton and Miss Piggy NotBright launched their ILLEGAL war against Serbia on Kosovo - even after Bin Laden's Embassy bombings? - I didn't hear you advocate surrender then or urge that we pull out the troops.

Nor did I hear you hurl insults at a guy who was a real chickensh*t - except for lifting up woman's skirts - NOT his own cuckolded shrew's though...lol.

What's wrong, traitor, cat got your tongue - or balls?

[formrusmcsgt]

Again, you may find these to be an inconvenient truth.
Posted by heetseeker at 10:57 AM : Feb 24, 2007

Another inconvenient truth about these neocons is that they see the Kool-Aid line getting shorter and shorter......

[heetseeker]

"We never went in to "disarm" Iraq as much as seek out and find/destroy what Iraq would not present. We did so directly because of Iraqi lies to both the UN and the UN's inspection team."

Posted by pwrslm at 10:31 AM : Feb 24, 2007

Far be it from me to quibble over language, but I find your logic hard to follow. Presumably when you state that we went to Iraq to: "seek out, find/destroy what Iraq would not present" you are referring to weapons of mass destruction ie: chemical/ biological weapons. But surely, if our objective was to seek them out and destroy them would that not have amounted to "disarming" Saddam of these weapons as I suggested earlier?

Regarding the issue of deception, I agree that Saddam certainly deceived. I also agree that many other nations were deceived by him on the issue of WMD (not just us). However, I beg to differ with you on the point that intelligence was not spun (by the administration) for the purpose of making war. In the run up to war the administration made highly questionable judgements about "intelligence" and sought a view that corresponded with its pre-determined policy objective. As part of this intelligence caveats were ignored and alternativs interpretations set aside. This is now a matter of public record.

Again, you may find these to be an inconvenient truth.

[formrusmcsgt]

Oh, I'm sure traitor ex will come up with another insult or pooh-pooh remark - he's usually good at that. And spew hate too.
Posted by Lieberman181 at 10:49 AM : Feb 24, 2007

This downright hilarious coming from you, lieberman. Just moments ago you posted:

"Any ex so-called USMC sgt who openly supports Islamofascism, who obvious hates America, Jews and Christians like this little bugger does, and who once replied to me that he would give me his answer what he would do later in the case of an Iranian or Islamic nuclear 9/11 on this country is a fraud - or better yet, a traitor. Most Marines I know, former or otherwise would repudiate such a scoundrel."

In one statement you called me a fraud, islamo-fascist, America hater, Jew hater, Christian hater,traitor and a scoundrel.

Yet you hypocriticaly complain about insults.

Watch that glass house you're throwing stones from, lieberman.....

[bluestardad]

Wether you like it or not America is coming out of Iraq! It is leaving the Middle East. So the Support Saudi and Israel first Crowd can cry all they want but it is going to happen.

[lieberman181]

pwrslm, and Hawk Springs -

Both of you are absolutely on the mark.

It isn't Congress, especially the group of Sharia surrender types who just got elected, to decide how this war should go - especially since they advocate surrender.

But it is the President, whether the bozos like him or not, and the Warriors, the Generals and the Soldiers in the field who have a right to dictate that. Just because "ex" and skybozo and a few others here, and their friends Murtha, Hagel, Webb and Kerry lost 'Nam or allowed their as usual surrender-minded Dems to lose Nam does NOT give them any right to advocate further surrenders on the part of this country especially to an enemy much more worse than the Cong ever was.

Oh, I'm sure traitor ex will come up with another insult or pooh-pooh remark - he's usually good at that. And spew hate too.

[formrusmcsgt]

Any ex so-called USMC sgt who openly supports Islamofascism, who obvious hates America, Jews and Christians like this little bugger does, and who once replied to me that he would give me his answer what he would do later in the case of an Iranian or Islamic nuclear 9/11 on this country is a fraud - or better yet, a traitor. Most Marines I know, former or otherwise would repudiate such a scoundrel.
Posted by Lieberman181 at 10:41 AM : Feb 24, 2007

Pretty big talk from a reserve reject.....give me your email and I ship you a copy of my DD-214, little man.

And how typical of a neocon to call anyone who doesn't support this boondoggle a traitor or enemy agent.

As if a patriot has to support defective policy... nice try, but it doesn't soap, lieberman.

Being a dissident doesn't make you a coward or traitor, lieberman, it means your are a dissident.

[formrusmcsgt]

The issue was that Congress caused us to lose the war, not on who ended it. Certainly, it was lost even before Nixon withdrew our troops.
Posted by pwrslm at 10:35 AM : Feb 24, 2007

What caused us to lose Viet Nam was a defective strategy, the same defective strategy we're using in Iraq, I might add, not the Congress.

[pwrslm]

Congress has no business dictating the tactics of war.

Only on authorizing the war.

If skippy the demoncrat wants to change his mind, oh well. Its beyond his authority to stop whats begun.

Only the President has the authority to end a war.

[lieberman181]

Ex-lax, who now calls himself formusmcsgt, is probably a fraud.

Any ex so-called USMC sgt who openly supports Islamofascism, who obvious hates America, Jews and Christians like this little bugger does, and who once replied to me that he would give me his answer what he would do later in the case of an Iranian or Islamic nuclear 9/11 on this country is a fraud - or better yet, a traitor. Most Marines I know, former or otherwise would repudiate such a scoundrel.

Heck, if it got too hot for him on Guadalcanal he'd beg for a cease-fire with the Japanese. Or promptly embrace Hirohito's creed. As I commented before he and other so-called "ex soldiers who openly give aid and comfort to the enemy and urge our surrender there are irrelevant and history.

Just like their friend to the right of this article - Plagarizer Joe Biden, a guy who like Hanoi John Kerry and Traitor Murtha has never supported the troops since Vietnam, supported the Sandinistas, supported Jimmy Carter and the creation of a hostile Iran, and would gladly surrender to Islamofascists if he ever became (thank goodness he won't) President.

Biden is another Neville Chamberlain in a party filled with gutless, sharia yearning Neo-Fascists, Crooks and Cowards - namely the Democrats. And yet idiots like Ex and his friends spew hate towards the other Joe - Lieberman - for showing guts, integrity, and intelligence.

Go swill some toilet water with Plagerizer Joe, or the Botox Hajibi wearer Nancy, Neo-Fat Bozos.

[pwrslm]

Nixon ended Viet Nam, not the 92nd Congress


Posted by formrusmcsgt at 10:31 AM : Feb 24, 2007

Hey, simpleton.

The issue was that Congress caused us to lose the war, not on who ended it. Certainly, it was lost even before Nixon withdrew our troops.

[formrusmcsgt]

So why do you use how much we've spent on this war as a sign of it's failure?

Posted by HawkSprings at 10:28 AM : Feb 24, 2007

First of all, I am an Independent and have about as much use for the Dems as I do the Repubs. Both parties put their agenda first and the country second, in my view.

Secondly, I ask the supporters of this boondoggle what it's worth to them in human and monetary terms because they obviously feel that what we've wasted to this point is not too much. They ask for more.

I want to know how much more they think Iraq is worth.

[pwrslm]

I was under the impression that the purpose of the war was to disarm Iraq of weapons of mass distruction,
Posted by heetseeker at 09:31 AM : Feb 24, 2007


I was under the impression that we were in Iraq because Iraq refused to comply with the cease fire agreement it had agreed to.



We never went in to "disarm" Iraq as much as seek out and find/destroy what Iraq would not present. We did so directly because of Iraqi lies to both the UN and the UN's inspection team.

Not because we could prove that Iraq was poised to use those weapons, but that they failed to disarm "transparently". Or did you forget about the missles that the UN was destroying at the end there, or the chemical/biological munitions that kept "popping up" in area's that had already been inspected....

No, the deception was from Iraq, the bath party, and Saddam Hussein. Not the CIA, or President Bush, or VP Cheney.

Whatever the situation, Bush told us years ago, and I agree, that its better for the Islamist to follow our soldiers to Iraq, then it is for them to target us, on our soil.

[formrusmcsgt]

Your reply was wrong.

The only thing your proving is that you have no clue what your talking about, as usual.
Posted by pwrslm at 10:22 AM : Feb 24, 2007

This is a list of legislation passed by the 92nd Congress. You will note that there is no legislation withdrawing troops from nor cutting funding for Viet Nam:

1971 December 18 - Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act

1971 December 23 - National Cancer Act

1972 February 7 - Federal Election Campaign Act

1972 March 24 - Equal Employment Opportunity Act

1972 June 23 - Title IX Amendment of the Higher Education Act

1972 October 6 - Federal Advisory Committee Act

1972 October 21 - Marine Mammal Protection Act

1972 October 27 - Consumer Product Safety Act

1972 October 27 - Noise Control Act

1972 October 27 - Coastal Zone Management Act

Nixon ended Viet Nam, not the 92nd Congress

[bvckvs-2009]

It's weird that Bush doesn't want to define what the soldiers' mission in Iraq is. It's almost as if he has some private, personal or even faith-based grudge against the Iraqi people.