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More Attacks, Less Troops In Diyala Province As Military Focuses On Baghdad Crackdown

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by formrusmcsgt February 23, 2007 3:04 PM EST
There are just as many conservatives in the military as there are liberals.....

Probably more conservatives actually.
Posted by singinrick at 11:53 AM : Feb 23, 2007

Demonization of the enemy is part and parcel of the conditioning and especially effective on the younger warriors.

It's difficult to convince people to kill others without giving them some demonization so that they can rationalize the act.

The older warriors know the game and don't fall for it. To them, it's more of a job than a campaign against the devil.
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by karlimhof February 23, 2007 2:52 PM EST
This has got to be stupidest ******* "surge" of the Bush War ever. Publicized in advance, seems the strategy is to scare off the bag guys for awhile and then call it "success". Dumbest ******* WAR ever and given to thanks GWB & Neocons:
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by formrusmcsgt February 23, 2007 2:48 PM EST
-So this means the entire Marine Corps feels this way right former?
Posted by singinrick at 11:42 AM : Feb 23, 2007

rick, you get down right ridiculous with your imposed extrapolations at times. I did not say that and you know it. Why are you so insistant on putting words in my mouth? I express myself clearly and concisely, in most people's opinion.

I do not correspond with each and every Marine in Iraq. But the ones with whom I do correspond can smell the coffee.
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by radiob-2009 February 23, 2007 2:43 PM EST
Where is Rick coming from with that?
Posted by radiob at 11:35 AM : Feb 23, 2007

Ok, I'm with you now. "Devil Dog" is a nick name Marines use for each other. Akin to "gyrine", "jarhead", etc.
Posted by formrusmcsgt

I forget that one its been almost thirties years since I served and we (Navy) generally called Marines Jarheads, but thanks for refreshing my memory on that.
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by formrusmcsgt February 23, 2007 2:40 PM EST
Where is Rick coming from with that?
Posted by radiob at 11:35 AM : Feb 23, 2007

Ok, I'm with you now. "Devil Dog" is a nick name Marines use for each other. Akin to "gyrine", "jarhead", etc.
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by radiob-2009 February 23, 2007 2:39 PM EST
Where is a impartial response regarding Haliburton and Cheney?
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by roger_inkart February 23, 2007 2:35 PM EST
Well, about the only ones still supporting this war are the faith-based reality types. Both them and the Bush administration seem to believe that you can bend truth to fit your beliefs by sheer will.

While I admire their tenacity I loathe what their delusions are doing to the nation.
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by radiob-2009 February 23, 2007 2:35 PM EST
How did Cerebus get in this converation? Devil Dog????
Posted by radiob at 11:25 AM : Feb 23, 2007

?????
Posted by formrusmcsgt

I am at a loss myself on this when someone infers devil dog which is generally thought of as the mythological dog the guards the gates to Hades named Cerebus. Where is Rick coming from with that?
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by formrusmcsgt February 23, 2007 2:30 PM EST
How did Cerebus get in this converation? Devil Dog????
Posted by radiob at 11:25 AM : Feb 23, 2007

?????
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by formrusmcsgt February 23, 2007 2:26 PM EST
-No victory is achievable heh? I'm sure the troops would love to hear you say this. No wonder you are a "former" marine.


You still don't have a problem spending money with In God We Trust printed on it either, do you?

What's your excuse....I know you've got one. Say how it wasn't added to money until later, say it's just a "slogan", or what not....

come on now, I'm waiting....
Posted by singinrick at 11:18 AM : Feb 23, 2007

I have no choice but to use currency with the slogan on it. It is the only legal tender available in this country. What do you expect me to do rick, print my own?

And in regards to no victory being achievale in this circumstance, that comes as as no surprise to our troops. I correspond via email with some in the theater and they see day after day, month after month, year after year, tour after tour pass with no gain. It is by no means a secret.
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by radiob-2009 February 23, 2007 2:25 PM EST
How did Cerebus get in this converation? Devil Dog????
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by apndrgn February 23, 2007 2:24 PM EST
right. in god we trust. joshua won in jericho with a trumpet. war being basically bigger boards with bigger nails, maybe all the soldiers in Baghdad should be issued 'Baghpipes'. It would be credit toward college and cover funeral expenses at the same time, if they get kilt.
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by apndrgn February 23, 2007 2:23 PM EST
right. in god we trust. joshua won in jericho with a trumpet. war being basically bigger boards with bigger nails, maybe all the soldiers in Baghdad should be issued 'Baghpipes'. It would be credit toward college and cover funeral expenses at the same time, if they get kilt.
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by formrusmcsgt February 23, 2007 2:21 PM EST
-formr, thanks for answering the question for me.....with your genuine wisdom.

Good job devil dog.
Posted by singinrick at 11:14 AM : Feb 23, 2007

Considering our history, I assume that you are being facetious here......
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by radiob-2009 February 23, 2007 2:21 PM EST
Gee radiob, maybe it's because no investigation is needed.


-formr, thanks for answering the question for me.....with your genuine wisdom.

Good job devil dog.


Posted by singinrick at 11:14 AM


Why would you say that no investigation is needed. Did you not read the article? Who is devil dog? Are you trying to insult me? I have not defamed or insulted you. The article and many others like them conserning this are of relevance to the American people. The American people deserve answers on this and the no bid contract. It is our tax dollars that are funding the no bid contract. Where is your logic in stating that no investigation is needed. Be impartial to political ideology and examine the situation for what it is?
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by formrusmcsgt February 23, 2007 2:14 PM EST
Seems you have a problem with victory over them as well.
Posted by singinrick at 11:06 AM : Feb 23, 2007

I have no problem with vanquishing the insurgency from my own personal perspective.

But that does not override my understanding that a standing army will never quell religious hatred.

I would love to see a vicory so our troops could come home with glory. But the fact of the matter is that they are being asked to win a victory where no victory is achievable.
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by radiob-2009 February 23, 2007 2:13 PM EST
Haliburton and Cheney actions have nothing do with God. No one can make those actions about God, to do so is a insult to God which anyone who has even casually study religion would know.
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by formrusmcsgt February 23, 2007 2:11 PM EST
Gee, tactics from a seargent. A LIB seargent no less. God bless the U.S. military and keep up the good work!
Posted by mbcsmith at 11:05 AM : Feb 23, 2007

I don't know if this is offered tongue-in-cheek or not, but I will point out that in the Marine Corps at least, NCO's are trained in military strategy and tactics and are expected to be competent strategists/tacticians as they are the first level of command of a good number of men.

And they are expected to be able to effectively execute should they not have access to the higher elements of the command structure.
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by formrusmcsgt February 23, 2007 2:07 PM EST
So how about it Singinrick? Why not an investigation?
Posted by radiob at 11:04 AM : Feb 23, 2007

Allow me to try and predict the response, if you get one, radiob.

Rick will say that no investigation is required because Bush knows what's best for America as he is directed by God and God is infallible.
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by radiob-2009 February 23, 2007 2:07 PM EST
Everyone should be able to unite on this if there interest is the interest of the US and not their own.
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