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Bombings Kill Dozens In Deadliest Attacks Since Security Crackdown

[gladys_over]

One of Bush's college professors said at the time that he pitied the shareholders of any corporation Bush ever became a member of.

I cited that Social Security quote just to illustrate the confused mental processes of a recovering alcoholic, West Texas demagogue who should never have advanced beyong local politics, if that.

[gladys_over]

Teddy Roosevelt bashed his Commander-in-Chief (Woodrow Wilson) as incompetent during wartime (World War I).

Surprising to hear TR quoted by a Dubya backer who defines such criticism as "treason."

[scott4261]

Gladys_Over,

When we have a thread on SS, I'll comment at length, but suffice to say that Bush would rather the benefit didn't exist at all and that his failed plans were a means to that end.

[scott4261]

I made sure that I got this quote exactly right:

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin

[gladys_over]

Here are the words of the man who planned the war in Iraq:

Dubya on Social Security:

"Because the%u2014all which is on the table begins to address the big cost drivers. For example, how benefits are calculate, for example, is on the table; whether or not benefits rise based upon wage increases or price increases. There's a series of parts of the formula that are being considered. And when you couple that, those different cost drivers, affecting those%u2014changing those with personal accounts, the idea is to get what has been promised more likely to be%u2014or closer delivered to what has been promised. Does that make any sense to you? It's kind of muddled. Look, there's a series of things that cause the%u2014like, for example, benefits are calculated based upon the increase of wages, as opposed to the increase of prices. Some have suggested that we calculate%u2014the benefits will rise based upon inflation, as opposed to wage increases. There is a reform that would help solve the red if that were put into effect. In other words, how fast benefits grow, how fast the promised benefits grow, if those%u2014if that growth is affected, it will help on the red." - George W. Bush, explaining his plan to save Social Security, Tampa, Fla., Feb. 4, 2005

Source: http://slate.msn.com/id/76886

[scott4261]

Randi Rhodes was playing this clip from Bush last week on her Air America radio show:
"Money trumps ... um ... peace, sometimes (cackled laughter)."

That about says it all....and right from the horse's mouth!

[gladys_over]

lars008 omitted a Teddy Roosevelt quote that really applies to Dubya and his supporters.

TR told one politician who was blaming his critics for everything that had gone wrong:

"If you could give a good kick in the pants to the man responsible for most of your troubles, you wouldn't be able to sit down for a week."

[gladys_over]

Where are all the Bush supporters who were declaring victory after one day of "The Surge" ?

[gladys_over]

RE: "And this crowning pearl of wisdom:

"No question that the enemy has tried to spread sectarian violence. They use violence as a tool to do that." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., March 22, 2006" - formrusmcsgt
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At first they tried lovingkindness and meekness as tools to spread violence, but the results were disappointing.

...And in other news, doctors in Denmark reported today that pretzel consumption has been linked to severe mental retardation in West Texas demagogues.

[jerr11]

lars008,

Thanks for all the great quotes!

All the best, buddy!

[jerr11]

The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life. Theodore Roosevelt
Posted by lars008 at 08:54 PM : Feb 18, 2007

Yep, I am sure Tom Delay, Duke Cunningham, Mark Foley and all the rest of the neoconmen can relate to this! Ha ha

[jerr11]

"...the man who really counts in the world is the doer, " (1891) Theodore Roosevelt
Posted by lars008 at 11:42 AM : Feb 18, 2007

Yeah! Like hiding out in the jungles of Alabama when others were fighting the war for them or sending your two kids to party while sending other people's kids to fight and die for you!

What a doer!

[jerr11]

"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood,. Theodore Roosevelt"

Yeah, it's real sweaty in the arena of the white house these days, dusty and bloody too!

This President deserves our great admiration for staying the course when others would cut and run.

Like I said, this war is a no brainer! Just send other people's kids to war while you defend the white house! It's almost as hard as defending Alabama from the Vietcongs!

[lars008-2009]

I would rather go out of politics feeling that I had done what was right than stay in with the approval of all men, knowing in my heart that I had acted as I ought not to. - Speech to the New York Assembly 1884 Theodore Roosevelt

Avoid the base hypocrisy of condemning in one man what you pass over in silence when committed by another. - Cambridge, Massachusetts March 11, 1890 Theodore Roosevelt

[lars008-2009]

%u201CIt is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.%u201D Theodore Roosevelt

"...the man who really counts in the world is the doer, not the mere critic-the man who actually does the work, even if roughly and imperfectly, not the man who only talks or writes about how it ought to be done." (1891) Theodore Roosevelt

"Criticism is necessary and useful; it is often indispensable; but it can never take the place of action, or be even a poor substitute for it. The function of the mere critic is of very subordinate usefulness. It is the doer of deeds who actually counts in the battle for life, and not the man who looks on and says how the fight ought to be fought, without himself sharing the stress and the danger." (1894) Theodore Roosevelt

[lars008-2009]

The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life. Theodore Roosevelt

[wayfedup]

You took an oath to defend our flag and our freedom, and you kept that oath underseas and under fire." --George W. Bush, addressing war veterans, Washington, D.C., Jan. 10, 2006

Posted by formrusmcsgt at 06:57 PM : Feb 18, 2007

All I can say Sarge, is that the man is one h*ELL OF A PUBLIC SPEAKER!:-)

[firststate]

Comfort to the enemy is an interesting phrase. It's been used before, by a Republican, in fact, by "Mr. Republican," Robert A. Taft, who was speaking against the Roosevelt administration.
He said, "As a matter of general principle, I believe there can be no doubt that criticism in
time of war is essential to the maintenance of any kind of democratic government ... too many people desire to suppress criticism simply because they think that it will give some comfort to the enemy to know that there is such criticism. If that comfort makes the enemy feel better for a few moments, they are welcome to it
as far as I am concerned, because the maintenance of the right of criticism in the long run will do the country maintaining it a great deal more good than it will do the enemy, and will prevent mistakes which might otherwise occur."

These remarks were in a speech just twelve days after Pearl Harbor was attacked. He also said to the president, "We will question, we will probe, we will debate." We had just been attacked. The Japanese were known to be the attackers. Yet today's republicans object to questioning a war that was started under false assertions, was undermanned, has been mismanaged and has deteriorated into civil war.

[formrusmcsgt]

Considering the following stats, how can supporters of this invasion/occupation contend that we are making progress and that more investment is justified?

US Dead 3/03-2/04 518

US Dead 3/04-2/05 947

US Dead 3/05-2/06 789

US Dead 3/06-2/07 803

[formrusmcsgt]

More Bush brilliance:

"People don't need to worry about security. This deal wouldn't go forward if we were concerned about the security for the United States of America." --George W. Bush, on the deal to hand over U.S. port security to a company operated by the United Arab Emirates, Washington, D.C., Feb. 23, 2006

"I like my buddies from west Texas. I liked them when I was young, I liked them then I was middle-age, I liked them before I was president, and I like them during president, and I like them after president." --George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Feb. 1, 2006

"He was a state sponsor of terror. In other words, the government had declared, you are a state sponsor of terror." --George W. Bush, on Saddam Hussein, Manhattan, Kan., Jan. 23, 2006

"I'll be glad to talk about ranching, but I haven't seen the movie. I've heard about it. I hope you go -- you know -- I hope you go back to the ranch and the farm is what I'm about to say." --George W. Bush, after being asked whether he's seen Brokeback Mountain, Manhattan, Kan., Jan. 23, 2006

"You took an oath to defend our flag and our freedom, and you kept that oath underseas and under fire." --George W. Bush, addressing war veterans, Washington, D.C., Jan. 10, 2006