Comments on: Bush: No 'Graceful Exit' From Iraq

Al-Maliki Says Iraqi Forces Will Be 'Fully Ready' By June, But Bush Rejects Talk Of A Timetable

[jsilver2th]

some where over the rainbow...

[feelfree1]

http://petitiontoimpeach.com

[patriotic9]

radiob
I gotcha.I read it again.You are right.Both of em are not options.

[radiob-2009]

patriotic9 I never suggested that we pack up our bags and leave.Read my post more carefully and you will see that I do not beleive that cut and run or stay the course are viable options.

[agnim]

"Bush: No 'Graceful Exit' From Iraq "

Rubbish from an unthinking brain.

CUTTING OUR LOSSES IS A VALID EXIT STRATEGY!

Sacrificing more American lives and limbs for a lying and worthless cause in a god forsaken and insane islamist hell hole IS disgraceful!

[aeasus]

Chaos is a tool, used to manipulate the flow of power and money.

[patriotic9]

People don't ocme to the power only by votes of the people.Fund raising is also a very important part of any election campaign.Average people can't do a lot of fund raising but big corporates like OIL COMPANIES,PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRIES are the major contributors.When somebody becomes President by the help of those big businesses,he definately has to take care of them in return.If an investigation hurts the those strong lobbies,do you think the President can ignore them when their money was used to bring him to power?

[jn122736]

For some reason the same accusation keeps coming back. %u201CThe democrats want to lose the war in Iraq.%u201D

They cannot lose a war that has already been lost. As a matter of fact Bush has not only lost the war but is now going to great extremes to try to find ways to avoid accepting responsibility for the loss.
..It has been his plan all along to simply pass the problem along to the next administration. However his house of cards is crumbling faster than his time left in office is expiring.

Another thing that amazes me is how everybody keeps implying the success of the hijacked planes hitting the WTC towers was such an extraordinary accomplishment. The only training required was learning to fly the plane after it is airborne. The reason the hijackers achieved their objective was because the policy for handling hijackings at that time was to offer little or no resistance until the plane was safely on the ground.

Hearing about suicide bombers setting off explosive belts, killing people in Israel didn%u2019t translate into a group or groups of hijackers using jet liners to fly into skyscrapers. The same tactic would not succeed now.

[aeasus]

I don't believe enough investigation has been done to rule that possibility out! Which is just another question.

[patriotic9]

radiob
I know it was not right to invade Iraq based on lies but we are in a situation where we can't leave Iraq that easily.We have turned a Secular Country into a RADICAL ISLAMIC STATE.I know Iraqis can take care of themselves but will that be a good thing for us.Whoever is elected or will be elected in the future will be a RADICAL ISLAMIST.Majority of Iraqis are very extremist SHIAs or SUNNIs.Shias in Iraq are more extremist then Shias in Iran as the two holiest places of Shia mulims namely NAJAF and KARBALA are in IRAQ.We hear too much about Saddam killing his own people.We were not told that he killed his own people because they wanted to establish a RADICAL ISLAMIC STATE.Iraq is next to Iran,Syria is next to Iraq,Lebanon is next to Syria.If we leave Iraq now,the whole region will be changed into an ISLAMIC EMPIRE under the COMMANDS of those AYATOLLAHs who consider us the GREATEST SATAN and who are waiting for their final MESSIAH named IMAM MEHDI about who they believe that he is gonna kill all the INFIDELS.The execution of a CHRISTIAN LEADER in LEBANON is the part of the plan.We can bring christian,jews and other non-muslims from MIDDLE EAST to USA and EUROPE,but if those AYATOLLAHs get the control of all the oil fields there,we'll be totally screwed.

[patriotic9]

Aeasus
You have the right to be suspicious.If your suspicion is right then it means the Rich people are playing a game to make poors of different countries,religions and cultural backgrounds fight against each other to make OIL RICH richer whether they are OIL SHEIKHS from Saudi Arabia or OIL COMPANIES OWNERS in our own country.But my heart and mind doesn't want to accept that.How bad an American may be,can't cause deaths and distructions upto that much extent to his fellow Americans to increase his wealth.

[radiob-2009]

patriotic9 Read two books THE PRICE OF LOYALTY and AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, both are written by republicans and have never been rebuked.Neither book gives a definitive answer as to why we invaded Iraq.However, they do give one some insight as to Bush's thinking or lack of.There are many damning statemnets about Bush and Iraq.The real reasons for invading may never be known, at this point in time if anyone still beleives that Bin Laden or Al Queda had anything to do with the invasion of Iraq then they obviously have not been keeping themselves informed.Iraq since the invasion has become a moral issue for resolving the instability of the goverment.The old saying "you broke it, you fix it" comes to mind.I have never supported this war and still do not for the dubious reasons that we went in for.Now if for no other reason than a moral obligation to redress this war we must with the aid of others bring about a successful conclusion that allows the Iraqis to have a stable goverment.The people of Iraq have their own obligation to their country to heal its wounds and move towards a goverment that supports all of it's citizens.

[aeasus]

patriotic9,

Anyway,if somebody thinks that he doesn't control international terrorism,then why did we start this war to capture him DEAD OR ALIVE.
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Seeing how the United States NATIONAL DEBT is now 8.6 trillion. I believe I have my suspicions.

http://brillig.com/debt_clock/

[patriotic9]

Aeasus
Good point.That's a mystery.Where ever he may be,his escape from TORA BORA was one of the greatest mistakes this administration has commited.I was so pissed to read in the book THE AMERICAN SOLDIER written by GEN.Tommy franks,that when OSAMA BEEN FORGOTTEN was in Afghanistan,Bush and Co. didn't send enough troops there because they were more concerned about sending troops to Iraq which had nothing to do with 9/11.
Anyway,if somebody thinks that he doesn't control international terrorism,then why did we start this war to capture him DEAD OR ALIVE.

[aeasus]

Do you really think a man living in a cave,that's so deep noone can find him,is responsible for controlling international terror?

[patriotic9]

jw218389
What about that saudi guy OSAMA BEEN FORGOTTEN?Didn't we start this war to capture him DEAD OR ALIVE?Does anybody think we can capture OSAMA BEEN FORGOTTEN from IRAQ?How and why we ended up in Iraq while OSAMA BEEN FORGOTTEN was not captured from TORA BORA because of not having enough boots on the ground

[jw218389]

Bush: No 'Graceful Exit' From Iraq

Wow, the Chimp Idiot finally said something we can all agree with.

Maybe he'll think twice before invading Iran??

We should be invading his Saudi friends - they are the real funding source of radical religious terrorism...

[aeasus]

jimibear,
it's already happening...look at this....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Commissions_Act

The Act has also been denounced by critics who assert that its wording makes possible the permanent detention and torture (as defined by the Geneva Conventions) of anyone - including American citizens - based solely on the decision of the President.[20] Indeed, the wording of section 948b[21] of the act appears to explicitly contradict the Third Geneva Convention of which the United States is currently a signatory.

This was cut and pasted from Wikipedia.org

[patriotic9]

jimibear
"Bush doesn't give a *** about freedom"
According to CNN today,Bush administration is thinking of make a change in the first amendment of the constitution and to take the right of freedom of speech away from the citizens.
That'll be the greatest success for alqaeda and american enemies around the globe.We invaded other countries to establish freedom and democracy there and in that effort we are losing freedom in our own country.

[bushrocks1]

Would I send my son to this war? You might ask would I send him to World War II? Or Vietnam? Maybe you would distinguish those conflicts and whether you would send your son to fight in them. But that question is misdirected in a very important way: I can't command my son to go to war. He has to make that choice. So the better question would be: would I volunteer to fight in Iraq, WW II, Vietnam? Would I volunteer to fight in any war? Respond if drafted? I don%u2019t know. I'm not equivocating, only addressing that it is a hypothetical. To a hypothetical, I can answer, sure I'd fight. But I have nightmares of battle (from my past life as a Jacobite). So how do I feel toward those who do volunteer? Impressed and maturely knowing that many things go into their decision. But I do strongly believe that a country that can't find those men is doomed. The fact that we can find them is one reason why I say there is no failure in Iraq. Objectively, I also believe it for other reasons. An attempt to establish democracy in the Middle East is a bold, brilliant, noble effort, facing a high chance of failure. That's why I greatly respect and admire those who have made the attempt--the Bush administration. They have been resolute, something I have not seen in my lifetime. They may not succeed, for reasons outside their control or fault: traitors on the home front being a big one. Now those traitors have apparently occupied the high ground. Yet... we're still in Iraq. Why?...I'm waiting.