Comments on: U.N. Extends Iraq Mandate

Security Council Authorizes 160,000-Member Multinational Force To Stay Another Year

[agnim]

"...are you actually trying to stipulate that the Jews are responsible for the past attempts on their own annihilation?"

diverinnl at 12:37 PM : Nov 28, 2006

Those who are responsible for attempts at Jewish annihilation ARE RESPONSIBLE for their actions!
There should be no doubt about that.

That was why I used the word "German and evil European", say. It is ALWAYS evil to murder and mass humans, ALWAYS!

However, even the Jews have it clearly written in their writings,

"What you sow you shall surely reap".
That is the Law of Karma, which is ALWAYS in force, even for those who delude themselves that they are somehow a 'chosen people'.

Fortunately for us, the Jews have kept hundreds of generations of their history, from which we can see the clear pattern of their 'sowing and reaping'.

Coming out of Egypt the Jews ethnically cleansed the region to create their first israel.
That was the Jewish 'sowing seeds' of ethnic cleansing, which they will eventually 'reap' later.

The Jews were later ethnically cleansed from the region by the Babylonians, Persians, Romans, say. That was the 'reaping' from the 'seeds' of ethnic cleansing 'seeds' sown earlier by the Jews.

This IS NOT to say that what the Persians, Babylonians, Romans, Europeans did to the Jews was right. No!

However, right or wrong, the wheel of KARMA turns!'

[vamecegr]

Would I send my son to this war? You might ask would I send him to WW II? Or Vietnam? Maybe you would distinguish those conflicts and whether you would send your son to fight in them. But that question is misdirected in a very important way: I can't command my son to go to war. He has to make that choice. So the better question would be: would I volunteer to fight in Iraq, WW II, Vietnam? Would I volunteer to fight in any war? Respond if drafted? I don%u2019t know. I'm not equivocating, only addressing that it is a hypothetical. To a hypothetical, I can answer, sure I'd fight. But I have nightmares of battle (from my past life as a pansy democrat). So how do I feel toward those who do volunteer? Impressed and maturely knowing that many things go into their decision. But I do strongly believe that a country that can't find those men is doomed. The fact that we can find them is one reason why I say there is no failure in Iraq. Objectively, I also believe it for other reasons. An attempt to establish democracy in the Middle East is a bold, brilliant, noble effort, facing a high chance of failure. That's why I greatly respect and admire those who have made the attempt--the Bush administration. They have been resolute, something I have not seen in my lifetime. They may not succeed, for reasons outside their control or fault: traitors on the home front being a big one.
******** you sux. reading your words makes me want to puke

V/R

[vamecegr]

Would I send my son to this war? You might ask would I send him to WW II? Or Vietnam? Maybe you would distinguish those conflicts and whether you would send your son to fight in them. But that question is misdirected in a very important way: I can't command my son to go to war. He has to make that choice. So the better question would be: would I volunteer to fight in Iraq, WW II, Vietnam? Would I volunteer to fight in any war? Respond if drafted? I don%u2019t know. I'm not equivocating, only addressing that it is a hypothetical. To a hypothetical, I can answer, sure I'd fight. But I have nightmares of battle (from my past life as a pansy democrat). So how do I feel toward those who do volunteer? Impressed and maturely knowing that many things go into their decision. But I do strongly believe that a country that can't find those men is doomed. The fact that we can find them is one reason why I say there is no failure in Iraq. Objectively, I also believe it for other reasons. An attempt to establish democracy in the Middle East is a bold, brilliant, noble effort, facing a high chance of failure. That's why I greatly respect and admire those who have made the attempt--the Bush administration. They have been resolute, something I have not seen in my lifetime. They may not succeed, for reasons outside their control or fault: traitors on the home front being a big one.
******** you sux. reading your words makes me want to puke

V/R

[bushrocks1]

Would I send my son to this war? You might ask would I send him to WW II? Or Vietnam? Maybe you would distinguish those conflicts and whether you would send your son to fight in them. But that question is misdirected in a very important way: I can't command my son to go to war. He has to make that choice. So the better question would be: would I volunteer to fight in Iraq, WW II, Vietnam? Would I volunteer to fight in any war? Respond if drafted? I don%u2019t know. I'm not equivocating, only addressing that it is a hypothetical. To a hypothetical, I can answer, sure I'd fight. But I have nightmares of battle (from my past life as a Jacobite). So how do I feel toward those who do volunteer? Impressed and maturely knowing that many things go into their decision. But I do strongly believe that a country that can't find those men is doomed. The fact that we can find them is one reason why I say there is no failure in Iraq. Objectively, I also believe it for other reasons. An attempt to establish democracy in the Middle East is a bold, brilliant, noble effort, facing a high chance of failure. That's why I greatly respect and admire those who have made the attempt--the Bush administration. They have been resolute, something I have not seen in my lifetime. They may not succeed, for reasons outside their control or fault: traitors on the home front being a big one. Now those traitors have apparently occupied the high ground. Yet... we're still in Iraq. Why?...I'm waiting.

[diverinnl]

Agnim, your points are, to put it bluntly, absurd. Please correct me if I'm misunderstanding you but are you actually trying to stipulate that the Jews are responsible for the past attempts on their own annihilation? The Egyptians, Romans, Nazi's, and Islamic extremists are not accountable for their attempts at mass extermination of an entire race of people?

[pendragon679]

bushrocks1, go home, please; your mommy's calling you.

[pendragon679]

"What other disaster of great magnitude are the Jews blamed for?"

Uh...if I remember my basic theology correctly, Jesus was born of Jewish (Hebrew) parents. Therefore, the Jews can be blamed for a "disaster of great magnitude" called Christianity.

[agnim]

If the biblically blinded US really want to help the 'chosen people', then we should help the Jews pay attention to the HUMANITY around them; because their jehovah will NEVER EVER be able to save the Jews from karma they continue to foolishly earn by their unending ethnic cleansing.

All the Semites can share the space, which they for idiotic reasons deem important to them.
Our role should be to help them find their common Semitic ground.

The US role should not be to mindlessly follow middle east maniacs to further threaten world peace.

Because of their historical focus on learning, the Jews are relatively smart people; and they are plying the lesser endowed Americans like a fiddle in a deadly opera with destructive global consequences.

[patriotic9]

That's why we went to Iraq.Saddam was not only sunni but also a SECULAR guy who had a CATHOLIC FOREING MINISTER and females in his cabinet.Also at the time of Saddam,it was mandatory for both boys and girls to go to schools and the IRAQIs used to be one of the best,doctors,scientists,etc in the middle east.Religious education were banned and EXTREMISTS used to be prosecuted.United States has removed SADDAM from power and as a result of DEMOCRACY those RADICAL EXTREMIST SHIAs have been brought into power who are dreaming for an EXTREMIST ISLAMIC EMPIRE form IRAN in the EAST to LEBANON in the WEST ruled under those AYATOLLAHs who call us THE GREATES SATAN.Most of the people in the MIDDLE EAST don't care about race or country but they do care about their religious affiliations.It's very clear that not only IRAQI SHIA insurgents were trained by HEZBOLLAH but HIZBOLLAH might also has got weapons from IRAQI SECURITY FORCE(I think other people also might have seen the news of so many weapons given to the IRAQI SECURITY FORCE by UNITED STATES are missing and unaccounted for)The only people who got benifited from this war are ISLAMIC RADICALS,ARAB OIL BUSINESSMEN and OIL COMPANY OWNERS in OUR COUNTRY.And what about OSAMA BEEN FORGOTTEN.Didn't we start this war to capture him DEAD or ALIVE?

[diverinnl]

That is a good point Ozilot. Renewable energy sources benefit us financially as well as being beneficial to our environment. Unfortunately, the oil lobby has and has always had a HUGE influence in our government and I don't see a substantial federal push for investing in alternate energy research and development. It needs to get stronger than grass roots.

[diverinnl]

Agnim, could I get some clarification? You stated:

"The Jews need to realize that unless they curb their selfishness and hateful ethnic cleansing and allow for sharing of the space with their fellow Semites who are also indigenous to the region, then they will again be blamed for yet another disaster of great magnitude."

What other disaster of great magnitude are the Jews blamed for?

[diverinnl]

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[agnim]

Instead of using its power, prestige, and influence to pacify the middle east by helping those violent clowns to find common ground, the US has foolishly allowed itself to be mindlessly mislead by Jewish selfishness.

Now we are making the region even more inflamed instead of less inflamed. It's a dam shame!

The Jews need to realize that unless they curb their selfishness and hateful ethnic cleansing and allow for sharing of the space with their fellow Semites who are also indigenous to the region, then they will again be blamed for yet another disaster of great magnitude.

As a result of conditioning to biblical bull, Americans continue to be dragged mindlessly and slavishly to destruction in the Middle East, in a vain attempt to save the 'chosen people'.

If their jehovah has not been able to save them, but instead seems to have made the Jews UNFRIENDLY, STUBBORN, and SELFISH about a piece of space that IS NOT theirs alone, then the US is wasting its time, and is creating problems for itself at home and abroad.

[diverinnl]

Where we failed in Iraq is by not inviting the moderate Governments in the Middle East to advise us in the development of a new government in Iraq. Had we brought in advisors from Qatar, Yemen, UAE, Kuwait, Oman, Jordan, etc., it would have given us much better insight on an effective new government AND added legitimacy to the new government. Talabani is working so hard at not being seeing as a western puppet, that he is in essence fueling a bad situation.

[olebd]

Well if this is true, ain't it great that the good old USA allows Hezbollah to operate charters across our country???

[rsoxfan1123]

Iran is shiite controlled and is 90% shiite. the middle east is organized along religious lines more so than territorial. since Iraq's current governemnt that we put in power is shiite, it is a matter of time until they become Iran's ally. If Iran is our enemy, Iraq will be one day as well. that is the government our troops are losing limbs and lives to create, by the way. the last thing iran wants is a stable sunni government next door to them. with hussein in power (he was a sunni) it formed a balance of power between Iran and Iraq.

[getcentered]

This war in Iraq is EXACTLY what the experts (the CIA, Pentagon) said it was going to be.

Fools rush in and that is what we did going into Iraq, so calling the people wanting this war stupid or arrogant fits the bill just fine.

GW Bush has nothing to do with the way the military is going to employ tactics, so DO NOT believe to him when he tells us he is going to do something about what is happening in Iraq.

The military commanders do not want unnecessary deaths, but right now, they are on the ground in Iraq, by order of the President. People are dying all around our troops and they cannot do much about it. They do not know why they are there, or why the people in Iraq started killing each other.

If the experts said it would be this way, why did we not take the time to create a better plan? I think I know part of the reasons: "politics". The party wanting this war needed it to BEGIN quickly or it might never come to pass.

How unfortunate for our brothers and sisters in the military that they can be wasted along side of Iraqi people without a known, true and just cause.

[bob_burd]

And who trained Hezbollah? Iran and Syria, who are now eager to "help out" in Iraq.

It is these two countries, along with the ever-odious al Qaeda, who have destabilized Iraq and the middle east, not America.

If America were to leave there now, the entire middle east region would be in trouble with Iran, Syria and al Qaeda having free run of the place. Several other regional nations, such as Jordan and the Saudis, realize that. Try and convince the typical man on the street, however, who run around howling "we give our blood and our souls for Allah! God is great....." blah blah blah.

Selah

[frankly6]

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[aeasus]

Now here is some startling news flash....
Iran is backing a militia to destablize American interest!!
maybe they are still upset about this...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran
Regardless of this setback, the covert operation soon went into full swing, conducted from the US Embassy in Tehran under the leadership of Kermit Roosevelt, Jr.. Agents were hired to facilitate violence; and, as a result, protests broke out across the nation. Anti- and pro-monarchy protestors violently clashed in the streets, leaving almost three hundred dead. The operation was successful in triggering a coup, and within days, pro-Shah tanks stormed the capital and bombarded the Prime Minister's residence. Mossadegh surrendered, and was arrested on 19 August 1953. He was tried for treason.