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by sunshine_2 November 17, 2006 9:07 PM EST
gaye5

" ......and the quran say's that they are not allowed to be our friends (unless it is to convert us) because we are infidels, mohammad's orders are to destroy all who will not submitt until the WHOLE world is for Allah... "

Please Provide me with your research refference points in the Quran that Support Your "Convert or Death" religious view of muslim's towards others. Where can You cite such views.
As I understand it, your view is of the "ratical-fundalmentalist-interpertations", not the Quran or it's broader religious following. But I am always willibng to be better informed.
Maybe it is like saying the Bible say " .... " but it is actually someons "fringe" interpertation. But I'm ready for some better understanding or new information that is fact based. Even though my Christian beliefs still would not allow me to Support Wiping them out, just because they have a flawed beliefe.
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by sunshine_2 November 17, 2006 8:53 PM EST
Tinker3478

It may be the Presidents way of determining the fate of Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.
Any time Our Leader has Steped up to Support or stand with, beside or encourage somebody ... that person later resigned, was fired or did not get re-elected. Look at the 2006 Elections, mot os the Republicans that did get re-eclectd avoided any public press coverage with Mr. Bush. What happended to FIMA's Leader within a day after the "Your Doning A Great Job Brownie"? Before the 2006 Elections, Bush swore to "Remain Steadfast wiht Rommy, following the Election results being known he had Rommy resign the next day. The more he backs the Prime Minister the more "Political Clout" this guy loses, adn the weaker the President looks for backing a man whocant get the Militia to Dis Arm adn bring some proportion of peace.
Does this mean The Prime Ministe's fate is also, soon to be doomed?
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by gaye5 November 17, 2006 8:49 PM EST
FeelFree1.... I am sorry to inform you but you are wrong.
however I do agree that it is well and truely time for us to get out of Iraq, I dont hear any news of Iraqis helping find our men etc and it appears that they dont want us there and hate our guts... Muslims hate us and the quran say's that they are not allowed to be our friends (unless it is to convert us) because we are infidels, mohammad's orders are to destroy all who will not submitt until the WHOLE world is for Allah... and once their numbers and weapons are enough to do so, they will do so.
Our leaders and the media should read the last three quarters of the quran and others of their holy books to see what we are up against. The first part of the quran is pretty much like other religious books, talking of peace, however once their numbers grew to become a force, allah changed his mind and it became revengeful.. We have to realise that there cannot be any moderate muslims, the quran says that if they dont go to war then they are called they are counted as apostates and are also slaughtered... but as the media is totally left we have to realise that we dont hear all the truth.
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by gaye5 November 17, 2006 8:48 PM EST
FeelFree1.... I am sorry to inform you but you are wrong.
however I do agree that it is well and truely time for us to get out of Iraq, I dont hear any news of Iraqis helping find our men etc and it appears that they dont want us there and hate our guts... Muslims hate us and the quran say's that they are not allowed to be our friends (unless it is to convert us) because we are infidels, mohammad's orders are to destroy all who will not submitt until the WHOLE world is for Allah... and once their numbers and weapons are enough to do so, they will do so.
Our leaders and the media should read the last three quarters of the quran and others of their holy books to see what we are up against. The first part of the quran is pretty much like other religious books, talking of peace, however once their numbers grew to become a force, allah changed his mind and it became revengeful.. We have to realise that there cannot be any moderate muslims, the quran says that if they dont go to war then they are called they are counted as apostates and are also slaughtered... but as the media is totally left we have to realise that we dont hear all the truth.
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by feelfree1 November 17, 2006 8:48 PM EST
ketch65,

I would like to suggest the 'Lincoln Group' and the 'Rand Corporation' for your list. They have provided massive propaganda support for the U.S. debacle in Iraq.
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by gaye5 November 17, 2006 8:48 PM EST
FeelFree1.... I am sorry to inform you but you are wrong.
however I do agree that it is well and truely time for us to get out of Iraq, I dont hear any news of Iraqis helping find our men etc and it appears that they dont want us there and hate our guts... Muslims hate us and the quran say's that they are not allowed to be our friends (unless it is to convert us) because we are infidels, mohammad's orders are to destroy all who will not submitt until the WHOLE world is for Allah... and once their numbers and weapons are enough to do so, they will do so.
Our leaders and the media should read the last three quarters of the quran and others of their holy books to see what we are up against. The first part of the quran is pretty much like other religious books, talking of peace, however once their numbers grew to become a force, allah changed his mind and it became revengeful.. We have to realise that there cannot be any moderate muslims, the quran says that if they dont go to war then they are called they are counted as apostates and are also slaughtered... but as the media is totally left we have to realise that we dont hear all the truth.
Getting letters from loved ones from our forces in Iraq, seem to paint a different picture, I would love to see letters from our returned soldiers, and see what is the truth...
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by ketch65 November 17, 2006 8:47 PM EST
********www.shadowcompanythemovie.com********

Yeah but I heard this was another conspiricy flic,, put out by the libs, dems and commies....!!

When Rush Limbaugh wakes up and salutes it I'll watch it, but until then, I'm nodding off with my El Rushitan....!!
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by gaye5 November 17, 2006 8:46 PM EST
FeelFree1.... I am sorry to inform you but you are wrong.
however I do agree that it is well and truely time for us to get out of Iraq, I dont hear any news of Iraqis helping find our men etc and it appears that they dont want us there and hate our guts... Muslims hate us and the quran say's that they are not allowed to be our friends (unless it is to convert us) because we are infidels, mohammad's orders are to destroy all who will not submitt until the WHOLE world is for Allah... and once their numbers and weapons are enough to do so, they will do so.
I just wish our leaders and the media would read the last three quarters of the quran and others of their holy books to see what we are up against and to see what they intend for us. The first part of thequran is pretty much like other religious books, talking of peace, however once their numbers grew to become a force, allah changed his mind and it became revengeful.. We have to realise that there cannot be any moderate muslims, the quran says that if they dont go to war then they are called they are counted as apostates and are also slaughtered... but as the media is totally left we have to realise that we dont hear all the truth.
Getting letters from loved ones from our forces in Iraq, seem to paint a different picture, I would love to see letters from our returned soldiers, and see what is the truth...
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by gaye5 November 17, 2006 8:46 PM EST
FeelFree1.... I am sorry to inform you but you are wrong.
however I do agree that it is well and truely time for us to get out of Iraq, I dont hear any news of Iraqis helping find our men etc and it appears that they dont want us there and hate our guts... Muslims hate us and the quran say's that they are not allowed to be our friends (unless it is to convert us) because we are infidels, mohammad's orders are to destroy all who will not submitt until the WHOLE world is for Allah... and once their numbers and weapons are enough to do so, they will do so.
I just wish our leaders and the media would read the last three quarters of the quran and others of their holy books to see what we are up against and to see what they intend for us. The first part of thequran is pretty much like other religious books, talking of peace, however once their numbers grew to become a force, allah changed his mind and it became revengeful.. We have to realise that there cannot be any moderate muslims, the quran says that if they dont go to war then they are called they are counted as apostates and are also slaughtered... but as the media is totally left we have to realise that we dont hear all the truth.
Getting letters from loved ones from our forces in Iraq, seem to paint a different picture, I would love to see letters from our returned soldiers, and see what is the truth...
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by ketch65 November 17, 2006 8:45 PM EST
Working conditions are harsh in Iraq....!

http://www.icasualties.org/oif/Civ.aspx
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by yvr_docfan November 17, 2006 8:41 PM EST
There is a very good documentary feature out now called "Shadow Company" that shows an unbiased/balanced view of private security contractors, and the doc has some fantastic film footage that was shot by PSC's "on the job" in Iraq. This documentary has been showed to some US Congress members this past spring in Washington, DC, and the doc is currently screening around the U.S., Canada and Europe. The films website has several clips available for viewing - www.shadowcompanythemovie.com
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by ketch65 November 17, 2006 8:40 PM EST
I think we should all work in Iraq.

http://www.jobline.net/jobiraq1.htm
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by feelfree1 November 17, 2006 8:40 PM EST
ketch65,

Thank you. Good job!
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by ketch65 November 17, 2006 8:36 PM EST
*******ketch65,

Thanks for the list. Source please?
Posted by FeelFree1 at 05:18 PM : Nov 17, 2006******

Oh, sorry, I'll post some links to where I found the companies, I don't think it's all of them, I'm still compiling the list....

I found a few "updated" lists via the web though....
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by ketch65 November 17, 2006 8:35 PM EST
My links won't come out properly, hmmmmmm...


http://www.laweekly.com/news/news/made-in-the-usa-part-iii-the-dishonor-roll/2889/
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by ketch65 November 17, 2006 8:34 PM EST
http://www.laweekly.com/news/news/made-in-the-usa-part-iii-the-dishonor-roll/2889/

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by ketch65 November 17, 2006 8:21 PM EST
What amazes me is that they haven't revealed the "hidden weapons of MASS DESTRUCTRUCTION" already.

Lord knows, all the presidents men have been working feverishly to hide them over there so they can discover them and say, "by gull, look we we done did foundediddiddid,,, we found these weapons here!!! tole ya so,"

Then everyone will weep across America for doubting, even some people who stand by the President during any and all inclement political weather,, and are unwavered in their steadfast support yet all the while knowing they smell a dirty dirty rat in the rice bag....!!!

There will be parades and expensive memorials, even a bust of the President thrusting a sword into the bust of Saddam, the famed butcher of baghdad,,, baby killa....!!!!!!

And everyone the world over will blush and weep, and live happily ever after.

Good nite..!!
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by feelfree1 November 17, 2006 8:18 PM EST
ketch65,

Thanks for the list. Source please?
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by feelfree1 November 17, 2006 8:15 PM EST
gaye5,

Re: "What else is in the sand hills or in other countries.."

Nothing significant has been found, despite several multi-million dollar efforts. Rumsfeld claimed that he "knew where they (WMD) were". He didn't, because there were none.

The war against Iraq is an illegal war of aggression, and is a notably among the most disgraceful moments in our nation's history.

I think that Bush will go down in history as the puppet-front-man for the greatest terrorist organization ever. The failures of the Bush regime and their collaborators are epic.
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by gaye5 November 17, 2006 8:14 PM EST
This is the last of the other two posts below... of course I cant post the pictures of the men and machines digging the planes out of the sand, but they were there, so why not weapons ....

While there are rumors of Iraqi chemical and biological weapons being shipped to nearby Syria, the weapons may very well still remain inside Iraq buried under the vast desert wastelands. Some critics of the Bush adminis-tration have claimed that the inability of U..S.. forces to uncover weapons of mass destruction is proof that the president misled the nation into the war with Iraq.
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