Comments on: Report: Iraq War Made Terror 'Worse'

Terrorism Has Spread Since U.S. Invasion, National Intelligence Estimate Finds

[fallngempire]

Normally I don't quote TV shows in my responses here, but there is a quote from a certain show that fits here: "It must be obvious day at camp stupid."

[terminalman1-2009]

Hey CBS grow some BALLS and show something like this, if you dare!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTMu99ooKcs

[exusmcsgt]

Another question for you stopneofatbs, how much treasure, how many warrior's lives, and how many years are you willing to invest in GWB's debacle?

$20 trillion dollars? 50,000 American dead? Another 30 years?

What's a reasonable price for you, Sir? Obviously we haven't reached your ceiling yet.

[patriotic9]

We need to understand that we cannot win this war unless we practice the constitution which forbids involvement of religion into politics by separating church from state,unless we start considering the intrest of the American people which is based on oil given to us by Arabs while making our internal and forieng policies.All these objectives cannot be met unless we openly deny the ILLEGITIMATE and UNJUSTIFIED EXISTANCE OF ISRAEL on the world map which is the main source of HATRED and TERRORISM against our nation.Unfortunately thsoe enemies of United States who consider Americans as GOD NEGLECTED and the EUROPEAN INVADERS IN PALESTINE as GOD CHOOSEN will not listen to what I said because they don't care about USA which is not a HOLY LAND and it's people who are not GOD CHOOSEN,and it's constitution which separates church from state.If we think we can win the war while being RACIST and UNJUST,we are not dreaming,we are hallucinating.

[exusmcsgt]

In regards to your list of "successes" in Afghanistan and Iraq stopneofatbs, you fail to acknowledge that Kharzai's government only controls Khabul after 5 years of our efforts with heroin production reaching all time record production and that the Iraqi government doesn't even control Baghdad after 3 1/2 years of effort.

[patriotic9]

All the human beings living in this world are GOD NEGLECTED PEOPLE because of not being born in a race choosen by GOD and that's why they have not been promised a single penny from GOD,whereas those EUROPEANS who were brought into Palestine after WWII are GOD CHOOSEN and have been promised a land in the Middle East.Human beings should not be treated on the basis of their actions but should be treated on the basis of the family they are born in or the race they belong to.This Ideology is called RACISM and INJUSTICE.
I am so surprised to know that those people who against RACISM and INJUSTICE,the enemies of United States consider them as NEO-NAZI.If I am a NEO NAZI because I believe that all human beings have been created equal.People are not GOD CHOOSEN or GOD NEGLECTED because of the race they belong to but are good or bad on the basis of their action,then the worst NEO NAZI was Sir Thomas Jafferson.

[exusmcsgt]

And I'll ask you this stopneofatbs: If you have children, would you be willing to sacrifice them in a failed endeavor?

If not, you have no right to expect others to do so.

[exusmcsgt]

Unfortunately stopneofatbs, your hero GWB has put us halfway into a swmp and left us with a choice between one of two alternatives. Continue to waste American treasure and lives in a doomed enterprise or not.

Either way, his stupidity has placed us here. At this point, the best we can do is insist that the Iraqi government do its part or we go. If they refuse to do it for themselves, we will never be able to do it for them regardless of how much treasure or how many warriors we waste on the endeavor.

[exusmcsgt]

Make apologies for not supporting $500,000,000,000.00 and 3,000 dead with nothing to show for it. Are you kidding?

[exusmcsgt]

stopneofatbs, you obviously feel empowered to tell one who was there how it really was even though you were not there yourself. I will not spend any more time attempting to defend reality to you, sir....it is obviously a concept that escapes you.

You elect to see things as you choose as opposed to how they really are....this is akin to arguing with a drunk.

[exusmcsgt]

In addition stopneofatbs,

You define the success of standing army tactics againt terrorists in terms of the terrorists not winning. Success is measured by the success of standing army tactics against terrorists in defeating terrorists which has not occurred in either case.

You obviously fail to understand the strategic nature of terrorism's task: that is, to fight another day. They do not need to defeat a standing army to succeed. They just need to be able to fight again tomorrow.

[exusmcsgt]

stopneofatbs-

Anyone who thinks that dropping an atomic weapon on a civilian population is not terrorism while arguing that flying aircraft into civilian targets is has a perspective that I can not even begin to fathom.

[joehawkinson]

enough with this cra*, this guy never answers any questions. watching TV sounds a better idea right now, let me watch how many of our soldiers and Iraqis were killed today. thanks to Bush&Co. bye bye stopneofatbs , I dont wish you well. :)

[exusmcsgt]

stopneofatbs-

As I stated earlier, the Phillipines and Colombia have been trying to defeat terrorism for 40 years without succes using your recommended strategy of standing army tactics. I believe that 4 decades without success attest to the fallacy of said approach.

[joehawkinson]

Hey stopnofatbs you say "They are NOT like us, and you'd better realize that soon enough." and pardon me but who are you? where do you live and what is your religion? since you are into religions right?

[exusmcsgt]

stopneofatbs-

You obviously were not in Viet Nam, Sir - I was. Bombing Hanoi would not have won the war. We could never have dropped enough bombs, even though we tried, to stop supplies coming down the Ho Chi Minh trail, which is what was strategically necessary to have won that war.

[joehawkinson]

OK now it makes sense, stopneofatbs reads a lot of Daniel Pipe(who is one of the most evil human beings alive). Who reads him a lot? I will not answer the question. you fill that in.

However why do you quote books as your reference or proof to your claims. Who cares about who wrote what. I thought governments were run on credible intelligence, not books some nutcase pulled out of his backside.

[exusmcsgt]

$500,000,000,000.00 and 3,000 dead without anything to show for it are facts as well,stopneofatbs.

[exusmcsgt]

stopneofatbs-

Your casting my position as "cut and run" is not quite correct. The first thing a Marine is taught is not to engage if you are doomed to loose. Obviously, GWB didn't make enough weekend drills to have learned that basic military strategy.

It would appear to me that you would be happy if we were still sending our warriors to die in Viet Nam's rice paddies. Obviously, 55,000 wasted lives were not enough for you, Sir.

[exusmcsgt]

Unfortunately joehawkinson, we are surrounded by those who seem to operate from a "don't confuse me with the facts" perspective. If the facts don't fit their perspective, the facts are wrong.

When religious extremism be it Christian, Jew, or Muslim, takes the wheel, logic and understanding are relegated to the back seat.....