They are not the real Jews anyway. They should not be living there. When the Lord comes back he will gather the scattered Jews. The real Jews dont't know who they are because of the curses.
So by Isreali logic all of America should be returned to the Native American tribes, and most of Europe to Rome. Does that sound right?
Also there is no proof that it is the City of David, and due to lack of proof or evidence, one can say that it is not. It could even be an Arabic city or Roman.
Fundamental religious people scare me from all regions, Islam Christian or Jewish, and I am religious I would think the lesson to be learned would be to stop fighting over the land after 3000 years, not to continue the same mistakes for eternity.
Finally Christians, Jews, and Muslims all worship Allah, the God of Abraham, only the new Testement is differnt in each case. Do you want to die and tell your God you spent your life killing and hating people who also love and worship him?
begovattp: Peace. I'm not saying that the right of conquest is an invalid variable of political existence. I'm saying that it is antiquated and barbaric. I'm asserting that The Zionist platform is unsustainable and will eventually drive both ethnocentric Arab and Jew into a fratricidal orgy that may pull in the entire world. In 1948 when the Zionist State was founded and misnomered Israel, a racist move like that was politically acceptable. But in a post civil rights world it is not. The world is careening unstoppably towards an international, universal code of ethics. Something like this must be put in place and enforced by The Collective World Community to insure that world wide modern technological war does not break out over egocentric foolishness. This universal code of ethics must be blind to power, wealth, race, ethnicity, nationality, gender and financial influence. It must not be blind, however, to the truth of any and every issue.
The world is evolving towards just such a code. Unfortunately, the barbarous way in which The Zionist state was created, and the unjust way in which the Zionist State is armed and aided by the world's lone super power, the country of my birth, is a formidable impediment to that code.
The Zionist State is a grotesque ethnocentric artificiality that was arbitrarily created against the indigenous population's wishes. Its cruel, violent tribal supremacist nature is a contradiction to The Sacred Universal Principles of Justice given by God for The Original Hebrews to incarnate and uphold. The entire region is revered reminder to the virtues of Faith, Unselfishness, Truth and Justice. And The Holy Land's historic temples of The One True God of Truth & Justice are considered sacrosanct to a huge percentage of earth's population. Yet, The creation of the Zionist State is a cruel, violent, tribal-supremacist contradiction to The Sacred Universal Principles of Justice given by God to The Original Hebrews (which these Zionists most certainly are not) to incarnate and uphold.
The Zionist State, misnomered as Israel, is an intractable impediment to humanity's eventual development of that long awaited universal code of human ethics that safeguards safety and justice for all, and it is shooting itself in the foot both spiritually and politically as it's losing friends all over the world and dragging The United States with it.
Therefore, I assert that the best thing that can happen is that the people of Israel must repent, submit and bear witness. The entire Zionist philosophy should be scrapped and the Hebrew concept of Shlema should be seriously and scientifically considered, as it is, in my opinion, the Hebrew equivalence of Islam. If that proves to be the case, Israel should join the Islamic community and make steps integrate peacefully into the International Muslim community. The issue can only be resolved in The Spirit of Submission To The Creator's Universal principles and values, not ethnocentric principles and values. God Help Us All. Oh Allah Bless Muhammad's Soul And Rain Down Peace On His Household. God Is Greater!
Would any holy Prophet (A), including Prophet Muhammad, (S) sanction exploding bombs in public places where women, old people, children and unarmed non combatants are going about their every day life as a tactic of retaliation?
Would the Holy Prophet Jacob give a secular, atheist zealot party license to shoot rockets into apartment buildings, carpet bomb civilian neighborhoods, and become the dominate party, dictating the political destiny of Israel's Children?
It is time to stop coveting the land known as Israel and start coveting the ideal of both Prophet Israel (A), and Prophet Ismaeel (A).
The Jewish people and all those who wish to see The Ideal of Israel once again live in the world must admit that the Zionist philosophy and methodology cannot achieve it. Neither can the Arabist philosophy establish righteous Muslim community in The Holy Land. If the alleged Children of Abraham refuse to submit, repent, and bear witness, they will foolishly stay the course. And staying on this course is most certainly not a good thing.
Both ethnocentrically possessed people are obviously and most definitely lost.
Fifty years of blood feuds shows that they are lost. Allowing a small, tribal, primitively ethnocentric political party, the Zionists, to build and stock pile nukes shows that nearly the whole world is lost.
Muslim religious men encouraging young Muslim men and women to blow themselves up in public places where unarmed women and children are liable to be the victims as a tactic of jihad shows that many of we Muslim are lost.
US presidents and their generals having the political will to deliberately planning courses of action that will promiscuously kill citizen non combatants, referring to this tragic strategic horror as collateral damage shows that we Americans are lost.
The same Americans who freed its slaves, enfranchised and empowered its women, struck down centuries of anti-civil rights legislation, allowed young dissidents to bring an unjust foreign war to a halt (Vietnam) putting the entire American military industrial complex to sleep for 20 years, and elected a half African Commander In Chief, is now openly calling itself an empire in its Zionist influenced (if not controlled) media.
THIS SHOWS THAT WE AMERICANS ARE NEARLY GOD DAMNED, IRREDEEMABLY LOST. So, if we all remain murderously wayward where in hell are we headed?
It is time to find our way and navigate towards sanity, reason, true humanitarian ruth, and God Blessed Justice. It is time to spiritually, socially, economically, politically, and militarily evolve.
The problems caused by supporting the backward, arbitrary, anti-democratic mind set that legitimized the creation of The Zionist State is plotting a course that is spiritually moving human nature towards a suicidal devolution of consciousness, conscience, and behavior.
Do we really want to enshrine and establish the might makes right philosophy of Rome, or The Caliphate, or Britain, or the New World Invaders in this nuclear age of artificial intelligence?
This is the issue that needs contemplation. YES ISRAEL HAS A RIGHT TO EXIST. Everything that exists has a right to do so. BUT ISRAEL'S STATUS QUO MUST SPIRITUALLY CHANGE TO FIT THE UNIVERSAL GOD-SENT HOLY METAPHOR OF ISRAEL WHICH IS HER TRUE, YET TO BE MANIFESTED DESTINY.
palistinians already have a home. Its called Jordan. Why not have the Arab states take their "brethren" in. They won't because they cause too much trouble.
Typical liberal video, one sided pro arab palestinian. They do not read history. There never was a country called palestine. There was a province called palestine and it was controlled by the Jews. The Jews controlled the area for thousands of years. It was Mohammad and his followers that pushed the Jews and Christians out of the area. When the Jews came back to the land they have every right to the property since they have been attacked over and over by the palestinians and the arab nations. Why doesnt Lesly talk to the palestinians who want to anniliate the Jewish state. They teach their children how to commit suicide and their maps do not show a shared land with the Jews. Why doesnt she aske the palestinians why they elected a terrorist organization. Shes sitting in an archeological dig of proof the Bible is accurate and belongs to the Jews yet she had blinders on her eyes.
Never have I seen such demonstrably (demonstrated below), blatant, ax-grinding, false propaganda from what was once a news group.
This 1886 photograph (http://www.netzarim.co.il/Museum/Sukkah02/Sukkah02Pix/Teimani%20Kfar%20Shiloakh%201886%20enhanced%20700x511.jpg) documents the founding (in 1884), on a bare hill, of Kfar Shiloakh by Teimani (Yemenite) Jews, identifiable in the photo by their peiyot. Yet, Ms. Stahl provided only a link to a blatantly Arab propaganda site lacking any scholarly validity that claims Arabs are "indigenous" to this photo documented, Jewish-founded Kfar Shiloakh, which was re-established by Yemenite Jews on the archeological site of ancient Ir David (City of David). Any responsible journalist would have linked to http://www.netzarim.co.il/Museum/Sukkah02/Sukkah02.htm#KfarShiloakh and www.cityofdavid.org.il/timeline_eng.asp
Kfar Shiloakh and Ir David date back millennia before Mohammed was even born and before the Romans expelled the Jews from our land and allowed Arabs to squat there and where they have since occupied indigenous Jewish land.
Based on their propagandist lies, they then claim Jews--the only truly indigenous people to the land--are "stealing" Arab-occupied land that, in fact, it is the Arabs, in collaboration with the Romans, who stole it from the Jews.
With tripe like that, it's no wonder that CBS has lost all of its credibility.
Congratulations on another progressive hack job on the situation and the truth. How about starting a story with an objective viewpoint for a change? To suggest that Israel's efforts to protect the city of Jerusalem and its history is unfair to the Palestinians is to deny the truth of the situation. The Palestinian Authority (Hamas) is pledged to the destruction of the Jewish state. How can there be a peaceful solution through dividing Jerusalem and handing control to a terrorist organization? to ignore this basic fact and pretend it doesn't enter into the equation makes this whole story a sham and another baseless attack on Israel. I remember when CBS and 60 minutes still had some shred of integrity. Leslie Stahl has no journalistic integrity.
Thanks to CBS and Lesley Stahl for honest reporting of the latest land-grab in Jerusalem. It's good to see more U.S. mainstream media challenging the old zionist hasbara. Clearly Lesley has an understanding of what Israel is up to and refused to be diverted from asking important questions, while the Israeli Jews she interviewed attempted to justify the ongoing ethnic cleansing of Palestine by use of the usual lies and propaganda.
On today's program on Jerusalem, Ms Stahl kept insisting that the Israeli settlements are obstacle to peace. Ms Stahl very conveniently forgot to mention what happened as results of Israel evacuating the Gaza settlements supposedly to promote peace. It resulted in a daily barrage of rockets by Hamas into Israel from the evacuated territories beside the fact that Hamas also destroyed the agricultural infra structure that Israel left behind instead of using it to grow vegetables and becoming self sufficient and non dependent on continuing donation for sustenance. The same results were seen when Israel evacuated the northern border with Lebanon and the area became staging ground for Hezbollah terrorist's attacks. It should be rather obvious that Israel should not yield again to appease the Western governments as it definitely doesn't promote peace but only provide additional staging areas for terrorist attacks against Israel.
The actions on the part of Hamas are reminiscent of the courageous and defiant acts by Jews in the Warsaw ghettos in the early 1940s where they were forced to live by a repressive and evil authority.
There is no coincidence oppressive regimes are falling throughout the Middle East. Laws of humanity and history demonstrate a Nazi Germany, Serbia, South Africa or Israel will eventually self correct and justice will prevail.
Actually, Israel has had stable borders when it has negotiated lateral peace deals with its neighbors as in the case of Egypt (1979) and Jordan (1995). It has not had peaceful borders when it has tried to unilaterally make its own "peace" in Gaza. So, you should stop with the terrorism rhetoric and just stick with the historical facts. The settlements are an obstacle to peace because it is hard to have confidence in your negotiating partner when he is evicting your people from their homes. This is just common sense. The real reason this story has angered people is because they know the entire world will vote to recognize a Palestinian state in September and only two countries will vote against it. How embarrassing it will be for the both of them.
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Also there is no proof that it is the City of David, and due to lack of proof or evidence, one can say that it is not. It could even be an Arabic city or Roman.
Fundamental religious people scare me from all regions, Islam Christian or Jewish, and I am religious I would think the lesson to be learned would be to stop fighting over the land after 3000 years, not to continue the same mistakes for eternity.
Finally Christians, Jews, and Muslims all worship Allah, the God of Abraham, only the new Testement is differnt in each case. Do you want to die and tell your God you spent your life killing and hating people who also love and worship him?
The world is evolving towards just such a code. Unfortunately, the barbarous way in which The Zionist state was created, and the unjust way in which the Zionist State is armed and aided by the world's lone super power, the country of my birth, is a formidable impediment to that code.
The Zionist State is a grotesque ethnocentric artificiality that was arbitrarily created against the indigenous population's wishes. Its cruel, violent tribal supremacist nature is a contradiction to The Sacred Universal Principles of Justice given by God for The Original Hebrews to incarnate and uphold. The entire region is revered reminder to the virtues of Faith, Unselfishness, Truth and Justice. And The Holy Land's historic temples of The One True God of Truth & Justice are considered sacrosanct to a huge percentage of earth's population. Yet, The creation of the Zionist State is a cruel, violent, tribal-supremacist contradiction to The Sacred Universal Principles of Justice given by God to The Original Hebrews (which these Zionists most certainly are not) to incarnate and uphold.
The Zionist State, misnomered as Israel, is an intractable impediment to humanity's eventual development of that long awaited universal code of human ethics that safeguards safety and justice for all, and it is shooting itself in the foot both spiritually and politically as it's losing friends all over the world and dragging The United States with it.
Therefore, I assert that the best thing that can happen is that the people of Israel must repent, submit and bear witness. The entire Zionist philosophy should be scrapped and the Hebrew concept of Shlema should be seriously and scientifically considered, as it is, in my opinion, the Hebrew equivalence of Islam. If that proves to be the case, Israel should join the Islamic community and make steps integrate peacefully into the International Muslim community. The issue can only be resolved in The Spirit of Submission To The Creator's Universal principles and values, not ethnocentric principles and values. God Help Us All. Oh Allah Bless Muhammad's Soul And Rain Down Peace On His Household. God Is Greater!
Would the Holy Prophet Jacob give a secular, atheist zealot party license to shoot rockets into apartment buildings, carpet bomb civilian neighborhoods, and become the dominate party, dictating the political destiny of Israel's Children?
It is time to stop coveting the land known as Israel and start coveting the ideal of both Prophet Israel (A), and Prophet Ismaeel (A).
The Jewish people and all those who wish to see The Ideal of Israel once again live in the world must admit that the Zionist philosophy and methodology cannot achieve it. Neither can the Arabist philosophy establish righteous Muslim community in The Holy Land. If the alleged Children of Abraham refuse to submit, repent, and bear witness, they will foolishly stay the course. And staying on this course is most certainly not a good thing.
Both ethnocentrically possessed people are obviously and most definitely lost.
Fifty years of blood feuds shows that they are lost. Allowing a small, tribal, primitively ethnocentric political party, the Zionists, to build and stock pile nukes shows that nearly the whole world is lost.
Muslim religious men encouraging young Muslim men and women to blow themselves up in public places where unarmed women and children are liable to be the victims as a tactic of jihad shows that many of we Muslim are lost.
US presidents and their generals having the political will to deliberately planning courses of action that will promiscuously kill citizen non combatants, referring to this tragic strategic horror as collateral damage shows that we Americans are lost.
The same Americans who freed its slaves, enfranchised and empowered its women, struck down centuries of anti-civil rights legislation, allowed young dissidents to bring an unjust foreign war to a halt (Vietnam) putting the entire American military industrial complex to sleep for 20 years, and elected a half African Commander In Chief, is now openly calling itself an empire in its Zionist influenced (if not controlled) media.
THIS SHOWS THAT WE AMERICANS ARE NEARLY GOD DAMNED, IRREDEEMABLY LOST. So, if we all remain murderously wayward where in hell are we headed?
It is time to find our way and navigate towards sanity, reason, true humanitarian ruth, and God Blessed Justice. It is time to spiritually, socially, economically, politically, and militarily evolve.
The problems caused by supporting the backward, arbitrary, anti-democratic mind set that legitimized the creation of The Zionist State is plotting a course that is spiritually moving human nature towards a suicidal devolution of consciousness, conscience, and behavior.
Do we really want to enshrine and establish the might makes right philosophy of Rome, or The Caliphate, or Britain, or the New World Invaders in this nuclear age of artificial intelligence?
This is the issue that needs contemplation. YES ISRAEL HAS A RIGHT TO EXIST. Everything that exists has a right to do so. BUT ISRAEL'S STATUS QUO MUST SPIRITUALLY CHANGE TO FIT THE UNIVERSAL GOD-SENT HOLY METAPHOR OF ISRAEL WHICH IS HER TRUE, YET TO BE MANIFESTED DESTINY.
Shes sitting in an archeological dig of proof the Bible is accurate and belongs to the Jews yet she had blinders on her eyes.
This 1886 photograph (http://www.netzarim.co.il/Museum/Sukkah02/Sukkah02Pix/Teimani%20Kfar%20Shiloakh%201886%20enhanced%20700x511.jpg) documents the founding (in 1884), on a bare hill, of Kfar Shiloakh by Teimani (Yemenite) Jews, identifiable in the photo by their peiyot. Yet, Ms. Stahl provided only a link to a blatantly Arab propaganda site lacking any scholarly validity that claims Arabs are "indigenous" to this photo documented, Jewish-founded Kfar Shiloakh, which was re-established by Yemenite Jews on the archeological site of ancient Ir David (City of David). Any responsible journalist would have linked to http://www.netzarim.co.il/Museum/Sukkah02/Sukkah02.htm#KfarShiloakh and www.cityofdavid.org.il/timeline_eng.asp
Kfar Shiloakh and Ir David date back millennia before Mohammed was even born and before the Romans expelled the Jews from our land and allowed Arabs to squat there and where they have since occupied indigenous Jewish land.
Based on their propagandist lies, they then claim Jews--the only truly indigenous people to the land--are "stealing" Arab-occupied land that, in fact, it is the Arabs, in collaboration with the Romans, who stole it from the Jews.
With tripe like that, it's no wonder that CBS has lost all of its credibility.