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farmrdave says:
Since the horrible killing that occurred in the school in Connecticut I have listened to gun control advocates (self named) repeat these same misguided baseless statements over and over again. I cannot understand if it is done knowingly by intelligent people thinking that uninformed persons will believe it? Or are they just simply stupid themselves? The NRA does all the things this man claims.
I went to my NRA sponsored "safe hunter course" when about 12 years old in the high school in the town I still live in. My mother dropped me in front and waited while I carried my deer rifle (my fathers gun) in and completed the safety training. Later when about 17 I remember a new rule not permitting any rifles in the back window gun rack of students allowed onto school grounds. That was the beginning of the insanity that pervades the media and big cities today. The NRA is not an organization that fights political battles so that we may be permitted to keep a small caliber rifle in the house for defense against home invasion. The NRA does fight the political battles to protect our natural right to keep guns as clearly stated in our constitution; "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed".
Here are some undeniable facts, truths that cannot be pushed aside. One of them is that criminals do not obey laws. Every mass killing that has occurred has been in violation of uncounted numbers of laws and regulations. Suicide bombers and these insane killers are about the same in every respect. They know before hand that they will not be alive when it is completed. Knowing this fact isn't it natural to assume there are ulterior motives to disarm legal tax paying Americans under the guise of safety for children?
How is it then wrong of the NRA to suggest that armed guards or teachers might save lives?
Consider this, Congressional oath of office; "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God".
With that in mind can you tell me how U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein can with a strait face propose to infringe our protected rights is not a domestic enemy of our constitution as outlined in the oath of office?
In my opinion, the firearm solution to this problem is to allow all law abiding citizens with Concealed Handgun Licenses in the USA, the legal right to carry it anywhere they go. This would include schools, federal buildings, court rooms, work places, anywhere it is illegal to carry a concealed handgun at this time. Criminals and deranged people need to fear that any US citizen could have a gun in their possession anywhere they are and could defend themselves and those around them.
Please talk about how every young male mass shooter has been known to take synthetic pharmaceutical drugs. Psychotropic drugs are directly linked to nearly all mass shootings in past decades. They are prescribed to them under the direction of courts and the guidance of pharmaceutical companies. Thank you.
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darlahead says:
You gun control advocates are you're own worst enemy. You couldn't get a better "buy a gun now" ad if you placed it on the Superbowl!!! Every time you start this stupid debate gun sales skyrocket. Guns are here, guns will always be here, that's REALITY!! You can pass the ultimate law "any and all guns are illegal in the U.S." and it still won't fix the problem. Anybody who wants a gun will always be able to get a gun no matter how many stupid laws you try to pass! Quit wasting time and my tax dollars. New gun laws are not going to solve the problem!
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tryingtodogoodwork replies:
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Puke.
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colum1948 says:
nice to know that most people in the USA put God and Gun s as the same thing .Us outsider think childen come 1s,and if people of the USA were christian, they would go with thou shall not kill,but there is no money in that,so Money=gun s,before God or childern
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colum1948 says:
nice to know that most people in the USA put God and Gun s as the same thing .Us outsider think childen come 1s,and if people of the USA were christian, they would go with thou shall not kill,but there is no money in that,so Money=gun s,before God or childern
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samXXkiley says:
coucou,
The term "disconnected" from reality is very appropriate. Since its inception to date, and for a non-profit organization, the NRA has much prospered, it consist of arms dealers rich and powerful, with archaic ideas, living far from reality. The goal this association was created for, is exceeded, it is no longer needed. because the sad reality on the street is different.
"au revoir"
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Libertarian084 replies:
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The sad "reality" is that the media pretty much controls what "reality" is - Armed citizens use guns successfully for self-defense thousands of times a year, but the leftist media doesn't cover those incidents because they do not advance their political agenda.

How many people who consume only CBS or CNN know that the Portland mall shooting was stopped short by an armed citizen? You only hear a kill count, they don't tell you that, after the perpetrator had killed two people, an armed citizen drew his weapon and pointed it at the killer, whereupon he ducked into a store and shot himself.

It's the left that is out of touch with reality (except for the spin doctors in the media, but even they start to believe their own BS after a while...)
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Pete627 says:
Fist of all, the NRA can't just be his father's NRA when all the other organizations that are anti-gun want to remove all guns from America. And don't be deceived, that's just what groups like the Brady people want. No guns at all. Wishful thinking I believe, but but it is their wish none the less. Other than removing all guns, what is general public's answer to stop things like the Lanza shooting? That's what I thought, they have none. The do not fly watch list is flawed and it is nearly impossible to get a wrongly added name removed. It is a luxury list; I for one haven't needed or wanted to fly anywhere in 20 years. I bring it up because he brought it up as an NEA example. I'm a life member who shoots guns competitively; I don't hunt, but then again the 2nd Amendment isn't about hunting. All my guns are locked securely always, transported properly always. Why should I not be allowed to do what I do safely, because of the insane actions of a few unstable individuals that the current American society would rather protect their rights and not the children of this country.
While we may not want to admit it, the world we live in s much more complex than when our fore fathers wrote the Consitution. The extreme terrorist organazations that want to destroy us, criminals who want to take our lives and pocessions, and insane individuals who want to answer the voices in their heads with violence. Israel trains all adults to handle military fire arms, and their teachers carry not hand guns but full-out military fire arms every day while in charge of the students. They recognize the danger they face evey day and are ready to responed to it. We want to live a fantasy world where we want to believe it shouldn't be necessary here. Sorry, think again. The NRA's proposals are not that far fetched and like it or not, there are some schools who are already arming their teachers. If properly trained, it can only be plus if nothing more thasn a deterent for some crazy knowing he might meet resistance in his attack.
There was an ABC special several years ago where the reporter interviewed incarcerated criminals and asked what they feared most when doing their illegal acts. Every one of them said they feared the home owner would have a gun and shoot them. So let's advertise more "Gun Free Zones" please.
As far as crazies go, take a way the guns and they will answer the voices another way. Consider the wacko's in China recently who went after school children with a large knife. And on more than one occasion. I can think of several ways of causing damage which I won't mention for fear of giving someone the idea, and it wouldn't require anything anyone would think to be dangerous. We need to start controling the individuals and and not the tools at their disposal.
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skeezix06 replies:
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The wackos in China had to be close enough to touch the students to hurt them. The wacko with a semi automatic doesn't even have to be in the same room.

I get tired of saying it but here goes, yet again. Keep your hunting guns. I don't want them. The Brady people probably don't want them. No one wants them but you.

Finally, by your own admission the guns are a hobby. Children are more important than hobbies. They have just as much right to LIFE, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness as you.
ugacrew replies:
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First, minimize the danger by educating
Second,provide for early detection of mental illnesses in preschools;
Third, Establish a system so that pharmacists are required to issue "alerts" to physicians of those patients who fall within school age, when prescribed medications have not been refilled.
The physician must alert both the parents as well as school officials. Schools should have on hand qualified professionals who are familiar with the medications being taken as well as any and all side affects.
Fourth, stop believing that you can establish one school system that has everything while barring others because of their differences in skin color, ethnicity, and/or income levels.
Disparity, depravation, and poverty as well as injustice gives rize to hate. Hate kills.
skeezix06 replies:
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Fourth. Ban all existing semi automatics from private ownership with large fines and potential prison time.

You obviously forgot to add it so I thought I'd help you out.
colum1948 replies:
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no one died,hurt yes if he was your man they would all be killed
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ugacrew says:
It is kinda hard to imagine that the American Indians were labelled as "savages."

The real savages ran them off their land.
Those same savages enslaved an entire race of people for their own prosperity.
Many of those same savages today feel the need to have an assault weapon because they were raised by several generations of the original savages that believed in supremacy, hate, and bigotry. They passed such beliefs on to other generations. They have yet to learn that hate begets hate, and hate often leads to irreversable consequences. They, being bearers of the swords will ultimately be the ones who die from it.
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ugacrew says:
Those who feel the need to carry a gun do so because their greatest fear is that they will run into someone like themselves.

It takes a thief to think like a thief.
It takes a murderer to think like a murderer.

The eyes are a mirror of a man's soul, and as a man thinketh, so is he.

BEWARE of the man that believes he is incomplete without an assault rifle.
He is RUNNING from others like himself.
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ugacrew replies:
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GRUMPYOLDPHART,

Hope you don't have weapons. Your comment reflects a gross lack of intelligence.
Libertarian084 replies:
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UGACREW, your posts are such a bunch of bull$h!t liberal talking points and attacks...anyone today who owns a semi-automatic rifle does so out of "supremacy, hate, and bigotry?" People who carry a gun for self-defense are "thieves" and "murderers?" The only bigotry I see here is yours.

The Second Amendment to the Constitution was INTENDED to insure the population was ARMED, as a deterrent to government tyranny. Many people own weapons out of a patriotic duty to provide that deterrent, as well as to defend themselves from common criminals.

You try to sound so philosophical and wise...but anyone who reads your posts on any level other than a cursory glance will see that you are neither of those things, and full of crap...
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tsigili says:
Nor is it your father's ERA!
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rwsmith29456 says:
I'm a gun nut (I hope a sensible one) and I think these extreme stances are there only to delay action until the emotions die down. Many of the suggestions I've heard for increased gun control make sense (a lot of them don't). This is the time for reasonable compromise on both sides of the issue. If they wait until it 'blows over' nothing is going to happen. Let me clarify that I think some gun controls and restrictions make sense, but don't think for a minute that this is what's going to solve the problems of a hyper-violent society.
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