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Justices To Hear Case Of 13-Year-Old Ariz. Girl Who Underwent Invasive Search For Ibuprofen Pills

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by barbaram99 April 21, 2009 1:12 PM EDT
I 'member being a teen.The constution is for minors as well. Frankly no teacher,staff member woud make me remove my clothes. I would dress her down. NO WAY. I don't like it when they paw thru my purse.. I hated them mini skirts at that was the main reason for slacks, I had a dress code,
I have to wonder if this girl was targeted for not being mormon even tho the article never said..
People have said troghen up-men. I used leave class in tears as they bulled me for being blind. i BORN THIS WAY.
tHAT IF AN ADULT DID WHAT THE STAFF TOLD THAT CHILD TO DO WELL I don't to tell ye what they do. The staff that made that child do this is not fit to hold the jobs they have. Teachers are to teach. They are not suppost to cross that line. I went to schools where they did not have a nurse..
Here is the problem..parents put children on meds by have Dr write as they don't want to raise them. There is school in Portland ME wanting to put girls on birth control. I was appalled about that. That is not for the schools.
Teachers are to teach the lessons they be hined to. If the schools are so worried about apupil's clothes,go to a school uniform. Frankly an adult would have to give out otc ,his/her caretaker. Parents.
There are teens that won't They should not. America has fallen and fear has taken over. people have let it,
Yes the constution is written on paper BUT it is more than that. It is want shoulde continue to guide this nation. Yet ye vote in people who do not wish to follow it. bush . he did not help.
The home is where the parents need to know what their child in taking or not taking to school. .
The schools have a duty to educate not pull this,We all pay for the schools even us that are childless. And as long as we all are forced to pay for it I voice my say.
Common sense..It went out the airlock as people hate common sense and manners. They rather thing of me first and do their own thing. Well maybe the teachers should teach the solial graces. Ladies and gentlemen and not the trash that is useless and the same in the home..
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by catsuny April 21, 2009 12:34 PM EDT
Well I would be doing the same.They shoiuld of contacted the parents,demanded that they show up at the school..present the problem ask permission to have the child searched ,or wat ever.Its funny schools are FORCED TO TRED LIGHTLY/ These parents send em off then most of em do not havediscpline ,expect the school to discpline not folloow any of the schools rules and last and leastly TEACH THE CHILD DEAREST.When I went to school my parents told me to do as I'am told If i HAVE a problem talk to the teacher ,if no luck when I got home to tell them what was wrong ,and we did this .MY parents paid for my education and beleive me they didnt want us in trouble BECAUSE THE SCHOOL WAS IN CHARGE MY JOB WAS TO LEARN AND THERES WAS TO TEACH...NOT today most parents wont ,dont , want to follow the schools rules ,or policies it could be the teaching, the clothes ...face it folks when you grow up there is rules dress codes etc,as a adult you abide you teach a child and he/she abides......I as child remember going and having a teacher or as it was a nun teach me help me guide me even if we didnt have the same religion we were taught there and when we grew up we were allowed to pick which one we wanted ..if it was a choice of none they werent happy but we were also 18&19 yrs.old we did learn and we didnt have regrets it not important how we drssed and all looked the same it was absolutely easier for my mom,we all adjusted and learned.If there was ap roblem with a student that couldnt be handled our parents were called in and they had to remove us...
if our parents didnt like it they were given a choice either the child abides or them as the parent if they were liking COULD VERY WELL TAKE THE CHILD OUT AND EDUCATE THAT CHILD SOME PLACE ELESE...MOST PARENTS DIDNT REMOVE THE CHILD ...AND GUESS WHAT JUST ABOUT ALL THE CHILDREN CAME OUT OF SCHOOL EDUCATED,COULD READ WELL SPELL WELL WRITE WELL AMAZING
THE SCHOOL POSITION IS TO EDUCATE IF THE CHILD IS A STEADY PROBLEM ...THEN BYE BYE
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by vsavatar April 21, 2009 10:50 AM EDT
Richard, your an idiot. six years is nothing in our legal system, and just walking away from this case would not only allow the same behavior to continue at that school, but would add legal precedent for any other schools who think this is the proper response. if it were my daughter, i wouldnt stop until i had my hands around thier throats. i dont see where the parents are looking for a payday here. Posted by phoolish1

While I won't say that anyone on here is an idiot, phoo has a good point here. The wheels of justice turn very slowly. It can take a year from the time a case is filed to even see a dispositive motion on it, sometimes longer. The appeals court dockets are filled and getting heard there can take over a year. Besides, let's not forget who brought this before the Supreme Court. It wasn't Savana, it was the school district. Savana won in the appeals court. So you could say the school district is the one dragging this case out.

I'd ask people on here to please consider that not everyone feels the same way about their bodies as you do. Some people are very self-conscious and protective of their bodies, and would feel that something like what happened to this young lady is akin to rape. Telling someone to simply "get over it" is like telling someone to get over being raped. Maybe some people can do it, but for others it can cause a life of emotional suffering and fear.
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by van002 April 21, 2009 10:47 AM EDT
If any of you adults had been strip searched in pursuit of a couple ibuprofens, would you accept it as reasonable search? I think not, so why is this so different? Kids are people too and deserve equal protection as afforded by the constitution
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by phoolish1 April 21, 2009 10:35 AM EDT
The only thing crazier than the strip seacrh was the parents of this kid taking a 1-time half-hour incident, blowing it all out of proportion, and converting their own child into a career lifetime victim, thus assuring her that she will be messed up forever. Six years! Six years they are fighting this silly insane battle, and for what? Shame! Shame on these parents!
Posted by richardj3901


richard, your an idiot. six years is nothing in our legal system, and just walking away from this case would not only allow the same behavior to continue at that school, but would add legal precedent for any other schools who think this is the proper response. if it were my daughter, i wouldnt stop until i had my hands around thier throats. i dont see where the parents are looking for a payday here.
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by s57g67l April 21, 2009 10:30 AM EDT
Posted by jennifer-marie at 5:51 AM : Apr 21, 2009 -- Freedom ends when a society starts turning away from incidents such as this under the guise of "the protection of the many outweigh the personal protection of the few." THAT is why this case has lasted six years.
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EXACTLY, Jenn. Great post. This school really overstepped in this instance. One thing I disagree with you about is---the backpack and locker search should NOT have been the first step. The first step should have been call the parents of BOTH students to find out which household had the prescription ibuprofen in it. (Hopefully, only one of them did). This story neglects to mention the fact that these were prescription-strength pills. Finding out which student had access to the medicine could have cleared up the "she said/she said" factor in the situation
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by Not_Understanding April 21, 2009 10:26 AM EDT
I must believe that the leadership of the school district has contaminated the comments associated with this issue. That is the only way that I can fathom so many posts from people who believe that a public school district has the right to strip search a 13 year old student. Anyone associated with the decision and the action should lose his or her job, and should be brought up on criminal charges.
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by jennifer-marie April 21, 2009 8:51 AM EDT
Six years they are fighting this silly insane battle, and for what? Shame! Shame on these parents!
Posted by richardj3901 at 1:47 AM : Apr 21, 2009

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If my daughter's school were to do ANYTHING like this to my daughter, you can bet your head that I'd pursue justice for my daughter for however long it took - six years or sixty years. What this school did was so entirely wrong and it blows my mind that people are condemning this girl!

A strip search is a part of a legal search, only when the person being searched is in police custody and the search is conducted by a properly trained law enforcement officer. A school secretary and a school nurse are in NO way properly trained or legally authorized to do a strip search, and the first thing they should have done when the search of this girl's locker and bookbag turned up no medicine was call her parents.

The public schools in this country have taken entirely too much liberty with their authority over OUR children. NO ONE in the school should ever take a child into a private office for any kind of questioning or search without a parent, legal guardian, or legal representative present and the school's have no authority to force a child to do anything WITHOUT one of said people being present.

My daughter and my nieces, who live with me, have ALL been informed that the moment a principal, teacher, school nurse, school psychologist, or school investigator calls them into an office to "talk" they are to immediately say, "I want to call my mom/Aunt Jenn" and then refuse to say anything else until I arrive.

All of that being said, I am still trying to understand when having an ibuprofen became such a heinous crime? When I was in high school, I had a bottle of Tylenol, pure Aspirin, and Midol in my locker at all times and the school adminstrators and my teachers all knew it.

Freedom ends when a society starts turning away from incidents such as this under the guise of "the protection of the many outweigh the personal protection of the few."

Another way to look at this: violations of a person like this one, and the lack of action by the public on behalf of the person who was violated, are exactly why so many grow up to be criminals.

Yes, the school had a duty and a right to protect all of the children within its walls - but they also had a duty to protect THIS girl from a clearly humiliating and violating procedure that should only have been conducted with her parents present and by the police.

THAT is why this case has lasted six years.
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by rave_on3 April 21, 2009 7:53 AM EDT
The only thing crazier than the strip seacrh was the parents of this kid taking a 1-time half-hour incident, blowing it all out of proportion, and converting their own child into a career lifetime victim, thus assuring her that she will be messed up forever. Six years! Six years they are fighting this silly insane battle, and for what? Shame! Shame on these parents!
Posted by richardj3901 at 1:47 AM : Apr 21, 2009

Absurd as it may be, justice is hardly the most expedient animal in nature. You're assuming the suit is only for the benefit of this singular victim. Consider future victims that may be protected because of a precedent in this ruling.
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by eroosevelt08 April 21, 2009 3:22 AM EDT
The behavior of school personnel in this matter was disgusting and hurtful. I can understand why Savana and her family have sued. I hope Savana and her family are vindicated in this matter.

And what happened to the student who pointed to Savana? What happened to that student?
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