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Expert Says Her Body Language May Have Belied Strong Support She Voiced For Obama

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by toldyouso12 August 27, 2008 11:57 PM EDT
Of course she meant it. For $30,000,000 I''''d wear an OBAMA t-shirt(LMAO)! Toldyouso12, we CLINTON supporters don''''t have to cough up a dime. And neither does Hillary! The DNC/Obama campaign has got it covered.

Posted by TiredoftheBS at 08:53 PM : Aug 27, 2008


Nobody ever HAS to cough up a dime--but sincere people usually put their money where their mouth is. A lot of griping, whining and complaining and condemning from the HRC camp--they even want her to run as an Independent--on what? Promises? When push came to shove, each of her supporters could not even get up off of 1.67--about the price of an egg mcmuffin or a 2 liter of Pepsi. That says a lot about that support. HRC will be the scapegoat for the DNC if Obama loses--she already was the scapegoat and excuse for those supporters in her crowd who dared not admit that they are racists who''d rather vote for anyone that vote for the person whose agenda was very similar to hers.

Not even 1.67....not that you HAVE to--but given the professed love and loyalty to her--surprising you people do not seem to WANT to.
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by tiredofthebs August 27, 2008 11:56 PM EDT
....Now we''''ll see how effective and meaningful it was to your supporters. (that is the true test of a speech''''s power)

Posted by toldyouso12 at 08:53 PM : Aug 27, 2008


Not very effective at all. NO WAY, NO HOW, NO OBAMA!
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by tiomkin-2009 August 27, 2008 11:55 PM EDT
I''m not clear why we just don''t subject Hilary to some of those new brain scan machines and extract the REAL truth. I mean she could have been faking all of the body language. We can''t let her get away with that can we?
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by toldyouso12 August 27, 2008 11:53 PM EDT
Navarro was a big fan of Michelle''s speech Monday night,

"I think it was a home run," Navarro observed. "She''s a beautiful woman. You know, her hugs are genuine. She has those beautiful high cheek bones that we see in models. The broad shoulders. (She had a wide stance). Her gestures are huge. They are very encompassing. These things draw us in. These are the things we look for. Otherwise, just hand out a memo."


I heard HRC''s speech. I think it could have been longer. I applaud her for what she did do--as for Michelle and high cheek bones--*** kind of comment is that? Or beautiful woman (implying the other is not. This person totally destroyed their own credibility. Assessing either speech need not come at the expense of the other woman. I''m giving this analysis an F-. HRC--you did good. Now we''ll see how effective and meaningful it was to your supporters. (that is the true test of a speech''s power)
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by tiredofthebs August 27, 2008 11:53 PM EDT
Of course she meant it. For $30,000,000 I''d wear an OBAMA t-shirt(LMAO)! Toldyouso12, we CLINTON supporters don''t have to cough up a dime. And neither does Hillary! The DNC/Obama campaign has got it covered.
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by tiredofthebs August 27, 2008 11:53 PM EDT
Of course she meant it. For $30,000,000 I''d wear an OBAMA t-shirt(LMAO)! Toldyouso12, we CLINTON supporters don''t have to cough up a dime. And neither does Hillary! The DNC/Obama campaign has got it covered.
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by Syndicate August 27, 2008 11:48 PM EDT
Hell of a body language expert. Missed the shaking the head "no" while saying yes thing.
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by toldyouso12 August 27, 2008 11:47 PM EDT
She put her best foot forward and ahead of her self interests and it was genuine from that standpoint. Plus, she is not finished achieving the goals she believes in. There is not a republican politician that can compare to the intelligent visionary inspirational speakers of the democratic party. Republicans comprise the limited and self absorbed special interests. With republicans it''''s "me". With democrats it''''s "we". Hillary had an excellent comment along the lines of supporting the public good over private plundering.

Posted by l8c6 at 07:35 PM : Aug 27, 2008


Unfortunately for HRC--she put that best foot forward a bit late. That foot forward could have been done with grace, months before--leaving out reneging on pledges about MI and FL..or could have been done on June 4--when she acted like she was delusional. Bitter pills for the rest of her party. NOw...2 things still look bad for HRC:

1. Her so called "supporters" won''t even cough up 1.67 each to retire her debt.

2. If they refuse to support Obama as HRC touts--she looks as if she is a paper leader, since her so called supporters went right while she went and said left.

Both actions will come back to haunt her in 2012. But the truth is, those who do not want Obama really just wanted an excuse. HRC would do, up until last night--now they have to find another reason to hide the probable real reason--that they are racists and do not want a black man and his black wife and their black children in the White HOuse.
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by toldyouso12 August 27, 2008 11:42 PM EDT
On the other hand, no matter how sincere HRC is--if her supporters refuse to deliver for the DNC and their party--she will be blamed. People will point to her long running, caustic campaign and her words having dug in certain demographics..then when she runs in 2012 (if she runs) the other 18 million will do to her 18 million what they do to Obama. HRC knows this--many of her angry supporters miss the big picture, or are way too emotional or racist to care. If Obama loses now, HRC will lose whenever she runs and the carcass of her campaign will be thrown at the feet of the very supporters who stabbed her in the back now. Yep, failing HRC at this point means you screeew her future over and also means she is not a leader as those who voted for her, dismissed her and her choices when they no longer could use her as an excuse.

Read the naysayers posts carefully, they almost always tip back to race, religion or ethnicity as justification, when HRC herself endorsed Obama.
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by toldyouso12 August 27, 2008 11:35 PM EDT
She said what she had to--and I, for one, will give her the benefit of the doubt. Leave her alone now. The media wants to keep this ****** going as does McCain--but at the end of the day--we need HRC (and her supporters) and they in turn need the Dems and the rest of us. She did what it took and body language aside, she said enough to rouse the Dems and to egg on her supporters and yes--HRC has the sole right to release her delegates--where they go after that release is up to them--but by releasing them, she gives them the right to choose someone other than herself. It looks weird if her personal message is "I choose Obama" and her supporters'' message is, we choose you--even though you choose someone else.

HRC knew the stakes and her duty to the party, if she ever wanted to run again--her supporters that still refuse need a wake up call and a lesson in voting 101, how the DNC and delegates work and what is at stake and why--Not even the color of Obama''s skin should stop smart people from voting for him--it is the destination you want to achieve not the color of the car that gets you there.
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by l8c6 August 27, 2008 10:35 PM EDT
Who would suspect otherwise. Hillary is a type A high achiever. Of course she''s disappointed but she''s not a bitter loser either. She put her best foot forward and ahead of her self interests and it was genuine from that standpoint. Plus, she is not finished achieving the goals she believes in. There is not a republican politician that can compare to the intelligent visionary inspirational speakers of the democratic party. Republicans comprise the limited and self absorbed special interests. With republicans it''s "me". With democrats it''s "we". Hillary had an excellent comment along the lines of supporting the public good over private plundering.
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by republic1776 August 27, 2008 10:11 PM EDT
All Democrats only care about themselves.
I love watch this in house fighting.
It''s shows their true colors!
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by jackdems August 27, 2008 10:04 PM EDT
Somebody please tell Obama that we live in a free Country. Its called freedom of speech.

%u201CHaving failed in its attempts to get our legal, factual and fully-supported ad off the air, Barack Obama%u2019s campaign now wants to put our donors in prison for exercising their right to free speech," said Ed Martin, American Issues Project%u2019s president. %u201CThese over-the-top bullying tactics are reminiscent of the kind of censorship one would see in a Stalinist dictatorship, with the only difference being that those guys generally had to wait until they were in power to throw people who disagreed with them into jail.%u201D

In addition to two letters sent to the Department of Justice asking the government to investigate American Issues Project, its officers, board of directors, and donors, the Obama campaign has been contacting stations running American Issues Project%u2019s ad in an unsuccessful attempt to compel them to pull the spot.

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by forevertru-2009 August 27, 2008 9:53 PM EDT
Man, has Hillary ever got even with the DNC, now they can eat losing the White House.

Good-bye Democratic Party

No, we''re not leaving....they are.
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by c0mm0n_sense August 27, 2008 9:42 PM EDT
Did she mean it??? No,she didn''t "mean it". But she didn''t have a choice. It''s a code you have to follow and she stuck by it.
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by noloyalisti August 27, 2008 9:35 PM EDT
I think we will all be quite pleased with the change to our political and financial systems that will be brought in by President Obama.
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by forevertru-2009 August 27, 2008 9:24 PM EDT
HILLARY IS LOSING.......

JOHN McCAIN IS WINNING.....
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by promaclaura August 27, 2008 9:18 PM EDT
You''''''''ve obviously never seen one work on a regular basis. Reading body language is a science and very interesting. I admire these experts because they know their business and can pin down intent with incredible accuracy. I''''''''ve seen this done on both Republicans and Democrats, is very unbiased and fun to watch.
Posted by promaclaura
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You are as big a Pea Brain as they are.
And obviously an Obama supporter.


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Posted by broncfan1661

No, I''m a McCain supporter and look forward to seeing body language analysis about him. It''s very interesting and the analysts usually are Doctor''s in the study. I wouldn''t like it either if they trotted out novices. I haven''t seen this guy''s work but he is ex-FBI specializing in this area. So you totally read my message wrong and my enjoying the analysis has nothing to do with either side.
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by broncfan1661 August 27, 2008 9:04 PM EDT
I think that the Clinton''''s will be solely responsible if he does not prevail.
Posted by ericv2644
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You sound like you expect the Presidency to be handed to him. If he is not elected it is no ones fault but his own and his dishonest campaign manager. Get used to it He is a loser.
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by broncfan1661 August 27, 2008 9:01 PM EDT
You''''ve obviously never seen one work on a regular basis. Reading body language is a science and very interesting. I admire these experts because they know their business and can pin down intent with incredible accuracy. I''''ve seen this done on both Republicans and Democrats, is very unbiased and fun to watch.
Posted by promaclaura
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You are as big a Pea Brain as they are.
And obviously an Obama supporter.
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