Comments on: Tasered Grandpa Sues Hospital

Ohio Man, 67, Claims Guards Got Outraged Over What He Meant As Joke

[bigboy1069]

First of all, let''s get over this "serve and protect" thing. They are SECURITY GUARDS NOT COPS. Cops are the ones who serve and protect. Having worked in the security industry for a good number of years, I know that buisness are concerned with keeping cost down. This includes their security. I''d bet my last dollar, the hospital guards had little, if any training. I''d take the word of a a man of God who was on a mission of mercy to the hospital with his son and grandson well before I''d take the work of a punk *** security guard who thinks he''s tough *** because he has a taser gun.

[lochlan-2009]

This country is in a sad state after these last seven years of Bush/Cheney authoritarian Chinese government.

People better start getting p!ssed before it''s completly game over for all civil and human rightsin this country. The bill of rights has been torn to pieces, minus D.C.''s second Amendment ruling.

[monkfellow]

their role is to ''''protect and serve'''' ... and it looks like fewer and fewer of them understand the meaning of this.

officers jobs are inherently dangerous ... they should know that when they decide to do that job. they''''ll have to deal w/ the problems (and problematic individuals) that others can''''t or won''''t deal with. it''''s a not a tool to use so you don''''t scuff your shoes and soil your uniform. it''''s likely you''''ll deal with problem cases and get injured in the process of mitigating these situations.
Well,it''s pretty obvious you''ve had problems with the criminal justice system,and that''s your business.But, in this day and age when the criminal element has a legal "green light" to proclaim "I''ll sue" for about anything, then, yes, I think officers have the right to protect themselves..despite your stupid and snotty comment about getting their uniforms soiled.Since you have apparent superior intellegence about the role law enforcement plays and what "risks" officers in the middle of American cities should anticipate and expect, including their own deaths, let''s see you take the training and put on the "unsoiled" uniform, and hit the street,and confront criminals in the middle of the night,instead of snoozing away comfy in your bed.Again, there''s more here from you that we don''t need to know about,but such anti-law enforcement invective should not and will not be ignored.

[randynason]

Not knowing the actual facts concerning the incident, if what Poisson says is true, I hope this case goes forward and he wins. The hospital and guard are on very shakey ground and should be held accountable, big time.

[shazam112]

what does that tell you ,rob roy is right the american society is seriously cruel towards fellow human being ,and one of there owen ,can you imagine what the iraqi people must have been going through at the hands of american soldiers ...poor poisson ,sue the pants out of the damm hospital....

[patriot04321]

For all of you that are making assumptions about tasers, maybe you should read the facts... http://www.taser.com/Pages/default.aspx

[bobnjersey]

[monkfellow, I think bob just doesn''''t have a lot of knowledge about the use of these tools. I would give him the benefit of the doubt. ]
[Posted by patriot12436 at 11:44 AM : Jul 25, 2008]


i actually know quite a bit about these devices ... since they come up periodically in cases exactly like this ... where it''s abused ... and everyone argues that''s it serves good elsewhere.

i''ve read the studies that claim signifigant reduction in injuries associated w/ the interaction between officers and suspects ... with signifigant reductions in officer injuries when the have the taser.

i also know that they''re now selling these devices to anyone at all ... without any training in it''s use ... and no awareness of what''s it''s like to be on the receiving end of this. they''re using a ''tupperware party'' model to promote them.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/25/earlyshow/main4207156.shtml?source=search_story

get ready for many more stories of the abuse of this device ... which should be completely banned across the board due to failure of only a few ... to use it responsibly.

[bobnjersey]

[I guess you''''re among those who believe it''''s better for a law enforcement officer to die than risk ANY injury to some supposed innocent. Liberal equivocation gone wild! ]
[Posted by monkfellow at 11:40 AM : Jul 25, 2008]

supposed innocent? how about presummed innocent ... does that phrase ring a bell ... are are you one of those who believes everyone should be completely and totally subserviant to anyone w/ a uniform and a weapon ... regardless of whether they''re right or wrong?

their role is to ''protect and serve'' ... and it looks like fewer and fewer of them understand the meaning of this.

officers jobs are inherently dangerous ... they should know that when they decide to do that job. they''ll have to deal w/ the problems (and problematic individuals) that others can''t or won''t deal with. it''s a not a tool to use so you don''t scuff your shoes and soil your uniform. it''s likely you''ll deal with problem cases and get injured in the process of mitigating these situations.

there''s a famous quote from English jurist William Blackstone "Better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer" ... it''s known as the ''blackstone ratio'' ... and it''s taught in law schools across the western world as a fundamental principle of law.

apparently you think differently than what the jurisprudence of the western legal world promotes and teaches to it''s recruits as dogma.

[democrat122]

And we wonder why our health-care costs are climbing...this guy needs to realize that it''s the poor, needy sick patients who are going to foot the bill for his millions...dirty money-mongerer.

[missybelle-2009]

"Poisson elbowed one guard and tried to pull his hair while on the ground."

Hell, yeah! I would too, get off me you lame *** jerk-offs!

[mswolfestock]

Somebody ought to Taze those dumb-A*S*S* rent-a-cops.

I thought that people had to be trained or certified to carry a Tazer. I thought they would have to take a dose of the Tazer JUST SO THEY WOULD UNDERSTAND WHY IT SHOULD ONLY BE USED IN SITUATIONS WHEN ALL OTHER OPTIONS ARE EXHAUSTED.

You GO, Grampa. Sue the C*R*A*P* out of them.

[patriot04321]

Are you serious deadly force? taking away tazers? If you happen to get into a fight with a law enforcement or security official, would you rather be shot with a gun or beaten down with a baton? In order to carry any of those tools you need training! I''m sure those security officers had training. And I''m sure they were in the right! They are security, don''t you think they know where the cameras are? And if they were really in the wrong don''t you think they would have stayed off camera? I think this so called reverend probably deserved what he got and now because of some fancy play on words he is trying to sue for money. He says he wants the two guards to find his kind of faith....really? I think he wants to use his "faith" to try to cash in on some hospital money...Wow..how religious.. So reverend? Do you have God''s blessing to sue a Catholic Hospital? Any pastor or reverends I know wouldn''t pick a fight with security or law enforcement then wait a year and try to sue them. Come on! Get real! Don''t worry, I''ll pray for you.

[meanbiker]

so it took a year to get a lawyer.. ?

[u2canb1]

Security guards are low IQ''d, miserable, untrained bullies, most of them fat, lazy and very stupid - this makes them hostile, defensive and have a propensity to just use physical force instead of the little brain cells they possess..

[navyjimfl]

I work in a medical center and I can''t imagine our security guards doing something like this....my guess is this is not the only issue they have had with their security guards......talk about needing customer service training..

[ejcspau]

hey - where the hel*l are rev j.j. and al sharpton?? they are always nosing around

Posted by sociald63 at 12:07 PM : Jul 25, 2008

Look at the picture. The man is white. The guard was probably black.

[cbsblogger]

People that go to that hospital are customers, whether they are vistors or patients and need to be treated as such.

The question is are we moving to a police state where citizens should refrain from making eye contact with "authority figures" whether they are rent a cops or airline stewardesses?

As customers and clients we must expect respect from any authority figure whether it be law enforcement or security guards or airline TSA.

[xmanborg]

Listen BRO: Dont TAZE Grandpa. You would not like Grandpa after you TAZE him.

Dont TAZE Grandpa!

[credibility2]

Security guards should never be entrusted with any weapons because of their general lack of intelligence and ability to judge and reason fairly. Most guards lack a high school or even grade school diploma and arming them with weapons like this or guns, is inviting their stupid ego to take over. I hope this guy gets plenty for what was done to him by this moron guard.

[cbsblogger]

These minimum wage thug rent a cops are on a power trip. They need charged with assault with a deadly weapon.