Comments on: Men From Polygamy Sect Speak

Early Show Co-Anchor Maggie Rodriguez Lands Exclusive Interview With 3 From Texas Compound

[shaltice]

There are laws, and investigation of criminal bahavior based on real evidence is warranted, on an individual case by case basis. However, blogger tndv brings up an excellent point on the hypocricy of those jumping on the bandwagon on this story, and the anit-religious bias in our education, entertainment, and media systems...handing out condoms to teens in one hand while ripping nursing babies from their mothers on the other.

[shaltice]

Posted by MyOpinion1 at 11:34 AM : Apr 22, 2008

...They are rapists and murderers...They are a CULT and they need to get rid of them. They are an embarrassment in this world."
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what are you talking about? Are you suggesting a firing squad? Is that how you want to "get rid of them?" And how did you throw in "murderers" in there? Is there evidence of murder? You are way out of line. Once again, a blogger cannot stay on topic and makes irrelevant comments.

[tndv]

"But gentlemen," Rodriguez asked, "do you think that a teenage girl has the maturity to make that kind of decision, especially if she sees other girls doing it and maybe might believe that it''s OK? Isn''t it your responsibility to tell them no it''s not OK?"

What a hypocrite! *** Ed - forced on American children in the public schools - basically operates on the premise that minors are going to have *** no matter what we tell them, so we''d better educate them on how to not become pregnant or contract an STD. Liberals, the Dept. of Education, Hollywood, and the MSM all tell our kids to have ***, basically. And now someone is jumping all over these people? Ah, I see - if you can tie in religion, anything those people do or believe is wrong. If this sect was a bunch of tree-worshiping, gender-confused polyamorist fetishists, the liberals would be all for supporting them.

[talessman]

Let''s not start down some BS trail about how the poor innocent women/girls were all victims of the evil dominating men/boys.

Their society is different than mainstream American society. Those people have lived their entire life with these beliefs, so it''s normal to them. I"M NOT SAYING IT''S RIGHT, only that it''s how they were taught to live.

But this community is made up of men AND women, all of whom contributed to their society and beliefs. Thus, if any "blame" is to be spread, that blame belongs to the women as well as the men. They were all adults, who encouraged these beliefs, teaching the girls AND boys. Neither gender was more at fault, nor was either gender more innocent.

So let''s make sure equal responsibilities go with those equal rights.

Thomas Lessman
Website: www.ThomasLessman.com
Blog: www.talessman.blogspot.com
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[shaltice]

Posted by whatawatson at 10:29 AM : Apr 22, 2008
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Yeah it''''s amazing how these things come back to bite you Religious Nazi''''s isn''''t it. YOU want to provide Services to our people, YOU want to define what they will recieve when it comes to *** Education, YOU want to tell people who they can and can NOT sleep with but heaven forbid if we INSIST these freaks live by the laws of our land. I say they all should be taken down and regulated. We can not allow people to be brainwashed the way these women are... not an claim to be a free society!! Sieg Heil and Amen

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The most illogical and irrelevant comments are coming from "whatawatson" who signs his name "Sieg Heil and Amen." Case in point, he talks of "free society" but says he says "they all should be taken down and regulated?" Contradicts himself. Stick to the topic at hand. Regardless of how much you hate religion and call those who believe "Religious Nazi''s", a tenant of a free society is freedom of religion, and allows for due process and the rule of law. Those accused in this group are awarded due process. Being "Nazi" is taking away children from their parents in mass without due process.

[mcvet]

Actually, I believe it is legal to marry an underage person if you have the parents permission.


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Posted by adamdrussell at 11:07 AM : Apr 22, 2008
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Yes but you are only allowed ONE marriage! LOL These wacked out fundies want 15 to 20 of them... can''t do that! ROFLMAO Sieg Heil and Amen

[mcvet]

I am not saying everything is fine with this group, but with our society, how can we even prosecute this group? Look at OUR young people. We tell them every way to have *** and not get caught. This is certianly the pot calling the kettle black! Take the plank out of your own eye, before you take the speck of sawdust out of theirs!!


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Posted by whatawatson at 10:29 AM : Apr 22, 2008
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Yeah it''s amazing how these things come back to bite you Religious Nazi''s isn''t it. YOU want to provide Services to our people, YOU want to define what they will recieve when it comes to *** Education, YOU want to tell people who they can and can NOT sleep with but heaven forbid if we INSIST these freaks live by the laws of our land. I say they all should be taken down and regulated. We can not allow people to be brainwashed the way these women are... not an claim to be a free society!! Sieg Heil and Amen

[adamdrussell]

Actually, I believe it is legal to marry an underage person if you have the parents permission.

[mcvet]

Who are you to decide who is "underage"?? God and Nature decides when puberty happens - that is becoming an adult. Some people have this at 14, some at 17. I agree people that sexually abuse prepubescent girls should be shot, however, we should respect their religion and if all parties agree to have post pubescent teens wed, let them be. Its all over once we start getting govt involved w/ religion.


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Posted by cruzinmy64 at 10:58 AM : Apr 22, 2008
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Oh? It''s okay to have "Marrage Amendments" and Religious Nazi''s calling our entire congress back into session but heaven forbid if we REQUIRE these IMMORAL Jerks to allow Girls to be a certain age before they start raping them... MAKES perfect sense!! ROFLMAO Sieg Heil and Amen

[cruzinmy64]

Who are you to decide who is "underage"?? God and Nature decides when puberty happens - that is becoming an adult. Some people have this at 14, some at 17. I agree people that sexually abuse prepubescent girls should be shot, however, we should respect their religion and if all parties agree to have post pubescent teens wed, let them be. Its all over once we start getting govt involved w/ religion.

[riccker21]

This is not about ***. Rape and child abuse is not about ***, it is about power. That is why they are totally seperated from the rest of the world. That is why most men are sent away or leave, they don''t fit the power structure. False Prophet comes to mind. Save the children and charge the adults.

[mcharlton]

I don''t care what religion you''re from, a 13 year old getting pregnent at the hands of a 40 year old is illegal in Texas. She''s a kid. She doesn''t have the ability to make an informed decision like this. Most 22 year old women have difficulty with it. She doesn''t even know what love is. That''s why it''s illegal.

Look, these young girls are kept ignorant to the point where they don''t even know their birth date. They''re forced into underage marriages before they even have the maturity to understand the gravity of a sexual relationship. They''re forced to have children. If they resist, they''re shamed into submission.

I don''t know of any scripture where God would ever justify this kind of treatment of His daughters. I have a daughter. I have an obligation to God to teach her to be independent until she''s old enough to make all of her decisions for herself. God is no "respector of persons," so I will be accountable for my actions as a father; just like everyone else. I want instill enough self-respect so she can be choosy about the man she marries. Women have just as much right to an educated decision as men. There''s no excuse for this kind of demeaning treatment. Men are accountable to God for how they treat their wives and children.

[Tim Temple]

These people are being Puritanical. The Puritans married their kids off when they reached the traditional age of maturity -- 13. This is the Jewish tradition as well. These young adults sought help and advice from their elders and grew up to be good members of their society.

Contrast that with today, where people from adolescence to 18 are sullen and resentful at being treated like children when they aren''t. This is where the rebellion comes from. This is where the drugs, thrill seeking, crime and generation "gap" come from. The women of this age are very insecure because they have to compete for future mates, but not get in trouble. We end up with damaged adults.

Who ends up doing the worse ABUSE?

[shaltice]

Blogs like this, no offence, are mostly illogical and irrelevant. Regardless of your political and religious prejudices, there are the rule of law and the constitution. This is a legal not a religious discussion.

I for one certainly do not advocate the beliefs nor practices of this group, and the accusations flying around are disturbing. Nevertheless, under our constitution, these United States citizens are awarded due process and are innocent until proven guilty. If there is evidence of abuse from a certain individual, or individuals, prosecute those individuals, but do not allow a blanket raid over hundreds of people. 416 children were taken away from their mothers and families, roughly 100 under the age of 4. That is unconstitutional and Stalinist. This has far reaching implications. Beware and think before jumping on the bandwagon.

[whatawatson]

I am not saying everything is fine with this group, but with our society, how can we even prosecute this group? Look at OUR young people. We tell them every way to have *** and not get caught. This is certianly the pot calling the kettle black! Take the plank out of your own eye, before you take the speck of sawdust out of theirs!!

[michnor]

This was an excellent interview. Kudos to Maggie. As far as I have seen she is the only one who has interviewed the men of this sect. I would be interesting to learn their backgrounds. Were they born into the cult?How any wives do they have and how old were the wives when they married them? What kind of work do they do to support their families? The three appeared to be speaking the "party line", but Rulon appeared the most robotic.

[apostolic36]

Just because King David did it in the bible does not make it right. His first kid by the next wife, was killed by God also. Abraham had one wife and their child, Isaac, brought us the Promise of the New Testament, and there was the concubine used for purposes of furthering nations that have caused everyone a lot of trouble, Iraq (came from Ishmael, kid of Abraham''s concubine).

Some of us have had spouses and children that cannot stay out of trouble, it does not make it right!!!

[amore02]

the womans parents picked there spouses whether they liked them or not. so READ YOUR BIBLE then tell me what you think. these laws were put into law so the GOVERNMENT could tell you how to live your life. BUT, it is against the law so they are wrong in doing so. IF IT WASn''t against the law according to the bible there is nothing wrong with what they have done. me myself and i am a 1 man woman and i will not share my man, yes i am jealous and there fore another sin i am guilty of. YOU have no right to judge them the bible says judge not your neibors there fore you are guilty of this sin. it is the Governments and most of all GODS right to judge. God also says he will not punish stupidness, meaning if they never knew it was wrong because no one ever told them, it isn''t there fault and he won''t hold it against them, how ever now that they know, lets see what they do now.

[apostolic36]

Co-Anchor Maggie Rodriguez did an excellent job of staying on the point of child exploitation is not a marriage. I would love to see her and Joyce Meyers interview these lowless, depraved and not obviously happy men who do not have nor know of the joy of the Lord. Again, no one in these cults, morman, amish, catholic convents have read their own bibles: see verses from Deut. 17:17; Titus 1:6; 1Tim.3:2; Matt,19:4 polygamy forbidden. The pope needs to read the above and also 1Tim.4:1-4 fobidding to marry is a doctrine of the devil. You will perish for lack of knowledge.

[amore02]

you know yes what they did was wrong, because it is against the laws, but read your bible, king david had more than one wife! did you know that? and God never condemmed him for that. and in the bible days if a girl was old enough to menstrate, then she would be married. What makes this so wrong is the bible also says man MUST obey MANS laws as well as GODS laws. i agree this is gross and nasty, but who are we to judge saying they are commenting MORAL crimes, that is Gods job. and in several stats if a child (some states 15 some 16 years of age) wants to marry and have the parents permission to then let them i know of a 100 year old woman who was married at 13. it was legal! But to FORCE some one to marry, well that was also in biblical days as well where a woman was promised to a man (most of times much older) and that was the way it was done.