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Report Shows Where Billions Of Tax Dollars Are Going: Earmarks

[speakinup]

thcarson - I just wanted to make sure I got it all. Thanks again.

If you don''t mind, once I read the sites, I''ll use your material.

[singingrick]

New projected cost of the Iraq debacle:

3 trillion dollars and rising


Yes, earmarks need to be rained in. Republicans have racked up 9 trillion dollars in national debt with them. The Democrats may to a lesser degree follow suit.


When you so-called conservatives start whining about the mind boggling waste that this represents, perhaps we''ll all start taking you seriously.

[fuzzybear9]

Drat this horrible CBS editing notebook
let me try again

The limit as 1 U.S. Dollar approaches 0
as n approaches 0
then the upper limit of 1 Fraudulent U.S. Goverment
dollar as n approaches infinity
is infinite.
hence the more goverment spends actually doesn`t hurt
in a society where each dollar is valued at zero.

I think thats it.

do we have any math majors handy?

and to think all you MBA`s just thought the Scie students just gazed at test tubes all day.

sincerely still on the problem bear
Fuzzy

[thcarson-2009]

Sorry,
8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare and Social Services by the American taxpayers. http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

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thcarson - EXCELLENT information!

I hadn''t seen it before - thanks for posting.

Looks like you missed #8

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rafterman1 - Come on - your point was well taken before the ''pull it out of the @ss'' comment. Can we drop the comments like that ?

Did she sponsor that bill eventually ?

[thcarson-2009]

I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL''s for verification of the following facts:


1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. http:// www.cis.org/articles/2004/f iscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

[thcarson-2009]

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html


6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

[thcarson-2009]

9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that''s two-and-a-half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US. http://transcripts.cnn.com/T RANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report. http://tinyurl.com/t9sht / SPAN

12. The National Policy Institute, "estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period." http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf


13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm


14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million *** Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States". http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml



Total cost is a whooping... $338.3 BILLION A YEAR!!!

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ubrew12 - at this date, I would agree, 6 months more probably would not have made a difference.

When the events were taking place, we didn''t know what was going on inside of Iraq, and Saddam was changing his statements every other day. Unbeknownst to us he was trying to keep Iran on their toes.

But to our ineffective information and intelligence agencies, it loooked like Saddam was stalling. The dictator had used chemical weapons in both his war with Iran and on his own people.

I believe, given the response by almost everyone at the time, that the unspoken thought was he was working on a weapon system to thwart us from doing exactly what did happen to him in the long run.

His vacilation in granting access, then removing it, was done several times, inspite of UN demands otherwise.

At what point would it have been prudent to say enough is enough and attack him ? The concern was that losses of our troops would be higher the longer we waited.

[culturechang]

While most earmarks are waste, managing noxious weeds is good cause. If you think nonnative infestations are not an issue, take a look at Georgia and the Kedzu vines that have invaded and overtaken just about all the natural vegetation. The stuff isn''t native to North America.

Someone needs to earmark money to deal with the infestion of zebra mussels into our fresh water. They are creeping across the country and destoying natural habitats....and no one seems to care...yet. The fix will be much more expensive later.

[eric_8-2009]

Fuzzy, you are appreciated. Now put that genius brain to work and solve this, will ya!!

[fuzzybear9]

Ok I`m sorry but, but my brain has never been the same since quantum mechanics.
maybe we should be concerned with goverment waste.

Sincerely your all fuzzed up Bear
Fuzzy

[shingles1]

2007 there were $29 billion in earmarks, in 2008 there are about $20 billion in earmarks. In 2008 the total budget is $2,814 billion, and discretionary spending is an additional $870 billion. You take away the earmarks and the government is still spending more than $2,794 billion dollars a year - meaning that earmarks are less than 1 percent of the total budget.

Point being, earmarks are a waste, yes - but they''re also a diversion - focusing on them ignores the other billions upon billions of dollars in wasteful government spending.

Or, for those opposed to the Iraq War, the total amount of earmarks for the year is the same as what we spend in Iraq over the course of three months.

[liberalme]

I think we need oversight for the overseers, that oversee what the oversighters may miss.

Now that said, we need oversight or is it insight--no matter, we need not to be shortsighted when it comes to earmarks.
With oversighters and overseers, one would think an earmark would be forseen as something unnecessary and require a detailed examination before we serve "pork" for dinner.

What we need is oversight FOR the taxpayers! Why does an "earmark" have to be "outside" the normal review?

Are our taxes divided up into whats necessary and what could be used as pork? As if we Americans couldn''t use a little extra "pork" on our own tables.

Congress wants pork--let them pay for it--we need to vote all these people out in November--they have done little to nothing for Americans.

HeII, anyone of us could have done a better job than these deep pocket thieves.

[eric_8-2009]

Aren''t we all getting into a diferent, bigger topic? This is a forum on pork spending. Are we, or are we not against congress spending taxpayer money on pet projects to perpetuate their jobs? I know my boss wouldn''t like it if I spent his company money like that.

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theUSA1st - interesting figures. Did you have a site on this ?

[pollroller1]

Both the Demos and Repugs are nothing but a bunch of money sucking S O Bs. They are sucking the very life blood out of our once great country. I wish there was a way to take our country back. I am registered as a Democrat, but I am thinking about changing over to Independent.

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exCoachKen - I''m sure typing your last post made you feel good. But, did it do good ?

So, I may not be perfect in this respect, but let me point out something Ken. Name calling is not debating. All it serves to do is reduce the reader''s respect of the poster, and push the two parties apart.

I respect the fact that you don''t like what''s happening in the war on terror. I don''t agree with your opinion, but that''s ok - everyone gets one.

It also helps if folks give more than an opinion when posting here. For example, saying that he lied is a pretty broad statement. Giving an exact quote, citing where it came from makes your post much more effective, unless you want to accomplish only those points I stated in my second paragraph.

If you will try to do this, I''ll try harder too. Fair enough ?

[theusa1st]

McCain has an earmark that costs 450 million a day. It is called the Iraq War.

Posted by gronamox

Both parties cause us to spend over 300 billion dollars a year on illegal imigrants...that is over 25 billion dollars per month...that''s our national deficit for the year.