Comments on: Superdelegates Being Courted By Big Names

Despite Phone Calls From Bill Clinton And Breakfasts With Chelsea, They Tell Harry Smith Their Decision Is Personal

[b-easy63]

Posted by Cas2dy at 05:30 PM : Feb 12, 2008


super Delegates are party insiders that are given a personal vote and then can vote again to help pick a nominee. The Dem party came up with this idea after Carter was elected. See, Carter was NOT the choice of the Dems-it was the people''s choice. In petulance, the Dem congress hamstrung their CIC and decided never again could they leave the vote up to common people. So they came up with a new game plan in 1980 that stated that Congressmen, pundits, and those who had been loyal to the party for years could have super votes. There are 796 superdelegates adn they can vote for whomever is running on the Dem ticket. The problem is, to get their votes, they are promised plum jobs, money, positions, and power. IN short they are bought, Whoever offers the best--gets the delegate so their votes are for sale. An SD vote is worth 20% of the votes for the entire election. So in a close race the SD has the votes to make or break a winner and they usually do it on which one is the most insider--this favors the status quo. But it also is very dangerous. For instance, the SD could pick the losing candidate just because they like them better, or want to reestablish old rule or get better offers. this means in the end, the voters do not decide their candidate, but those who are being bought off, will. next post

[b-easy63]

Here is a sample letter to the DNC---feel free

Concerning the super delegates--if they move to retain the status quo and nullify the vote of the people n favor of their "pick" my family (15, I influence) will vote Republican in the fall. In addition, as many as I can influence (and that is usually a lot) will either not vote or will join me in supporting McCAin. The rationale being, that if the DNC chooses to impose cronyism and their will above the voters as if we don''t matter, then we WILL matter in another way. Further, Michigan and FL forfeited their right to have their delegates counted. "Either a new primary for them is taken or the DNC stands by their punitive measure. These games are the clarion call of a loser who wants to hedge his/her bets--but I can tell you now, if anyone does not have the delegates but is chosen based on back room delegates voting twice or casting the decisive vote--you will see an exodus of dems and Independents such as cannot be imagined and you WILL at least lose the White HOuse if not seats in Congress. We are not kidding.
we will not go quietly into the night, -cram Clinton or Obama down our throats--and the Democrats will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. AGAIN.

[b-easy63]

Let the DNC know how you feel about the Super Delegates getting 2 votes. Keep in mind, no matter who you are for, that they might just broker a deal for the other guy and not your choice--a system distilled down to bribes is no democratic system at all--

http://www.democrats.org/page/s/contact

[je_vallejo]

The Superdelegates will jump of the Clinton ship like rats when water gets high enough. Most of the one who committed early must be looking for political favors and when it becomes clear there''s dry land close (Obama), the rats will find their way there.

Remember a time when a President said it depends what the meaning of %u201Cis%u201D is. Remember a time when someone committed suicide with a gun 3 feet away and rolled his body up afterwards with the subsequent investigation lead by the nation%u2019s elite police(the National Park Service). Remember an era of bullying and political trades like NAFTA. Remember an election lost by Gore because of a President%u2019s poor judgment which lead to the Iraq war. Remember a couple who always blame the Republicans, the blacks, the press, and %u2026just keep filling in the blanks as this changes with convenience. Remember the face of an angry Bill outraged that blacks would vote for someone other than his wife.

Remember Hillary voted and supported the Iraq war. Obama did not.

Ask yourself do you really believe the Clintons tell the truth? Do you believe the Clintons are power hungry? Did the Clintons accomplish health care reform with 8 years in Office? Did the Clintons do anything about Al Queida when they were in power? Do you really want Bill chasing interns in the White House again?

Its time for a change. Its time for Obama.

[tibu987]

Cas2dy
Strangely, a Democratic Super Delegate is a person selected by their peers to attend the national Democratic Convention, each State has a certain number, the larger the State the more delegates it has, about 761 in all. In addition to the regular electoral votes that a candidate gets for receiving a percentage of the votes in each State, the Super Delegate votes (761) can be given to whomever they want whenever they want. It is an anomaly that should be corrected as it is patently unfair.
Example, Obama could win the popular vote but the Super Delegates could give their "super" votes to Hillary and thus, possibly, Hillary would be declared the winner if it totaled more than those of Obama. Think about it, sounds likes a very unfair possibility to me.

[ringading3]

It is all over, and you can now go home. The SUPER DELEGATES will lock the door to the back room, light up their cigars (Cuban of course) and decide who will be the nominee for the Democratic Party. That is how The Party of the People operates.

[user168-2009]

I REALLY hate showing my ignorance, especially a6t my age (I ain''''t tellin'''') but please, could someone explain to me exactly what a Super Delegate is?
Thanks for any replies....
Cas

Posted by Cas2dy


Hi Cas2dy,

Here is a site that may help answer your question:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18914920

[Cas2dy]

I REALLY hate showing my ignorance, especially a6t my age (I ain''t tellin'') but please, could someone explain to me exactly what a Super Delegate is?
Thanks for any replies....
Cas

[tibu987]

"NOTICE TO THE DEMOCRATIC SUPER DELEGATES".
My concern now is the course for the Super Delegates to take. They had best honor our votes and give their "Super Electoral Votes" to the popular vote of the people. Our voices, our votes, had better be taken seriously or I see a rise in revolt against the electoral system, the Democratic Party, and the politicians that used their votes against our choice.
Should Obama NOT receive the Super Delegates vote if he wins by plurality, I will vote for the Green Party candidate and protest loudly against that obvious lack of honesty with the electorate.

[user168-2009]

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