Comments on: Bill Clinton: U.S. Invaded Iraq Too Soon

During Interview To Promote His Book "Giving," Says U.N. Inspectors Needed More Time

[speakinup]

IdlePugilist - I believe the part that rankles the conservatives Bill Clinton''s lying about Monica was the way he did it. Shaking his finger at the public was kind of saying, and don''t you dare ever say I''m lying about this.

And, while I try to be sensitive about people points of view, conservatives don''t believe Bush has ever mislead on purpose.

That distinction is a powerful one. It does make you want to distrust him forever.

[formrusmcsgt]

To be honest, this is the first time that I have seen this claim attributed to Kucinich. I have met him before, and heard him speak several times, and this was not my impression of him.

If you are referring to his inflexible stance in opposition of the catastrophic debacle in Iraq, and in favor of impeachment for *** Cheney, then I am strongly in support of inflexibility on these topics.

Do you have a favorite candidate in the running?


Posted by FeelFree1 at 04:38 PM : Dec 10, 2007


I am referring to the last time hed had the big chair, as mayor of Cleveland.

In the book Best and Worst of the Big-City Leaders, 1820%u20131993, Melvin G. Holli, in consultation with a panel of experts, placed Kucinich among the ten worst big-city mayors of all time for reasons of temperament and performance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Kucinich

I have only eliminated several candidates, but not found one for my vote as yet from the remaining ones.

[feelfree1]

Re: "Your best friend Abdoul returned from worktrip."

Good to see you back, Abdoul.

[donbl1]

Formr, "polarizing" as to "politically" polarizing of the electorate.

[donbl1]

J, you are dreaming. ***** Bill said he was against the war from the beginning. That is classical Clintonesque = parsing previous statements for room to change positions.

Even the NYT called him a liar.

[formrusmcsgt]

J, I did not say Bush was not polarizing. He is polarizing but the Clintons are every bit his equal.

Posted by donbl1 at 04:36 PM : Dec 10, 2007

Oh really? The last six years of Clinton''s presidency were spent with a Repub-controlled Congress.

Are you trying to contend that Clinton was as inept or polarizing as Bush when it comes to ruling with an opposition Congress?

Careful now.....

[j-whitman]

dontb1,,, I''m just suprised you can say anything about Clinton polarizing after this administration --- What Clinton has said was no different than what most people in the world have been saying for 4 years.

[abdoul_pasha]

Your best friend Abdoul returned from worktrip. If you miss me you can write: [e-mail]

[feelfree1]

formrusmcsgt,

Re: "I admit that I am surprised by your response, feelfree1."

"First of all, that you would consider Paul, an avowed John Bircher."

You brought this issue to my attention, and I appreciate that. While I see Ron Paul as more of a Libertarian than anything else, I see his campaign as having the potential to reclaim a "conservative" position within the Republican Party (fiscal responsibility, anti-big-bureaucracy, civil liberties, etc.)

People refer to the Bush regime as conservatives, and I disagree with this description. They seem to have tipped their hands as being run-of-the-mill Fascists, instead.

I share your concerns about Ron Paul, but he does seen to offer a radical departure from our current course, and I am in favor of this. I also think that he has a far better chance of being heard than any progressive voice does from the Democrats.

Re: "Secondly that you would consider Kucinich, who has a reputation of being inflexible and autocratic..."

To be honest, this is the first time that I have seen this claim attributed to Kucinich. I have met him before, and heard him speak several times, and this was not my impression of him.

If you are referring to his inflexible stance in opposition of the catastrophic debacle in Iraq, and in favor of impeachment for *** Cheney, then I am strongly in support of inflexibility on these topics.

Do you have a favorite candidate in the running?

[jowand]

MSLDN NOV 28th 2007
GEIST: Everything you said about Bill Clinton is true. But don''t you find it a little more outrageous that the man who was actually one of the architects of the war would change the story of the war?

SCARBOROUGH: Well, sure. It affects us more now. But I''m saying that the Bush administration just didn''t wake up one day and say, "Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction." When I was in Congress, and we heard the Clinton administration in ''97, in ''98, in ''99, in 2000, saying Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. Then it was the Democratic Party that was pushing us to take military action against Iraq, to scramble jets, to send missiles in there. So you have two administrations that had been pushing war in Iraq, that had been talking about Saddam Hussein having weapons of mass destruction, who I guess last night just decided maybe if we just tell the people of Iowa and the country and the world that we were against the war, maybe they''ll believe us.