Comments on: Gore Defends Live Earth Concerts, Self

Says Participating Performers Aren't Hypocritical, And He's Not Using Event To Further Presidential Aspirations

[slipster01]

"I did. I was in a PhD program in Atmospheric Science 20 years ago, but left and returned to get my Masters in Engineering cuz I couldn't handle the math. Twenty years ago, Global Warming was a 'no-brainer' amongst that crowd.
Posted by ubrew12 at 03:14 AM : Jul 07, 2007"

Shows how much you know. 20 years ago they were raving about a coming Ice Age, moron.
And we're supposed to believe that, because you couldn't handle the math, you went into engineering, which requires a heck of a lot of math itself?
If Climate was beyond your grasp because of math, you sure couldn't get Engineering down.

As for this "carbon-offset" scam, think of this:
The celebs say they'll pay for a re-forestation project to offset the pollution they create today. But a reforestation project would take 3 to 5 GENERATIONS (60 to 100 years) to offset that amount of pollution attributed to one day/one celeb.

People are so worked up about stopping a natural cycle of climate change, rather than doing what humans have always done: ADAPT!

Explain to me why we have global warming, not just here, but also on Mars, Jupiter AND Saturn at the same time? Read up on the various solar cycles and their effect on climate, then maybe you can go back and get your degree.

Don't make us laugh.

[slipster01]

"I did. I was in a PhD program in Atmospheric Science 20 years ago, but left and returned to get my Masters in Engineering cuz I couldn't handle the math. Twenty years ago, Global Warming was a 'no-brainer' amongst that crowd.
Posted by ubrew12 at 03:14 AM : Jul 07, 2007"

Shows how much you know. 20 years ago they were raving about a coming Ice Age, moron.
And we're supposed to believe that, because you couldn't handle the math, you went into engineering, which requires a heck of a lot of math itself?
If Climate was beyond your grasp because of math, you sure couldn't get Engineering down.

As for this "carbon-offset" scam, think of this:
The celebs say they'll pay for a re-forestation project to offset the pollution they create today. But a reforestation project would take 3 to 5 GENERATIONS (60 to 100 years) to offset that amount of pollution attributed to one day/one celeb.

People are so worked up about stopping a natural cycle of climate change, rather than doing what humans have always done: ADAPT!

Explain to me why we have global warming, not just here, but also on Mars, Jupiter AND Saturn at the same time? Read up on the various solar cycles and their effect on climate, then maybe you can go back and get your degree.

Don't make us laugh.

[slipster01]

"I did. I was in a PhD program in Atmospheric Science 20 years ago, but left and returned to get my Masters in Engineering cuz I couldn't handle the math. Twenty years ago, Global Warming was a 'no-brainer' amongst that crowd.
Posted by ubrew12 at 03:14 AM : Jul 07, 2007"

Shows how much you know. 20 years ago they were raving about a coming Ice Age, moron.
And we're supposed to believe that, because you couldn't handle the math, you went into engineering, which requires a heck of a lot of math itself?
If Climate was beyond your grasp because of math, you sure couldn't get Engineering down.

As for this "carbon-offset" scam, think of this:
The celebs say they'll pay for a re-forestation project to offset the pollution they create today. But a reforestation project would take 3 to 5 GENERATIONS (60 to 100 years) to offset that amount of pollution attributed to one day/one celeb.

People are so worked up about stopping a natural cycle of climate change, rather than doing what humans have always done: ADAPT!

Explain to me why we have global warming, not just here, but also on Mars, Jupiter AND Saturn at the same time? Read up on the various solar cycles and their effect on climate, then maybe you can go back and get your degree.

Don't make us laugh.

[slipster01]

"I did. I was in a PhD program in Atmospheric Science 20 years ago, but left and returned to get my Masters in Engineering cuz I couldn't handle the math. Twenty years ago, Global Warming was a 'no-brainer' amongst that crowd.
Posted by ubrew12 at 03:14 AM : Jul 07, 2007"

Shows how much you know. 20 years ago they were raving about a coming Ice Age, moron.
And we're supposed to believe that, because you couldn't handle the math, you went into engineering, which requires a heck of a lot of math itself?
If Climate was beyond your grasp because of math, you sure couldn't get Engineering down.

As for this "carbon-offset" scam, think of this:
The celebs say they'll pay for a re-forestation project to offset the pollution they create today. But a reforestation project would take 3 to 5 GENERATIONS (60 to 100 years) to offset that amount of pollution attributed to one day/one celeb.

People are so worked up about stopping a natural cycle of climate change, rather than doing what humans have always done: ADAPT!

Explain to me why we have global warming, not just here, but also on Mars, Jupiter AND Saturn at the same time? Read up on the various solar cycles and their effect on climate, then maybe you can go back and get your degree.

Don't make us laugh.

[slipster01]

"I did. I was in a PhD program in Atmospheric Science 20 years ago, but left and returned to get my Masters in Engineering cuz I couldn't handle the math. Twenty years ago, Global Warming was a 'no-brainer' amongst that crowd.
Posted by ubrew12 at 03:14 AM : Jul 07, 2007"

Shows how much you know. 20 years ago they were raving about a coming Ice Age, moron.
And we're supposed to believe that, because you couldn't handle the math, you went into engineering, which requires a heck of a lot of math itself?
If Climate was beyond your grasp because of math, you sure couldn't get Engineering down.

As for this "carbon-offset" scam, think of this:
The celebs say they'll pay for a re-forestation project to offset the pollution they create today. But a reforestation project would take 3 to 5 GENERATIONS (60 to 100 years) to offset that amount of pollution attributed to one day/one celeb.

People are so worked up about stopping a natural cycle of climate change, rather than doing what humans have always done: ADAPT!

Explain to me why we have global warming, not just here, but also on Mars, Jupiter AND Saturn at the same time? Read up on the various solar cycles and their effect on climate, then maybe you can go back and get your degree.

Don't make us laugh.

[slipster01]

"I did. I was in a PhD program in Atmospheric Science 20 years ago, but left and returned to get my Masters in Engineering cuz I couldn't handle the math. Twenty years ago, Global Warming was a 'no-brainer' amongst that crowd.
Posted by ubrew12 at 03:14 AM : Jul 07, 2007"

Shows how much you know. 20 years ago they were raving about a coming Ice Age, moron.
And we're supposed to believe that, because you couldn't handle the math, you went into engineering, which requires a heck of a lot of math itself?
If Climate was beyond your grasp because of math, you sure couldn't get Engineering down.

As for this "carbon-offset" scam, think of this:
The celebs say they'll pay for a re-forestation project to offset the pollution they create today. But a reforestation project would take 3 to 5 GENERATIONS (60 to 100 years) to offset that amount of pollution attributed to one day/one celeb.

People are so worked up about stopping a natural cycle of climate change, rather than doing what humans have always done: ADAPT!

Explain to me why we have global warming, not just here, but also on Mars, Jupiter AND Saturn at the same time? Read up on the various solar cycles and their effect on climate, then maybe you can go back and get your degree.

Don't make us laugh.

[slipster01]

"I did. I was in a PhD program in Atmospheric Science 20 years ago, but left and returned to get my Masters in Engineering cuz I couldn't handle the math. Twenty years ago, Global Warming was a 'no-brainer' amongst that crowd.
Posted by ubrew12 at 03:14 AM : Jul 07, 2007"

Shows how much you know. 20 years ago they were raving about a coming Ice Age, moron.
And we're supposed to believe that, because you couldn't handle the math, you went into engineering, which requires a heck of a lot of math itself?
If Climate was beyond your grasp because of math, you sure couldn't get Engineering down.

As for this "carbon-offset" scam, think of this:
The celebs say they'll pay for a re-forestation project to offset the pollution they create today. But a reforestation project would take 3 to 5 GENERATIONS (60 to 100 years) to offset that amount of pollution attributed to one day/one celeb.

People are so worked up about stopping a natural cycle of climate change, rather than doing what humans have always done: ADAPT!

Explain to me why we have global warming, not just here, but also on Mars, Jupiter AND Saturn at the same time? Read up on the various solar cycles and their effect on climate, then maybe you can go back and get your degree.

Don't make us laugh.

[ressigmann]

"Gore insisted to Smith that Live Earth will set "a new green standard" for the music industry"

Why does it seem that that standard is "you cut greenhouse gases while we use all we want".

[infidel_us]

AJMarine1,
Don't ya just LOVE thee global warming zombies? They say, "sea levels will rise 20 ft of more!" The UN says, "5 to 10 ft." In actual fact, it MAY rise a foot in the next 50 years!

You are correct. The earth is a HUGE engine. An elementary study of thermodynamics and/or heat transfer would clearly show that mankind is incapable of affecting weather on the earth.

It's like the loones who want to "drop an atomic bomb" in the middle of a hurricane to "break it up." LOL

[ubrew12]

To S_Temper:
I've been to Moscow. In the evenings, the cigarette girls come out and sell unfiltered Marlboro's to the Muscovites: cancer with boobs! And its legal there to drink on the sidewalk, beer with twice the alcohol content of our beer. No wonder the life expectancy of the average Russian male is now 57yrs, and dropping. These are your pals at Heartland: this is what they are doing to the world.

Great company you're in!

[ubrew12]

S_Temper said: "Buy a college textbook and study the topics you mouth off about, instead of quoting environmental alarmists who get paid to make you look foolish."

I did. I was in a PhD program in Atmospheric Science 20 years ago, but left and returned to get my Masters in Engineering cuz I couldn't handle the math. Twenty years ago, Global Warming was a 'no-brainer' amongst that crowd. I guess it's taken that long for the tobacco-oil lobbyists to figure it out. If I sound bitter, it's cuz in all that time you guys have been scr*wing the American public with your obfuscation: and it's all gotten just a little too putrid for my blood. Hey, scr*w the environment all you want: I know what's going down and have prepared for it. Actually, I don't think global warming is such a big deal, unless you live near current sea levels, in which case you are scr*wed. What's a big deal, is this ability for corporate America to hoodwink a nation as big as America for twenty years about something as obvious and critical as Global Warming. What you and Heartland represent, is DEFINITELY not the America I was raised to believe in! And that's because I believe in SCIENCE, and any nation that fvcks science is headed for the dustbin of history. I want you to know what you represent to me: someone who would turn his back on the best science has to offer... and choose ignorance.

[ajmarine1]

Article from: "Coldheartedtruth"

Oldest DNA ever recovered shows warmer planet: report

Scientists who probed two kilometers (1.2 miles) through a Greenland glacier to recover the oldest plant DNA on record said Thursday the planet was far warmer hundreds of thousands of years ago than is generally believed.

They also indicated that during the last period between ice ages, 116,000-130,000 years ago, when temperatures were on average 5 C (9 F) higher than now, the glaciers on Greenland did not completely melt away.

So what does this tell us? Well... it tells us that we have at least another 5 degrees to go before we can start really being concerned about unprecedented problems with global warming. It also tells us that the planet can get considerably warmer than it is today with or without the help of aerosol spray cans and the burning of fossil fuels.

Now, does that mean that we don't have to get more environmentally friendly? Of course not. There are plenty of reasons for us to clean up the planet. But everyone dying due to global warming is probably not one of those reasons.

[ajmarine1]

How much CO2 does a volcano put out in a year?

[xzavierbrown]

the path to a better planet is forever nailed to the "awareness" stage..GORE AND THE REST OF THESE LIBERAL ENTERTAINERS ARE MAKING SURE IT STAYS THAT WAY.

[xzavierbrown]

I am sure the whole world is already AWARE OF GLOBAL WARMING..it should be past that..IT IS TIME TO ACT..singing and dancing is not acting..its called milking the cash cow.

I expect gore to beakon those liberals to rid of thier fiendish need for oil and such..TIME FOR SACRIFICE..enough with this cheap money making ploy..LORD ALMIGHTY..enough with this misguided philaptrophy bull cr ap..

[ubrew12]

S_Temper said: "Gore is wrong. Humans are not causing global warming: http://www.suntimes.com/news/otherviews/
450392,CST-EDT-REF30b.article"
Thanks for posting an article by the Heartland Institute, a free-market Thomas Friedman-type company with anything but an 'unbiased' view of Global Warming. Although Heartland calls itself "a genuinely independent source of research and commentary," its has been a frequent ally of the tobacco industry. In 2006 the Heartland Institute parntered with the National Association of Tobacco Outlets (NATO) in "a campaign to change public opinion about tobacco." Great, your friends want to hook us all on cigarettes.

Writer Glenn Fleishman characterized the institute as a "sock puppet of industry" and criticized its role as both a tobacco mouthpiece and an opponent of municipal wi-fi initiatives.

Heartland Institute has received $791,500 from ExxonMobil since 1998. I'm sure that's unrelated to their point of view.

How does it feel to be a corporate tool?

[tnt1954]

jits very simple. the normal body temperature
of a **** sapiens is 98.6 degrees. there are
6 billion **** sapiens (people) on earth
all radiating 98.6 degree heat. throw
in friction, and the heat increases.
still don't believe in things getting hotter
and hotter and hotter? if you wanna
get hot under the collar, consider electricity
bills of the near future. you'll get boiling
mad.

[ubrew12]

brianp55 said: "ubrew, Just wanted to let you know that the oceans are currently saturated with CO2 (if that's what you're referring to). They have reached their carrying capacity for this gas." No, I was referring to heat capacity. In the ocean/atmosphere system, only the atmosphere is capable of exchanging heat with the space environment through radiation. But the 900lb gorilla in the room is not the atmosphere, its the ocean. Its heat capacity is SOOO much greater than the atmospheres that a huge lag must appear (on the order of decades) between heating of the atmosphere and sensible temperature change in the ocean. But, that also means that any attempts to improve the CO2 in the atmosphere will take decades to have an affect on the oceans temperature. And that means that for the next few decades, any ice field melting and sea level rise is going to reflect 'global warming' of the last 50 years, NOT the current 50 years. There's going to be a lag. Think of the ocean as a 'heat battery': it charges up and charges down SLOOWWWLY. I think sea level rises of 5-10 feet are already a 'done deal'. Attempts at CO2 amelioration at this point will affect people 50 years from now, and whether sea level will rise 20 feet or more for them.

[weareone2]

SlipSter01
Your attempt to coopt this forum by loading it with your nonsense proves that you are not just ignorang. You are dishonest and trying to prevent honest messages from appearing. You have proved that your "message" is not worth reading.

[slipster01]

So, how does Al Gore and all the other miserable hypocrites involved in this sham justify it? "Oh, we can pollute all we want, because we have money, and can offset the damages we are doing by purchasing carbon offsets."

Yeah, here's an example. They'll pay for a reforestation project. Which, at best, will 'offset' the pollution one of the celebraties creates on this one day, but it'll take over 100 years to accomplish that amount of pollution reversal!

So, these jerks will continue to spout their views, and assuage their guilt by purchasing offsets which will have no impact fo the next 3 to 5 generations. They'll continue to create 10 to 100 times more pollution than the average person, and make money doing it by continuing to lie to everyone. They must be laughing themselves all the way to the bank, and millions of people are idiots for giving them any money to support change. The change ain't gonna happen, because these 'offsets' are a bogus flim-flam job, and you people have eaten it up.

Climate change is normal. It happens. You either adapt, as humans have in the past, or you don't. It's that simple