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Shanna Moakler: I Quit As Pageant Honcho Because Title Holder Carrie Prejean Waffles Too Much And Aligns Herself With Them
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- She was asked a question and answered it honestly. Which agrees with President Obama. Then the Anti American Liberals trash her for exercising her Freedom of Speech. The only reason she lost that pagent is because of that fudge packing judge that should have been disqualified as a judge once he trashed this lady. Yes I am a Bible thumbing, God Fearing, Gun Owning, Red ,White, and Blue Vetran. I believe Jack Bauer's method of interragation should be the minumum these Rag Heads get when they are caught. Anyone that thinks the Rag Heads do not treat our people worse then that our IDIOTS.
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- this is a shame. this whole thing is a shame. every american has a right to an opinion. you may not agree with carrie prejean, but she is entitled to her beliefs and her opinions without being demonized and assauted by leftist "hate groups".
meanwhile, take a look shanna moakler... just run a web search for "Travis Barker and Shanna Moakler". do you think she makes good choices in her life? carrie prejean is a wholesome, decent person who never wanted to offend anyone and yet, she is being attacked and criticized by this shanna moakler disgrace.
this is what's wrong with our country right now. stop all the hate, that means YOU leftist hacks. - Reply to this comment
- This slightly air-headed young woman does have the right of free speech, so she was right to honestly express the opinion she was taught. But it is also not surprising that she is a christian hypocrite (a redundancy, I know) and lied about her past posing for semi-nude photographs. I don't think those were wrong, per se. but the even organizers have the right to establish whatever rules they please. She knew what these rules were and doubtless signed a contract to follow them, then lied. But playing by the rules and honesty are not really christian practices, are they?
They preach love and tolerance, but only love and tolerate those that they choose. That means christians of the same sect. If anyone deviates a little bit, they are ostracized and condemned to hell. - Reply to this comment
- Moakler wouldn't know a hate group if they reached up and bit her. Apparently anyone who opposes s-s marriage is a hate group. Well I don't like s-s marriage either or homosexuality for that matter. They don't like it.....too bad....
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- Look, enough is enough. If they did not want to know her answer, thatn they should not have asked. Don't get upset because she didn't answer the way they wanted her to. Everyone has his/her opinion. Some may agree with her, some may not. That's life.
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- From gay marriage, to incest, to NAMBLA, ephd? Spiced with the Bible?
Can I use your logic, and state that - since Christianity preceded the Islamic religion, time-wise - that anybody who practices Christianity now is likely to become a radical Islamic fundamentalist who runs around blowing people up?
Posted by ibsteve2u at 10:05 AM : May 15, 2009
Not sure this is the same situation. In any event, this is an incredibly complex situation with complicated questions. I think the gay community wants this to be a black and white issue - "you are either with us all the way for same sex marriage, or a bogoted hate group." I disagree. - Reply to this comment
- There is little doubt that Miss Prejean has been singled out because she expressed her opinion and it seems that those who scream loudest for tolerance are strangely remiss when it comes to giving it.
The pretense of it all escapes me.
I wish nothing but good for all involved.
Posted by lost_america at 8:42 AM : May 15, 2009
Well said!!!!!!!!!! - Reply to this comment
- You see, blacks (who came out in record numbers to vote because of Obama) voted for Prop 8 (76% of them). If it wasn't for their votes, Prop 8 probably wouldn't have passed (52% of whites voted against it).
But hey, we aren't going to hear these hateful libs putting any blame on Obama. They will only use this as an excuse to bash people of faith.
Posted by ritewingman at 7:46 AM : May 15, 2009
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What difference does it make if the Blacks voted for Prop. 8, it concurred with the religion of most churches. What is your point on that? Sounds like a race card to me. President Obama, the churches, California and the majority of whites along with the blacks. What is your point? - Reply to this comment
- From gay marriage, to incest, to NAMBLA, ephd? Spiced with the Bible?
Can I use your logic, and state that - since Christianity preceded the Islamic religion, time-wise - that anybody who practices Christianity now is likely to become a radical Islamic fundamentalist who runs around blowing people up? - Reply to this comment
- 1. It disapproves people who genuinely love one another, even when that love has lasted several decades.
2. It approves fake boobs.
Posted by ubrew12 at 9:14 AM : May 15, 2009
Look, I know I am going to be attacked as parrot for the fox/rush media, but I think your comment #1 is an emotional argument that relies on feeling bad rather than logic. The fact that 2 people love each other and have been together for many decades does not mean we should call it marriage. This is a slippery slope.
What about incest? [...] NAMBLA's website (pro man-child relationships).
The real issue is why two people who love each other should not be able to care for each other, have visitation rights, adoption rights, and inheritance rights. That is why we should legalize civil unions with all the rights of marriage. But to call it marriage is wrong. Forget religion, if we use darwinism as a guide this is not normal behavior - it is in no way aimed at survival and procreation of one's genes.
Posted by ephd at 9:46 AM : May 15, 2009
Huh....hey, since Christianity preceded the Islamic religion, can I use the argument that those who practice Christianity now will inevitably become radical Islamic fundamentalists who run around blowing people up? - Reply to this comment
- To me Prejean represents two true statements about rightwing America:
1. It disapproves people who genuinely love one another, even when that love has lasted several decades.
2. It approves fake boobs.
Posted by ubrew12 at 9:14 AM : May 15, 2009
Look, I know I am going to be attacked as parrot for the fox/rush media, but I think your comment #1 is an emotional argument that relies on feeling bad rather than logic. The fact that 2 people love each other and have been together for many decades does not mean we should call it marriage. This is a slippery slope.
What about incest? If a brother and sister are in love should we deny thier love and refuse to marry them? How can be deny thier love and devotion? They are two consenting adults. True, it is dangerous for them to have kids (genetic issues) but they can adopt as do gay couples. Why should that be any different? If we ignore the bible as a guide to marriage then what stops incest from becomming the next group denied its civil rights.
Also, have you read NAMBLA's website (pro man-child relationships). They would say they are in loving relationships and the child of 14-15 years old is being denied his civil rights to make informed consent just because he has not reached an arbitrarily chosen age. Where does it end, if the only question is whether couples love each other?
The real issue is why two people who love each other should not be able to care for each other, have visitation rights, adoption rights, and inheritance rights. That is why we should legalize civil unions with all the rights of marriage. But to call it marriage is wrong. Forget religion, if we use darwinism as a guide this is not normal behavior - it is in no way aimed at survival and procreation of one's genes. - Reply to this comment
- The idiot Hilton or whatever his name supposed had an agenda of pushing gay-marriage. He should have done that in his blog and not in a beauty pageant. That is a question for candidates for Supreme court not beauty queens. She gave a very clear non-POLITICAL answer. I think America more straight-talking people like her.
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- All you pathetic liberals and conservatives can ****************! And don't worry, I've got one for each of you so you don't have to keep fighting.
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- ...liberalism has turned into a pseudo-religion...
Posted by ephd at 9:02 AM : May 15, 2009
No, you've just bought into the Neocon Political Correctness Dictionary, with the picture of the Strawman on the cover.
Since the fox/rush media has flailed away at redefining so much of the conversation, we even have large numbers of people that think 'socialism' is good stuff. And so many posts like yours are just a waste of time, since there's no recognizable standard of language...
Posted by actornaught at 9:26 AM : May 15, 2009
According to neo-repiglickkkers, Christianity is also a pseudo-religion since 70% of American Christians are either moderate or liberal in their political views. - Reply to this comment
- 1-Hilton didn't throw the question to her. She picked it!
2-So would've be OK, if she would've respond the same to a conservative jury who for sure would've liked it?
3-If she is so religious and defends Marriage as defined by law of nature and faith entities, why she got a plastic surgery? And on a sex exploitation asset ! Or she is planning on feeding her (future) babes on silicone?
4-The point here isn't the Sex Marriage issue. The point is that she is a layer, hypocrite.
5-"To me 'I was raised to believe...' is synonymous with 'I was told to believe...'. It says to me that she cannot think for herself and has yet to form her OWN opinion." - Reply to this comment
- ...liberalism has turned into a pseudo-religion...
Posted by ephd at 9:02 AM : May 15, 2009
No, you've just bought into the Neocon Political Correctness Dictionary, with the picture of the Strawman on the cover.
Since the fox/rush media has flailed away at redefining so much of the conversation, we even have large numbers of people that think 'socialism' is good stuff. And so many posts like yours are just a waste of time, since there's no recognizable standard of language... - Reply to this comment
- You don't approve of fake boobs????
???????
Posted by moderateminded44 at 9:23 AM : May 15, 2009
They don't feel the same...gives me the same feeling I get when I eat cottage cheese and am expecting one texture, and instead its slimy 'cuz somebody snuck low-fat cottage cheese into the menu.
Posted by ibsteve2u at 9:25 AM : May 15, 2009
haha, I hear that... - Reply to this comment
- You don't approve of fake boobs????
???????
Posted by moderateminded44 at 9:23 AM : May 15, 2009
They don't feel the same...gives me the same feeling I get when I eat cottage cheese and am expecting one texture, and instead its slimy 'cuz somebody snuck low-fat cottage cheese into the menu. - Reply to this comment
- To me Prejean represents two true statements about rightwing America:
1. It disapproves people who genuinely love one another, even when that love has lasted several decades.
2. It approves fake boobs.
Posted by ubrew12 at 9:14 AM : May 15, 2009
You don't approve of fake boobs????
??????? - Reply to this comment
- To me Prejean represents two true statements about rightwing America:
1. It disapproves people who genuinely love one another, even when that love has lasted several decades.
2. It approves fake boobs. - Reply to this comment
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