Comments on: HPV Vaccine Linked To Teen's Paralysis?

Her Father Thinks Gardasil Might Be; Drug's Maker Denies It

[drinuk]

barbaraf4, You missed it Dear, they are already suggesting that course of action as a way of doubling their profit.

[barbaraf4]

If it''s so safe, why don''t we give this vaccine to the teenage boys? Afterall, they are the carriers who give HPV to our daughters.

[susanhelit]

Hundreds of thousands have tried this vaccine, with no problems - it had to go through a decade of testing to hit the market. One person getting a problem that also happens randomly doesn''t mean anything other than a bit of bad luck.

As to autism - I can''t believe anyone is so gullible as to buy that one - and sad thing is many children have died due to being unvaccinated by parents scared by hype and fear. Every single study checking for any link between autism and vaccines has clearly shown that the same percentage of unvaccinated kids become autistic, at the same age, as vaccinated kids. There is simply no link. Just an unfortunate coincidence that childhood vaccines happen at the same time as autism usually shows up.

Hundreds of thousands die every year from cervical cancer. It''s sad to think that many of them could have been saved, and that some of those now may not due to fear from one singular coincidence.

[drinuk]

MyOpinion1. Get Off this page, You are part of this evil regime, you are a Big Pharma plant !

This vaccine is very suspect and those who pushed it including the FDA should be strung up.

Parents, like MMR, keep your children away from this poison, it is not about your child''s health, it''s about big bucks and Big Pharma corruption.

[denn034]

Liberals tout this vaccine as a defense against the STD that is HPV that''s life threatening but, those side effects argue strongly against the use of such.

[barbaraf4]

"Why not just dont have s3x with other humans and avoid ALL std''s and this cancer as well as pregnancy." Posted by newster1
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You must be one of the religious lunatic fringe. Most NORMAL species on this planet enjoy s*e*xual contact with others. If you do not know what a Pap exam is, then ask. It has nothing to do with limiting your s*e*xual activities, and it does not inject any foreign substance into your body.

[shippg-2009]

I just read their blog. It is definitely worth it. Very sincere and tragic family.

http:// www. jenjensfamily. blogspot. com/

[bjrober]

We have so many autistic children we care for and they are now thinking the vaccines they give these children might cause the autism.

[sistatee-2009]

How many other "helpful" drugs were Jenny''s "helpful" parents pumping into her?

[papabc]

This drug will the the death of many. It is being rushed to the market before it should have been.

You may not see the results today but in 1 generation the results will tell. They may show up in your children''s children.
As in many drugs that are put out before they are ready so that the industry can reap the big $$$.

[ra3628]

My comment is to the editor.. Has the writer of this article taken any grammar lessons?

[rebetroyer]

Your body will become immune to what is necessary. Wouldn''t it be better to maintain a healthy immune system so that your body can fight off dangers on it''s own? I know, this seems extreme. My real point is that it doesn''t make sense to jump on this new bandwagon. Personally, I would never give this to my child. However, I might consider other vaccines. My husband chose to give it to his daughter...I supported their decision, but I am quite concerned. Is there going to be a time when we return to the way my parents thought? I grew up in a home that relied upon homeopathic cures and only used "Western" medication when absolutely necessary. Would this really be so bad? I''m a HS teacher and it breaks my heart to see all of these misguided teenagers. Where are their parents and why aren''t they teaching them to protect themselves? Giving medicine and unnecessary vaccines are not the answer to everything. I swear, I''m even concerned about the spray sunblock I''ve been using. I wouldn''t be surprised to find out in 20 years that it really doesn''t protect as well as stated. In my opinion, medicine is not always the answer and when it is, it''s best to make sure its been around long enough to be proven effective.

[rebetroyer]

Your body will become immune to what is necessary. Wouldn''t it be better to maintain a healthy immune system so that your body can fight off dangers on it''s own? I know, this seems extreme. My real point is that it doesn''t make sense to jump on this new bandwagon. Personally, I would never give this to my child. However, I might consider other vaccines. My husband chose to give it to his daughter...I supported their decision, but I am quite concerned. Is there going to be a time when we return to the way my parents thought? I grew up in a home that relied upon homeopathic cures and only used "Western" medication when absolutely necessary. Would this really be so bad? I''m a HS teacher and it breaks my heart to see all of these misguided teenagers. Where are their parents and why aren''t they teaching them to protect themselves? Giving medicine and unnecessary vaccines are not the answer to everything. I swear, I''m even concerned about the spray sunblock I''ve been using. I wouldn''t be surprised to find out in 20 years that it really doesn''t protect as well as stated. In my opinion, medicine is not always the answer and when it is, it''s best to make sure its been around long enough to be proven effective.

[rebetroyer]

Your body will become immune to what is necessary. Wouldn''t it be better to maintain a healthy immune system so that your body can fight off dangers on it''s own? I know, this seems extreme. My real point is that it doesn''t make sense to jump on this new bandwagon. Personally, I would never give this to my child. However, I might consider other vaccines. My husband chose to give it to his daughter...I supported their decision, but I am quite concerned. Is there going to be a time when we return to the way my parents thought? I grew up in a home that relied upon homeopathic cures and only used "Western" medication when absolutely necessary. Would this really be so bad? I''m a HS teacher and it breaks my heart to see all of these misguided teenagers. Where are their parents and why aren''t they teaching them to protect themselves? Giving medicine and unnecessary vaccines are not the answer to everything. I swear, I''m even concerned about the spray sunblock I''ve been using. I wouldn''t be surprised to find out in 20 years that it really doesn''t protect as well as stated. In my opinion, medicine is not always the answer and when it is, it''s best to make sure its been around long enough to be proven effective.

[toldyouso12]

Most likely, Jenny would have gotten sick with or without the vaccine.
Posted by SusanHelit at 02:20 PM : Jul 07, 2008


It may not be a coincidence. It may be that genetically, there is some trigger between the vaccine and the ingredients in the vaccine (excipients) and the patient. Viral vaccines are not new drugs, they are either weakened or dead parts of the real virus taken from the wild strain. When you get a viral vaccine, you are either getting a "killed virus" or an attenuated virus. This means that the protein that makes up the virus is introduced into the body or that a weaker version of the virus is introduced. Either way, that protein coat from the virus causes the body to react. Sometimes that reaction is overkill and the body begins to attack itself. Sometimes, the weakened virus turns out to be not so weak and can kill the patient. The fact that the symptoms was/is not cervical cancer but paralysis, trends toward the child''s body having an adverse reaction which caused her cells to attack themselves.

This happens--if no genetic cross correlation was done, it may happen more as people near the 3rd shot. She may have been predisposed to certain illnesses, but introduction of poorly tested substances could also be the trigger. This product is problematic and will continue to be so--and no one should faint in significant numbers after taking a vaccine--unless it is producing other results not anticipated.

[toldyouso12]

Posted by shippg at 11:00 AM : Jul 07, 2008


clinical trials for most drugs are 3 to 5 years. But most drugs can NEVER cover the myriad of human conditions nor can they mimic environmental factors, individual genetics, or the dozens of medications that can have contraindications when mixed. Testing is done with control subjects that scientists hope will reflect the average, healthy person''s condition.

If there is any anomaly, or taking of cold meds or anything that is slightly different, the long term result can be different for that one person or it can be a broad enough difference to have the same negative effect on many people. Most researchers know, when putting a new drug on the market--that the real place to find out if it is safe or not is in the market place, on real humans over a period of years. This means that many products are not safe and that the way YOU and your family will find out is after the 3rd shot, while living your life--and then it falls apart--when enough have that happen, as in the case of Phen Phen , Tetracycline and other products--the drug is then pulled, restudied and deemed a killer or its use in modified--but whatever the case, the damage it will have done to you and yours is permanent. HPV is NOT an STD--you don''t get it from your husband it is a virus. We still don''t know if it is predisposed genetically in some women. We do know that this drug has way too many adverse affects right out the gate to be considered safe.

[toldyouso12]

Unfortunately, it will take hundreds of cases similar to this one before the FDA will act to retest or assess this drug. Why? Billions at stake in revenue and lawsuits. That''s why--in the mean time, all those who go ahead are participating in a great experiment on their children.

Fact: most deleterious effects of drugs are found out with the patients as human guinea pigs over time. Clinical trials rarely mimic real life and data is often tailored to minimize bad results--esp. prior to submitting to the FDA. It will take years before the FDA has enough deaths or paralysis or other adverse effects and can pull this drug. That''s years and millions of girls who cannot be saved. Think Thalidomide, or Phen-Phen or other killers that only came to light after millions were already destroyed.

My girls will NOT be getting this vaccine. Stop participating in human guinea pig experiments--just because the FDA says a drug is safe, does not mean that it is--with billions involved--MDA can get quickly approved even while the jury is still out. See Generic Drug scandals of the 1980s.

[toldyouso12]

Several things wrong with this story, if one speaks in scientific jargon: first the reference to casual association.

"Merck, Gardasil''s maker, disputes that, saying in a statement, "Based on the facts that we''ve received, the information does not suggest that this event was causally associated with vaccination."

TRANSLATION: ''We have negative or questionable data from longer term studies; but YOU don''t and the public can''t prove anything without years and years of clinical data, and we will try to punch holes in that, if we have to.''

This means the company is saying you can''t prove anything by this one case, so there.

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Since the Food and Drug Administration approved Gardasil in 2006, some 8 million girls have received at least one of the three shots, with 13 million injections administered in all, the FDA says....
"...but still, the FDA, CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) have not linked her case with Gardasil."

Putting things in perspective, Phillips said, "It has been tested on thousands and thousands of women before it ever hit the market. And, already, 8 million women have gotten the shot."

TRANSLATION: At least 8 million girls have gotten at least one shot and we know this has nothing to do with the fact that all 8 million had one shot when paralysis showed up after the 3rd shot, plus, the FDA has not called us on it yet and until they do, we get to say the product is safe and avoid lawsuits" see next post

[psk123-2009]

susieq_13 wrote:
Never, never trust a vaccine that hasn''''t been out long enough. I nearly lost my 17 yr old daughter when she was 2 months old due to her very 1st set of immunizations. Now she has the mind of a one month old b/c of the vaccines the government says are ok. Ha, what a joke the FDA is.


I have to agree with this. Shortly after taking a final round of shots my twins suddenly went from healthy babies to spiking fevers of 105.6 and 106.5, going into sezure and stopped breathing. They are now 20 years old and still can not remember things. My next child died after the first round of shots. Six years after the twins episode, my then youngest had the same reaction at the same age. Coincidence? I think not.

Thirty-six immunizations by the time a child is three years old is way too many. Many have heavy metals as a preservative. My youngest child (a suprise meopause baby) will not get any of these shots.

[rebetroyer]

Your body will become immune to what is necessary. Wouldn''t it be better to maintain a healthy immune system so that your body can fight off dangers on it''s own? I know, this seems extreme. My real point is that it doesn''t make sense to jump on this new bandwagon. Personally, I would never give this to my child. However, I might consider other vaccines. My husband chose to give it to his daughter...I supported their decision, but I am quite concerned. Is there going to be a time when we return to the way my parents thought? I grew up in a home that relied upon homeopathic cures and only used "Western" medication when absolutely necessary. Would this really be so bad? I''m a HS teacher and it breaks my heart to see all of these misguided teenagers. Where are their parents and why aren''t they teaching them to protect themselves? Giving medicine and unnecessary vaccines are not the answer to everything. I swear, I''m even concerned about the spray sunblock I''ve been using. I wouldn''t be surprised to find out in 20 years that it really doesn''t protect as well as stated. In my opinion, medicine is not always the answer and when it is, it''s best to make sure its been around long enough to be proven effective.