Comments on: Obesity Nears Smoking As Cancer-Causer

"Eye-Opener" Major Report Analyzed 7,000 Clinical Trials And Took 5 Years To Complete

[toldyouso21]

"Death rates from cancer have been dropping in recent years, Senay notes, and suggestions in the report could point the way toward even fewer cases of cancer, and fewer deaths."


Ooops. Did anyone besides me note a contradiction here? According to scientists and polls, obesity is on the increase in the US with over 3 in 4 adults being overweight and 1 in 4 morbidly obese. IN addition, 2 out of 4 children under age 12 have a weight problem and Hbp, heart disease and type II diabetes in children is increasing at an alarming rate.

If obesity is really definitively linked to cancer and more Americans are getting fat--why wouldn''t cancer rates be going up instead of down? THAT is a major discrepancy that does not appear to have been addressed.

[scoliosuxs]

The gov''t villified the smoker with all its might so that they could tax the He** out of smokers. Now they are going after the overweight people to tax junk food. Just wait. Soon you will be taxed because you are too short or have green eyes. Anything a politician needs to raise a tax can be manipulated by any stats.

[missingamerica]

It is obviously time for the various politicians to enact legislation against overeating as they have with smoking.

[maiingan]

They don''t include the probable fact that all the "red meat" was modified by domestication, and the pejorative does NOT include wild game or even American Bison meat from fenced herds.

[agarwal1]

Why do we use word "Obese" for FAT people?

F A T people are F A T!! FAT! FAT!! FAT!!!

They eat TOOOOO much, DO NOTHING.

THEY DONT WANT TO DO EXCERSIZE TO MAKE THEM MEANER BECAUSE THEY ARE SO LAZY. I HAVE NO SYMPATHY FOR LAZY FAT PEOPLE. THEY LIKE TO BE BURDON ON OUR SOCIETY AND THEY ARE NOT ASHAMED OF BEIGN VERY VERY FAT AND DEPENDING ON OTHERS..... FAT FAT FAT!!

[gronamox-2009]

Instead of spending millions on these lazy sons of *** who compile these phony reports that show statistical anomalies (not objective or verifiable experimentation) which always occur in subjective surveys and these quacks/alchemists pretend they causes of cancer, why don''t we find some researchers who can actually cure cancer in all its occurrences. I don''t know what causes cancer but one thing I do know-neither do they. All of these findings are useless. They are the justification of weak minds to stay employed by grant money and they help no one and scare everyone and turn people against their neighbors and for that, these liars and charlatans should be tarred and feathered. Harvard indeed. You should see the scum Harvard employs these days. If I took seven years to tell someone they could die of cancer by peeing to the left of the bowl, chances are they would die of cancer. In another 50 years these con-artists will all be dead and no one will care if it was cancer or the result of being sat on by heavyset folks who were mocked because of the vomit they call research.

[actornaught]

actornaught, it seems you would like to assume statistical correlations were all that was went into the study and that those are somehow invalid...
Posted by rf36 at 12:45 PM : Oct 31, 2007

Not at all, i actually THINK the correlations that are made by this study are valid. But that''s only my opinion, as the actual cause-and-effect don''t appear pinned down yet.

As to the rest of your post, i don''t quite get your point. But you should scroll down to where i also said that there is no comparison between smoking and obesity. The former is a pointless addiction that can''t be isolated to just the primaries, the latter is much much more complex.

[rf36]

actornaught, it seems you would like to assume statistical correlations were all that was went into the study and that those are somehow invalid. A little rounder that you''d like, are we? Afraid a tax might actually be imposed on high-fat, mega-calorie foods? Worried that a package of Twinkies will reach proces comparable to a pack of cigarettes (as they should)? Smoker have been forced to carry far more than their fair share of healthcare costs in the form of outrageous tobacco taxes. I doubt that most of that money even gets near the healthcare system. Anyway, it''s time for the fatties to start carrying their weight, so to speak. Let''s get those "fat taxes" going!

[riggie3]

We need to require all long-term welfare recipients to work. That will thin up the nation!

[kuestes]

Great, now our wonderful politicians will become the police of everything we eat. I am sick of the govt and liberals telling me what to eat, how much to eat, when to smoke (even tho I don''t smoke it''s just a reference to big govt), what I can publically say and most of all that I can''t talk about God in schools. People--it''s time to stand up and take back our country from the dems and republicans and start over with the way our founding fathers meant for it to be!!

[actornaught]

...Viagra causes hearing loss. I wouldn''t be surprised if all the medications rushing into the market are really the cause for so much sickness.
Posted by horse3farm at 12:22 PM : Oct 31, 2007

What''s the rush? limbaugh says "Come again?"...

[agarwal1]

Smoking is bad ... it is banned almost everywhere, even in your home

Fatty food is bad..... it is banned too

Fat people + Cancer .... NOW LETS BAN ALL THE FAT PEOPLE ..... HUMMM HOW?.... WELL SHIP THEM TO ENEMY COUNTRY... OR KILL THEM ... BUSH WILL LIKE TO KILL THEM WITH HELP OF CHENNY GUN!

[horse3farm]

I don''t believe any of it...next year there will be another study and it will say something different. How many times have they said coffee is bad, no coffee is good, no coffee is bad...and on and on. Red meat? Been eating it for years and years and years, along with my parents, and grandparents. And the FDA approves drugs that eventually cause harm. Don''t forget...now Viagra causes hearing loss. I wouldn''t be surprised if all the medications rushing into the market are really the cause for so much sickness.

[actornaught]

Posted by LloydBest1 at 11:56 AM : Oct 31, 2007

Some of those questions were answered in the article.

Tho'' it doesn''t say explicitly, i''m assuming conclusions are based on correlation alone. Another assumption is that the smokers in the study were likely tallied seperately, along with diet variations.

[aerodog]

Can''t wait to delve into my king size whopper meal after I finish my cigarette

[lloydbest1]

Coulpe of questions....
How many of these people participating in the study also smoke? The article never says.
How is obesity defined? Usually the Body Mass Index is used and 30 and higher is generally considered obese. I used to play football and still participate in sports (old fool that I am); and many of these people who might otherwise be considered overweight or even obese actually have less body fat content than many of us who are considered lean.
How is eating red meat connected with obesity? In addition, "red" meat animals such as wild game (deer, elk, etc) are a whole lot different from factory farmed cows and whatnot. The steak or lamb you get in the stores today are so overloaded with antibiotics, steroids and God knows what other garbage that I am surprised the animals stay dead after they''re slaughtered. I limit my meat intake largely because I don''t trust this store bought cr*p.
Diet is also important. It is possible to get fat on a vegan diet. I know a few who are. So, then, it is the excess lardage or the diet that''s the major cancer culprit? And if it is the diet, what does that say to those who diets are called into question, who weigh within normal limits and get little additional exercise?
There are other questions but I''m running out of room..

[actornaught]

...increased exposure to carcenogenic molecular systems.
Posted by glaswolf at 09:52 AM : Oct 31, 2007

Or whatever genetic predisposition that causes obesity to be more likely could also more easily trigger cancer in the same person. It''s not clear, but i think all this study does is make statistical correlations, and not any hard links between food and cancer.

And for you morons that have and will compare smoking to obesity in any fashion, you''re, well, morons.

[hawksprings]

Don''t worry my fat friends!!
When Hillary''s Brave New Politburo takes over Healthcare, you will be told what and how much to eat, or you will be denied treatment.
All behavior and calorie intake will be monitored and controlled by The Government.
There will be no more fat people.

[hawksprings]

"More proof that humans were never designed to be carnivores."
Posted by shanev137

Designed? Did you say ''Designed''?
Why you ignorant, homophobic, red-neck, religious right-wing global-warming-denier whacko flat-earther!!
How dare you say "Designed" when referring to human beings!!


LOL!

[zootallures2]

Also stranger is the rise in autism... and who was it that "laid her seed to waste"... Africans. And what about those FEMA camps?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X4HAIwJBEU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOBP2hmubpA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3Fhg5ZDlJo

Oh, I''m just crazy....LOL!