Comments on: Poll: Most Back Public Health Care Option

CBS News/New York Times Survey Shows Most Americans Approve Of Government Intervention In Health Care Coverage

[PJG_R]

Because..... Fox sucks and here's a little secret for you.....they're not really fair and balanced....shhh... don't tell anyone.

[whosaid1]

ok....and tell me again why any trust should be put in a survey done by CBS???!!!!

[abbe91]

Sometimes you need some benchmarks to see how a system works. Let's have a look at infant mortality (number of deaths/1000 live births, starting with the best scores):

#224 Singapore 2.31
#223 Bermuda 2.46
#222 Sweden 2.75
#220 Hong Kong 2.92
#221 Japan 2.79
#220 Hong-Kong 2.92
(...)
#217 France 3.33
(You will find many of the West-European countries in that range, not going to copy them all)
#211 Czech Republic 3.79
(...)
#206 Slovenia 4.25
(...)
#193 United Kingdom 4.85
(...)
#190 Wallis and Futuna 5.02
#189 Canada 5.04
(...)
#181 Cuba 5.82 !!! despite the embargo
#180 United States 6.26
(...)

Source: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2091rank.html

[antoniof123]

I know that is true my wife is a doctor and she has no problem with medicare. But you listen to the reactionary party of America the far right wing nuts and they come up with nonsense. That is the problem medicare is far more cost effective and they have a much lower cost. Of course they don't have to pay a departing CEO 1.5 Billion (United Health Care) when he left.

[jsd330]

So why is it so many people from other countries come to the U.S. for medical care at the Mao clinic, Cleveland clinic and many other famous U.S. hospitals? If every other country has medical care that is so much better then the U.S. As the old saying goes "you get what you pay for". The majority want's discount government healthcare and that's what you'll get a discount health plan. If medicare is so good, then why do the majority of medicare recipients have to pay extra for a medicare supplement plan through a private insurer?

[Pojman]

The poll does not deal with the specifics of the bill before Congress, and therefore the conclusions drawn are miscontrued to biased conclusions.

The question of "medical insurance" is ambiguous. Does the question mean "catastrophic insurance" only? Or will, for example, Viagara and Celebrex be covered for all in a quasi "drug stamp" program to feed a national addiction?

The poll never asks if people approve of the "bill before Congress" (because such a bill doe not exist). Therefore, the poll results are construed with bias to apply the results of a question to voting on a piece of legislation that has yet to be written.

Biased poll data interpretation is invalid, and that is what the rport conclusions are. Filled with injected bias. The report conclusions are invalid due to said bias.

[sjc_1]

The donut holes were put there by the Republicans that ran both houses during that time. It was a botched micromanaged mess meant to be a windfall give away to the drug companies. They made sure the Medicare could NOT negotiate prices. Now there is your first clue as to intent.

[saturn05]

This is the gov'ts business, just like the auto and finance industries. We are in a crisis and we need help. If the automakers and wallstreet can get bailed out because of corporate creed and criminal activity, then the average joe should get bailed out too, which in turn helps all of us out. We pay for the uninsured as it is, so why not do it more efficiently.

[lagniappeint]

Uh, it doesn't work everywhere else... For example our neighbor to the north, is slowly switching away from socialized medicine. Talk to the doctors there if you don't believe me. And why are all the private (pay extra) clinics popping up?

The UK has long had dual systems (NHS and private). A recent study places Canada near the bottom (28th? our of 30). Another puts the UK near the bottom compared with other European systems. The ones at the top... all private systems.

Are their problems? Yes. Do we want government run healthcare? Let me put it this way... Do you enjoy going to the DMV? That's what you're suggesting for healthcare.

The stories are out there about how "well" these other systems are working. Take a minute and read and you might learn something.

[cydygitt1]

Yep, republican'ts just love Americans paying the bills for a system that is dysfunctional, ineffective, and broken -- essentially a sick care system -- where for-profit insurance companies make decisions that should be left for patients and physicians.

We spend $2.5 Trillion annually on health care -- 18% of our GDP and far more than any other country spends on health care -- yet the World Health Organization ranks U.S. health care only 37th among nations, on par with Serbia.

We spend twice as much per capita on health care as European countries, but we are twice as sick with chronic disease.

It's no wonder that a majority of Americans back a public health care option, since our completely dysfunctional system costs too much already, and comprehensive health reform legislation is our opportunity to change the paradigm to cut costs and focus on a wellness society.