Comments on: Poll: Most Say Bush Iraq Plan Falls Short

72% In CBS Poll Want U.S. Out Of Iraq Within Two Years - But Doubt That Will Happen

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by donbl1 September 18, 2007 2:49 PM EDT
Not sure America is ready for a first family in an open marriage. She wasn''t mad about Monica other than it was in the press and hurt their political future (hers). She could not be any more mad than the half dozen that preceeded her.

Pick someone who has had a real job and been effective. She hasn''t even had a bill passed by the Senate. Don''t focus on the rhetoric but focus on the substance.

We have a chance to select someone really fresh and without baggage. Both parties have better candidates.
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by clestes-2009 September 18, 2007 2:48 PM EDT
Wow,

MORE people want the troops reduced AFTER dubya''s speech than before.

You know, I really do believe the people are waking up! It gives me real faith to realize that the American people, for so long believers in lie after lie, are no longer believers.

Now, if they only wake up to the lies about Iran, before it is too late.
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by hwy71so September 18, 2007 2:45 PM EDT
And so you choose a candidate that has proven to be prone to criminal activity? Hillary??? A new direction? What? That of self-service?

Watch out, we''ll be on a white water rafting trip before you can spit!!!!
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by clestes-2009 September 18, 2007 2:43 PM EDT
pepperp1

She will be.
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by clestes-2009 September 18, 2007 2:40 PM EDT
Oh get a grip Hwy71So!!

Your religious right party has made a COMPLETE MESS out of the country in 6-1/2 years and they have not accomplished any of their goals.

It is time for new leadership. Someone who will take the country is new direction and start the process of healing the great divide in the people and restore our reputation over seas.
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by donbl1 September 18, 2007 2:38 PM EDT
Good OP-ED piece in the WSJ today by a writer for Der Spiegel, Gabor Steingart, who was a child in Berlin just after WWII.

Very interesting view of what was and how long it took to get what we have today in Berlin and all of Germany.

A very brief summation of the article is that Berlin and Baghdad were similar in many ways and it took YEARS to cause change and he thanks America for sticking it out.

Read the article for another view of America and how long it takes to cause change. Of course, America in those days did not have TV and internet.......
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by kissamaarse September 18, 2007 2:38 PM EDT
These poll results come as such a shock.
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by hwy71so September 18, 2007 2:37 PM EDT
""Bush tries to give the commanders what they need, but congress won''''''''t fund it."

Total BS. Name one funding bill that was not passed by congress? Can''''t, cause it didn''''t happen. Facts are still important to some of us.
Posted by itchyb at 11:29 AM : Sep 18, 2007"

You''re partially right. They were reworked, and whittled away to a bare minimum.
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by clestes-2009 September 18, 2007 2:36 PM EDT
I was doing some reading on what the reps are predicting for next year and privately they will be happy if they lose only 4 seats in the Senate.

The rep govn of MN or MI, put it very clearly. He said that the rep party had NOT gotten the lesson of Nov 2006. They are completely off on reading the pulse of the American people.

Poll after poll shows that the American people are veering away from the rep party as it is today. It is not so much they embrace the democratic party as they reject the rep party.

They are worried about the debt, the deficit. The want money spent on alternative energy. They feel less safe today than before 9-11. They want healthcare, immigration revamped.

They do not want to be in a protracted war in the middle east.

The dems are reading the American people much better than the reps and if they don''t get their vision corrected, Ron Paul will be right on the money when he said they will lose big next year.
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by hwy71so September 18, 2007 2:32 PM EDT
I am convinced, and it brings me distress, that my countrymen are beyond repair in their liberal mode of thought.

They''ve dismissed God, country and their fellow man for the dollar. For liberties that assault the very nature of being human.

Image has become more important than integrity and this country continues to slide.

When you elect Hillary Clinton, I hope you''ll all be happy with what you get. I will NOT vote for her, nor Obama, and in that I''ll know I did my part.

Reap what you sow.
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by itchyb-2009 September 18, 2007 2:29 PM EDT
"Bush tries to give the commanders what they need, but congress won''''t fund it."

Total BS. Name one funding bill that was not passed by congress? Can''t, cause it didn''t happen. Facts are still important to some of us.

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by one_american September 18, 2007 2:28 PM EDT
Democrat Rep. John Murtha told reporters Monday at the National Press Club: %u201CA lot of people are very unhappy with the Democrats because we haven%u2019t been able to get anything done.%u201D

ROFLMAO!

There is you MANDATE, liberals!
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by hwy71so September 18, 2007 2:23 PM EDT
Hwy71So said: "The Iraq contingency was going well. ... They should be working on our law books and trust in those they pay to think contingency"

what!? These sentences makes no sense in English. Usually I can figure out what even marginally literate commenters meant to say, but not this time...

Posted by andor3 at 10:29 AM : Sep 18, 2007

Isn''t cut and paste great? You can leave out key words and phrases to make it say what you want it to say.

The generals, colonels, admirals and rear admirals are the experts in the military arts. All them to exercise this expertise instead of interfering before they''ve carried the plan through to completion as congress did in the beginning and continues to do. Bush tries to give the commanders what they need, but congress won''t fund it.
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by pepperp1 September 18, 2007 2:11 PM EDT
You can''''t spin this atrocity, it''''s all on Bush and his neo-con buffoons.


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Posted by realpatriot1 at 10:53 AM : Sep 18, 2007


And his co conspirators the Republican Senate, he can not continue with out them. Those supposed moderates that talk a good line then find a faux something to hide behind and vote to sutain their war, Collins is one who should be ran out of town by the voters she is patronizing with her false drama but no vote.
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by micma-2009 September 18, 2007 2:10 PM EDT


It''s clear that most Americans want us out of Iraq. But we are being ignored by Bu$h and the GOP even as they borrow billions from China on our name to pay for their boondoggle.



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by realpatriot1 September 18, 2007 1:53 PM EDT
Hwy71so,

Nice try at spinning the blame away from Bush, but it''s way too lame and illogical to convince any sane person who''s not been asleep for 4 years.

Congress didn''t decide to disband the Iraqi army then spend 7 to 9 years rebulding it. Congress didn''t choose to go to battle with the "Army that we had". without proper body and humvee armor. Congress didn''t handpick the Iranian-loyalist government to put on the ballot. Congress isn''t responsible for Abu Graib and the outrage in the Iraqi street. Congress didn''t allow the national Museum to be looted,showing the world that chaos prevailed. Congress didn''t decide to ignore General Shinseki and send too few troops for the job, the send another 30,000(still not enough) 4 years too late.

You can''t spin this atrocity, it''s all on Bush and his neo-con buffoons.
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by alicia64 September 18, 2007 1:41 PM EDT
Bottom line: Americans value life over oil. Bring our children, brothers, sisters, cousins, fathers, mothers etc....home. I have 2 boys and 3 cousins in Iraq - I support our troups, not the war. We can''t take care of our own country - what in Gods name do we think we are doing over there. If we invested the amount of money we spent on the war in finding alternative fuels, we would be way ahead.

Bring ''em home............
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by tomtomasters September 18, 2007 1:32 PM EDT
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by tomtomasters September 18, 2007 1:31 PM EDT
What would I do if I was a Terrorist?
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by pepperp1 September 18, 2007 1:29 PM EDT




Oil for Blood no other way to spin it. And Bush is disliked because he is an incompetent, arrogant, swaggering, probably criminal President, who has made amoral decision for political power with support from a minority of Americans and attacked, yes attacked in his rhetoric, policies, drunken spending the majority of Americans who are in the middle and to the left. He ruled for the Right and failed to represent 70 percent of America in doing so.


Do not delude your self America will never thank Bush for Invading Iraq and securing the flow of oil it has only delayed the withdrawal that will place our country back on a prosperous ethical footing they will call if for what it is Blood for oil and the beginning of the decline of America as a Super Power.



Greenspan clearly indicates there was not oversight; Representative Davis of Va took Oversight out of the name of his committee for gods sake. The arrangements was of three sets of co dependent agendas, Bush wanted his war and not to break a sweat working to hard being President and they enabled him, they wanted to spend like drunken sailor on special interest so they would be re elected, the RNC replaced the Government and the RNC operatives moved to our Government payroll, match apparently made in heaven.


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