Comments on: Poll: Americans More Optimistic On Surge

29% Now Believe Troop Surge Is Helping In Iraq, But Most Still Say War Going Badly

[red1530]

ConDumism you must have failed US history because the Republicans were founded in the north. I personally do believe that the surge is working.

[jydavis1]

that clip of Ron Paul rocks- very nice.

[jydavis1]

that clip of Ron Paul rocks- very nice.

[tylenol6]

The only people who believe the surge is working are
the idiots who are drinking the Kool-Aid. Don't
believe what CBS is saying. It's all propaganda for
Emperor Bush. I can't wait till the bozo's in congress returns from their much deserved MONTH LONG
vacation while our men and women are dying every day. Remember, they work so hard getting NOTHING accomplished for the past 7 months. VOTE ALL THE IDIOTS OUT IN THE NEXT ELECTION - THAT'S IF WE HAVE
ONE.....

[walt1944-2009]

This is the same sort of bull-pucky we heard about Vietnam, when the LBJ Texas (of course!) Democrats and the generals were all saying that 500,000 GI's in Vietnam were turning the tide, and victory was at hand if he only had another 250,000 more!

Trouble was, the more men you added, the more casualties you got and the more body bags came home with someone in them! The enemy was as stupid as the poiticians and armchair generals thought! They knew the bigger a committment you made, the bigger a committment they would make, and, of course, their supply lines were a lot shorter than ours. Take a lesson from history! The only reason we won the American Revolution was because we fought like the Viet Cong and North Vietnamese: Hit and run, plus we were fighting on our own soil and our supply lines were a lot shorter than the British were.

Does this sound like what the "insurgents" are doing today, AGAINST US!

SIG HEIL, BUSH!!!

[navyretired2]

Put away your partisan goggles for a few minutes and check out the video of Ron Paul at the following website:

VIDEO
http://www.immigration
watchdog.com/?p=4402

It will just take a few minutes of your time.

This is the only guy currently going for president that I have ANY optimism about at all. I honestly believe he'd give the war on terror an honest go, and not wage war on the Iraqi people. He's all for accountability and the Constitution...music to my ears.

[ubrew12]

I'm certain we can win in Iraq with a sustained presence and a collection of surges.

We can also win as we did in the Philippines in the 1910s: burn all their crops until 200,000 filipinos starve to death (most of them women and children).

The problem is: that's the kind of stink that just DOESN'T wash off, especially in the modern world.

Loyal Bushites should chuck their pride at the side of the road, realize that one can't always enforce a respect for liberty and democratic values at the point of a gun, and do the right thing for AMERICA... for once.

I seriously doubt that's gonna happen, though, setting this country up for another 9-11. The prospect (and what it means for getting 'tough on terror' Republicans elected) must make Cheney and Rove smile!

[feelfree1]

NavyRetired2,

Re: "He needs to be removed from office immediately, along with the rest of his cartel, and whoever takes over needs to offer a big fat apology to the people of Iraq, on behalf of the American people."

Excellent point!

[navyretired2]

"About one-third of Americans say that the U.S. should reduce troop levels in Iraq, and another 30 percent say the U.S. should remove all troops from the country. Just under one-third say America should increase troop levels or keep them at the same level they are today.

Nearly half the public, 46 percent, says the U.S. presence in Iraq is creating terrorists who want to attack America. Just 26 percent of Americans say they approve of how President George W. Bush is handling the situation in Iraq, a figure nearly unchanged since last month."

Time for some "by the people, for the people."

The people say, "Mr. Bush, you have failed sir, decist." It's up to him how to do that politically to save as much face as possible, not us, we merely require that it gets done, preferredly soon.

He needs to be removed from office immediately, along with the rest of his cartel, and whoever takes over needs to offer a big fat apology to the people of Iraq, on behalf of the American people. They must know that while we support combating terrorism, we don't support the humiliation he has caused their country and ours.

[katg21]

"There are two groups that cannot afford to see the US win in Iraq:
Terrorists and Democrats.
They both have too much to lose."
Posted by Hawksprings at 07:17 PM : Aug 13, 2007

Bingo

[condumism]

Posted by One_American

Get prepared to eat crow, liberals.

While you apparently support the GOPigs steam-roller strategy of arrogance and fascism? You self-centered losers have nothing to offer America, except ignorance and arrogance, ie: the GOP steam roller strategy. It's no wonder the GOP is now nothing more than a regional party of the original Confederate States. Are you delusional pigs aware that 13 states (Utah and Kansas included) will not win the presidency in 2008? I know, as any fascist that you'll change the subject, thus avoiding responding to my simple arithmetic question.

[ubrew12]

Bush: "If you don't embrace freedom and democracy, I'm going to shoot you in the head."

Anyone wonder why the only lesson being learned here is how to threaten other people? The exact OPPOSITE of what freedom and democracy are all about.

Our forefathers are turning over in their graves. Look who became the Redcoats.

[feelfree1]

How%u2019s it going in Iraq?

%u201CThe Growing Iraq Resistance Movement in the U.S. Military%u201D

%u201COne of the biggest 'pockets of resistance' to the war in Iraq is U.S. soldiers who refuse to fight on moral and ethical grounds.%u201D

%u201CMeet Clifton Hicks, who returned from fighting in Iraq to apply for and receive an honorable discharge based on his conscientious objection to war he developed in Iraq. It's a war, says Clifton Hicks, fought for the "filthy rich too cowardly to do it themselves" who want more money, fought by "us, the masses of uneducated fools killing each other."

%u201DSoldiers such as these %u2014 who have been on the ground in Iraq, awarded medals for their valor, seen and done things unimaginable to most of us %u2014 offer us some of the best news reports of this war. I believe the stories from these soldiers can help us understand what is wrong in Iraq.%u201D

www.alternet.org/waroniraq/42272

[feelfree1]

How%u2019s it going in Iraq?

%u201COperation Arrowhead Becomes Fountainhead of Anger%u201D

%u201CBAQUBA - Ongoing U.S. military operations in Diyala province have brought normal life to an end and fueled support for the national resistance.%u201D

%u201CBaquba, 30 mi. northeast of Baghdad, and capital city of the volatile Diyala province, has born the brunt of violence during the U.S. military Operation Arrowhead Ripper.%u201D

%u201CConflicting reports are on offer on the number of houses destroyed and numbers of civilians killed, but everyone agrees that the destruction is vast and the casualties numerous.%u201D

www.antiwar.com/ips/fadhily.php?articleid=11266

[feelfree1]

How%u2019s it going in Iraq?

%u201CInterviews with US veterans show for the first time the pattern of brutality in Iraq%u201D

%u201CA number of the troops have returned home bearing mental and physical scars from fighting a war in an environment in which the insurgents are supported by the population. Many of those interviewed have come to oppose the US military presence in Iraq, joining the groundswell of public opinion across the US that views the war as futile.%u201D

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article2758829.ece

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%u201CIRAQ Baghdad suburb residents flee after US raids%u201D

%u201CI%u2019m fleeing my home today and won%u2019t take anything with me. I cannot see my children dying. We need protection and we cannot get it in Sadr City any more. US troops are invading our houses, shooting at our doors and killing innocent people and I don%u2019t want my loved ones to be the next victims,%u201D said Mamun Ali, 45.

%u201CThey made it clear during their raid on 30 June that they were going to return to finish the militants and surely dozens of innocent Iraqis are going to die just for remaining in their homes,%u201D Ali said. %u201CWe are going to Najaf today with the hope of finding a camp for the displaced to stay in and save our lives.%u201D

www.irinnews.org/Report.aspx?ReportId=73049

[hawksprings]

There are two groups that cannot afford to see the US win in Iraq:
Terrorists and Democrats.

They both have too much to lose.

...

[one_american]

This is not good news for liberal Democrat faction or the terrorists - however it IS fantastic news for everyone else in the world!

Get prepared to eat crow, liberals.

And save room for a heapin' helpin' of humble pie, afterwards!

[feelfree1]

Related:

"Fatigue Cripples US Army In Iraq"

"Exhaustion and combat stress are besieging US troops in Iraq as they battle with a new type of warfare. Some even rely on Red Bull to get through the day. As desertions and absences increase, the military is struggling to cope with the crisis."

"...in the northern city of Mosul, an officer talks privately. %u2018We%u2019re plodding through this,%u2019 he says after another patrol and another ambush in the city centre. %u2018I don%u2019t know how much more plodding we%u2019ve got left in us.%u2019

"When the soldiers talk like this there is resignation. There is a corrosive anger, too, that bubbles out, like the words pouring unbidden from a chaplain%u2019s assistant who has come to bless a patrol. %u2018Why don%u2019t you tell the truth? Why don%u2019t you journalists write that this army is exhausted?%u2019

www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/08/12/3129

[katg21]

"This poll was conducted among a random sample of 1,214 adults nationwide, interviewed by telephone Aug. 8-12, 2007. The error due to sampling for results based on the entire sample could be plus or minus three percentage points."

Uh huh, so in other words it means nothing.

[condumism]

The gall of CBS to entitle this story as it is. The credibility of CBS, especailly since hiring Katie Couric, is marginal at best.