Comments on: Poll: Congress Gets Dismal Marks On Iraq

CBS/NYT Poll Shows Most Americans Want Troops To Start Coming Home

[down-ndirty]

We will just have to leave it to the readers of these comments to decide for themselves whish is more subjectively appropriate.

Posted by jn122736 at 11:44 AM : Jul 24, 2007
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Your posts are said in a very persuasive manner, and without the vitriol.

[realpatriot1]

down-n-dirty,

In fairness to S-Temper, I think I'm the one who you think is afraid of planes falling on his house. My point was that I see and hear the planes from Pope AFB nad it reminds me of the proximity to Ft. Bragg, which is the largest military base for special ops in the country. My fera isn't having planes falling om my house, it's having a dirty bomb set off in the general vicinity of the base.

That's my concern, not S_Temper's.

[down-ndirty]

...and who is your candidate for president?

[secundus2]

If polls have any validity, one-third of the people who now think the Iraq war can or should end with American withdrawal were clamoring for war four years ago. At the high point of war-fever 86% of Americans thought the war was going well or very well. Neither Bush nor Congress can be blamed for such misinformed judgment, nor should the popular view of the present moment be confused with sound judgment. Policy cannot change with the wind gusts.

[down-ndirty]

and Libertarians (like me) are vehemently against Socialism in ANY form. Posted by S_Temper at 08:48 AM : Jul 24, 2007
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What type of libertarian are you?

[down-ndirty]

S_Temper - I usually don't respond to idiots, but in your case I will make an exception. I am American born for probably more years than your feeble brain has been processing electrical impulses. You are claiming to be educated. I apologize to your family for the dismal state of education in this country. You may want to look up the meaning of concise and utilize this essential skill in your postings. I do congratulate you on finishing the Blogging for Dummies book, but hopefully you will aspire for more .. a brain is a terrible thing to waste.
Posted by afmca at 08:36 AM : Jul 24, 2007
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I second that. S_Temper should be B_Temper for Bad Temper. His sole purpose for coming on these boards is not to engage in a dialog, but to agitate and stir the pot.

That makes him a troll.

Do not feed the troll!

[down-ndirty]

afmca, your English not so good. You foreigner? Posted by S_Temper at 08:03 AM : Jul 24, 2007
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Imperfect jerks should not try to be the grammar police.

The vitriol is flowing this morning. LOL!!! All this from a guy who is paranoid about airplanes falling onto his house. LOL!!!

S_Temper is one sick puppy...

[down-ndirty]

The 25% of Americans who still support President Bush are in the tail on the RIGHT SIDE. Just thought I'd clue you in, since you are so confused.
Posted by S_Temper at 07:28 AM : Jul 24, 2007
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Do you have a source for this? Or are you "shooting from the lip," as usual?

[clestes-2009]

Hey, all you rowdy and ready to fight reps in Congress, I urge you to continue your support for the Bush doctrine of "invade and get your a.s.s. kicked". Keep on ignoring the American people.

You will have plenty of time to wonder what you were thinking once you are voted out of office!!

[abbe91]

"Socialism is the OPPOSITE of American Capitalism."

Socialism: complete takeover/control/ownership of Mega-corporations by the government.
Posted by S_Temper at 11:14 AM : Jul 24, 2007"

Another proof that nazis were not socialists ... since they were in business with other capitalists like Prescott Bush, the grandfather of the "decider" who practically made his fortune from the poor guys dying in Auschwitz ... (not shown on Fox news).

[jn122736]

S_Temper;
My first response to you was about your presumption to %u201Cteach%u201D realpatriot1 the definition of the word %u201CNazi%u201D by using YOUR version of the word.

Isn%u2019t that where the %u201Cquibbling%u201D really started with you being the instigator?%u201D

Perhaps you should look up the definition for %u201Copinionated%u201D
Where else, except in your opinion, did I use either the word %u201Cleft%u201D or right?
And as for my knowing or not knowing anything about Libertarian ideals, I%u2019ll leave you to your opinion on that.

Now if you would like to debate whether or not our present government (elected officials) are controlled by Mega-corporations I suspect you will find many takers on this site.

BTY, this is farther than I generally go in trying to explain my points, so you have a nice day.

[ioweign]

I vote Republican because it is the lesser of the two evils. Dems are much more destructive to the American way of life, so I vote against them. Democrats represent WELFARE, MINORITY INTERESTS, ANTI-PATRIOTISM, SOCIALIZATION, REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH, and everything else that contradicts or distorts the free market equilibrium.
Posted by S_Temper at 10:07 AM : Jul 24, 2007

S_Temper have you been in the Armed Forces?

[realpatriot1]

S_Temper,

If you read any of my posts the last couple of days regarding Iran and Pakastan you would see that I'm a bit of a hybrid between a surrendercrat and a chickenhawk.

starleo,

I know Spring Lake. I can't say what little town I'm in lest 7 pesos shows up at my door looking for crack, but it's in Harnett County and begins with A. You can probably figure it out.OK, it's Angier. I'm outside of town, he'll never find me.

[realpatriot1]

S_Temper,

I don't remember who said it but an impeachable offense has been described as whatever Congress
decides it is.

Without going on and on with details, here are the areas that would constitute impeachable offenses to me:1.)Contempt of Congress-refusing compliance with valid Congressional subpoenas, utilizing signing statements to circumvent the legislative role of Congress, knowingly providing false or misleading intelligence to Congress; 2.)Lieing to go to war, 3.) obstruction of justice related to both the investigation of the outing of a CIA agent under deep cover and the investigation of vote stealing by individuals in the Department of Justice, 4.)mishandling of highly classified national security information and declassifying the identity of a CIA agent under non-official cover in violation of established procedure.

These are the matters which readily come to mind.
I haven't supported impeachment in the past on the CIA matters because I believe there's already indictments under seal awaiting the President wheen the next attorney general takes office and executes them.

What constitutes the final straw to me is the habitual contempt of Congress and something I didn't mention above, the May executive order giving the President the authority to declare martial law and suspend the Constitution if he decides it's warranted.

The phrase, figures don't ly but liars figure, may have some substance in these polls. One of the reasons overlooked is that the people whom were polled just may be victims of misinformation prior to their position given via the poll.

All media articles are presented in the spirit offered from the sources available. Such as the mention of Anbar Province showing success suggesting the progress is all due to the SURGE plans being implemented properly. But, most of the praise should be with the Iraqi people who are the ones who turned the situation toward favorable by forming their own alliance and expressing to the insurgents that they would no longer permit the upheaval of criminal acts being promoted. It worked, and the U.S. realized that what has been suggested for a long time %u2013 negotiations with the opposition %u2013 has merit and has proven it%u2019s value in this issue.

Now, there are articles regarding the Oil Project which is a shelved issue by the Parliament until further negotiations show more fairness toward distribution of revenue to the Iraqis. If one reads the insinuations that the fault is all of the actions of the Parliament, the attitude toward that group is negative. However, the real fault is in the original document which was written primarily by the Bush Administration and promoted vigoursly for signature quickly before the Parliament discovered the degree of impropriety. Believing that the Parliament is the culprit is not proper.

[ckcool192001]

The democrates in congress are trying, you have to give them that you just have the republicans standing there backing their lame duck president. There were 18 bench marks that Iraq should have achieved. they made what 8. If this was a test you had taken in school the Iraq government would have recieved a failing grade. Yet as the Iraq government contiues to fail and recieve failing grades Bush insist on allowing our troops to stay. Going back to the school example, it would be like the teacher standing over you while giving you a test and you still fail. Call your republican representatives and senators and tell them they will loose votes unless they support a withdrawl plan for Iraq.

[starleo146]

Clestes if I live to be 100 which I will not, I am not sure how on Gods earth that people in this country think the way they do I will never understand, I can not figure out just why or where all this coming from and what makes them think this way other than ant-depressant pills is numbing their brains.

[jn122736]

S_Temper;
You quote wikipedia, an opinion based encyclopedia.

I quote one of three definitions of the word %u201Csocialism%u201D from Miriam-Webster, a long established and accepted dictionary.

The point is, there are several forms of %u201Csocialism%u201D which renders the term inexplicit at best.

You said:
Socialism defined means, %u201Ccomplete takeover/control/ownership of Mega-corporations by the government.%u201D

I said:
%u201CComplete takeover/control/ownership of the government by Mega-corporations defined equals our present form of Socialism. I will say however that the present situation will rapidly change into a form of monarchism/elitism. I.e. the top 5% (or less) owning everything and the remainder being virtual slaves.

We will just have to leave it to the readers of these comments to decide for themselves whish is more subjectively appropriate.

[starleo146]

Real Patriot I use to live in a town called Spring Lake My husband was stationed at Pope Field. I was friends withe the Mayor there she owned a propane gas company. Small world isn't it. Still live in N.C.

[starleo146]

afmca you are right one only has to look at the no confidence on Gonzales 38 republicans thought he was just fine. They do think party first look how they are doing the senate right now. They will never let them( democrats) win a thing they have stopped them even if it was good for the country they didn't care. You are absolutely RIGHT ON.