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CBS/NYT Poll: 61% Say Congress Shouldn't Fund War Without Timetable For Withdrawal

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by lars2008-2009 July 19, 2007 4:25 PM EDT



It's going so well in Iraq. Why not just stay the course?


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by tucano2 July 19, 2007 4:06 PM EDT
The most effective way to cause your enemy to disperse his troops ineffectively and leave the way open for your own forces to maximize penetration and gain is mis-information, dis-information, and deception. These things Bin Laden has done masterfully, with the result the USA and "coalition forces" are pinned down in a meaningless and insignificant location (Iraq). In the mean-time attacks elsewhere are carefully planned and coordinated. There is no way to "win" the Iraq conflict because that is not where Bin Laden plans his greatest confrontation; Iraq is but a side-show into which the USA has been sucked, denuding defenses where Bin Laden actually intends to strike. The strike zone is within the borders of the USA, and this is being reached via Mexico and our own porus southern border - just as Bin Laden has planned. Giving the Devil his due does NOT mean joining up with him.
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by j4401 July 19, 2007 4:06 PM EDT
The Real Reason We're In Iraq

The short answer is "OIL." We went to war with Iraq because an influential group of conservatives convinced President George W. Bush that it was in America's best interests to conquer Iraq as a first step toward dominating the oil-producing nations in the Middle East.
Try as we may, we are not going to turn Iraq into a model democracy. The Sunnis don't want democracy. The Shiites don't want a democracy. The Kurds don't want a democracy.
The Saudis do not want a new democracy as a neighbor. Nor do the Kuwaitis. Nor do the Syrians.
There was no "exit plan" because we never intended to exit. The plan was, and is, to build military bases in Iraq and stay there forever. Our leaders see Iraq as a place to make money. So Bush & Co. have set up their friends to cash in on the rebuilding of Iraq, a job that should be done (for pay) by the people who built it in the first place: Iraqis.
The longer we stay there, the more Iraqi children end up maimed or dead, the more of our young men and women die.
Clearly, our government lied to us, and to the world, to get us into this war. That alone should tell us it's wrong.






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by clestes-2009 July 19, 2007 4:05 PM EDT
Hummmm.. 69% percent of Americans polled think funds for Iraq should be tied to timetables or not available at all.

You listening candidates??? Time to wake up if you're not. You keep on supporting this disaster and you will be out of office come Nov 2008.
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by j4401 July 19, 2007 3:59 PM EDT
The Real Reason We're In Iraq

The short answer is "OIL." We went to war with Iraq because an influential group of conservatives convinced President George W. Bush that it was in America's best interests to conquer Iraq as a first step toward dominating the oil-producing nations in the Middle East.
Try as we may, we are not going to turn Iraq into a model democracy. The Sunnis don't want democracy. The Shiites don't want a democracy. The Kurds don't want a democracy.
The Saudis do not want a new democracy as a neighbor. Nor do the Kuwaitis. Nor do the Syrians.
There was no "exit plan" because we never intended to exit. The plan was, and is, to build military bases in Iraq and stay there forever. Our leaders see Iraq as a place to make money. So Bush & Co. have set up their friends to cash in on the rebuilding of Iraq, a job that should be done (for pay) by the people who built it in the first place: Iraqis.
The longer we stay there, the more Iraqi children end up maimed or dead, the more of our young men and women die.
Clearly, our government lied to us, and to the world, to get us into this war. That alone should tell us it's wrong.






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by SIDNEYWILLIAMSMD July 19, 2007 3:58 PM EDT
Most Americans are being misled by the media including CBS into thinking nothing is being done about the enemy in Iraq. Rephrase the question as to whether we should surrender to the enemy and the answers to the poll would be 90% opposed. This is why the surrender crowd has to phrase the proposition as a "withdrawal" or re-positioning of the troops. In fact the left does not want an American Victory. Like Lyndon Johnson the senator, who actually dictated the target in Vietnam from the Whitehouse, the Democratic Senate wants to call the shots from Washington DC instead of letting the men on the ground call the shots.
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by secundus2 July 19, 2007 3:56 PM EDT
Since 67% of Americans wanted the Iraq war to start within 48 hours after an ultimatum was delivered to Saddam Hussein in 2003, we ought to find the nearly half of the 61% who now in 2007 want withdrawal timetables and ask them what they were thinking four years ago and why we should care about their opinions now or ever again. Were they unaware in 2003 that war is evil and involves casualties? My recollection is that the military projected up to 5000 casualties. Were the 77% of senators who voted to use force not paying attention until their ox was gored?
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by j4401 July 19, 2007 3:55 PM EDT
The Real Reason We're In Iraq

The short answer is "OIL." We went to war with Iraq because an influential group of conservatives convinced President George W. Bush that it was in America's best interests to conquer Iraq as a first step toward dominating the oil-producing nations in the Middle East.
Try as we may, we are not going to turn Iraq into a model democracy. The Sunnis don't want democracy. The Shiites don't want a democracy. The Kurds don't want a democracy.
The Saudis do not want a new democracy as a neighbor. Nor do the Kuwaitis. Nor do the Syrians.
There was no "exit plan" because we never intended to exit. The plan was, and is, to build military bases in Iraq and stay there forever. Our leaders see Iraq as a place to make money. So Bush & Co. have set up their friends to cash in on the rebuilding of Iraq, a job that should be done (for pay) by the people who built it in the first place: Iraqis.
The longer we stay there, the more Iraqi children end up maimed or dead, the more of our young men and women die.
Clearly, our government lied to us, and to the world, to get us into this war. That alone should tell us it's wrong.






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by prinzowhales July 19, 2007 3:55 PM EDT
No time table...Troops Home Now! The Iraqis want us out...the IEDs are hitting our troops... we are accomplishing nothing there but fighting and dying for Big Oil and Israel. The fourteen permanent bases and the Vatican City-sized embassy show from the beginning that our intention was to steal Iraq's resources and occupy it permanently. 'al Qaeda' is just a perjorative used against the freedom fighters.
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by SIDNEYWILLIAMSMD July 19, 2007 3:53 PM EDT
Most Americans are being misled by the media including CBS into thinking nothing is being done about the enemy in Iraq. Rephrase the question as to whether we should surrender to the enemy and the answers to the poll would be 90% opposed. This is why the surrender crowd has to phrase the proposition as a "withdrawal" or re-positioning of the troops. In fact the left does not want an American Victory. Like Lyndon Johnson the senator, who actually dictated the target in Vietnam from the Whitehouse, the Democratic Senate wants to call the shots from Washington DC instead of letting the men on the ground call the shots.
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by SIDNEYWILLIAMSMD July 19, 2007 3:53 PM EDT
Most Americans are being misled by the media including CBS into thinking nothing is being done about the enemy in Iraq. Rephrase the question as to whether we should surrender to the enemy and the answers to the poll would be 90% opposed. This is why the surrender crowd has to phrase the proposition as a "withdrawal" or re-positioning of the troops. In fact the left does not want an American Victory. Like Lyndon Johnson the senator, who actually dictated the target in Vietnam from the Whitehouse, the Democratic Senate wants to call the shots from Washington DC instead of letting the men on the ground call the shots.
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by briannorwood July 19, 2007 3:53 PM EDT
Majority of Americans support withdrawal timetable... Finally, we're winning in Iraq.

My guess is that come September, this number will be in the 80 percent range -- which will make it indefensible for the GOP to continue supporting this arrogant, stubborn administration.
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by wfbdem July 19, 2007 3:52 PM EDT
Who possibly can think the war is going well? Maybe if you hate the military and revel in the misery of others.
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by houser123 July 19, 2007 3:50 PM EDT
If we want to tie funding to a time table for bringing our troops home, vote for senatorial candidates that agree with this thinking. There are cetainly enough seats open in 08 to change the tide. I will be voting in my state to repalce our current republican senator whos is a lap dog for the president.
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by neoconrcrazy July 19, 2007 3:38 PM EDT
Good results this poll - let's all tell bush his game is up - we're on to him!
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by red164 July 19, 2007 3:36 PM EDT
Senator Gravel was one of the first current or former elected officials to publicly oppose the planned invasion of Iraq in 2002. He appeared on MSNBC prior to the invasion insisting that intelligence showed that there were indeed no weapons of mass destruction, that Iraq posed no threat to the United States and that invading Iraq was against America%u2019s national interests and would result in a disaster of epic proportions for both the United States and the Iraqi people.
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by SIDNEYWILLIAMSMD July 19, 2007 3:27 PM EDT
Most Americans are being misled by the media including CBS into thinking nothing is being done about the enemy in Iraq. Rephrase the question as to whether we should surrender to the enemy and the answers to the poll would be 90% opposed. This is why the surrender crowd has to phrase the proposition as a "withdrawal" or re-positioning of the troops. In fact the left does not want an American Victory. Like Lyndon Johnson the senator, who actually dictated the target in Vietnam from the Whitehouse, the Democratic Senate wants to call the shots from Washington DC instead of letting the men on the ground call the shots.
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by usadvisor101 July 19, 2007 3:26 PM EDT
duh, I like how the media is always blamed for the failures of the Bu$h oil admn. but in reality they actually aid the TALES FROM THE CRYPT WHITEHOUSE,........ paleeze use your brains here, you seen what happened durring the last elections ??


so for almost three years congress HAS not done shiite to stop the madman in the whitehouse !!

the media should be interviewing evryone involved and asking them ,why dont you do what the people asked !!!

how about that !!!
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by grazinggoat July 19, 2007 3:16 PM EDT
where are the previous comments?
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by red164 July 19, 2007 3:13 PM EDT
Senator Gravel was one of the first current or former elected officials to publicly oppose the planned invasion of Iraq in 2002. He appeared on MSNBC prior to the invasion insisting that intelligence showed that there were indeed no weapons of mass destruction, that Iraq posed no threat to the United States and that invading Iraq was against America%u2019s national interests and would result in a disaster of epic proportions for both the United States and the Iraqi people.
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