Comments on: Poll: Calls To Get Out Of Iraq Escalate

77% In CBS News Poll Say War's Going Badly, 40% Urge Withdrawal Of All U.S. Troops

[jegibbons]

THE ALPHABET NETWORKS tell us how bad it's going in Iraq. NPR tells us how bad it's going in Iraq.
Most of the big print media tells us how bad it's going in Iraq.

The generals fighting the war are and more more optimistc given the increased US troop stength and the on going training and restructuring of the Iraqi military.

The professionals fighting the war feel the cause is a just one and while it'ometimes toug sleding, progress is being made.

WHO DO YOU BELIEVE?
It's a choice. I can tell you this much. If I'm running a fever and have an updet stomach I won't be calling MSNBC for a diagnosis!

[lars008-2009]

NOW CAN WE KILL THEM???
If they can kill us, we can kill them

Qaeda warns of attacks 'worse than 9/11'
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070530102648.wuwa6k96&show_article=1

Hizbullah Deputy Sec-Gen Sheikh Naim Qassem: We Have Jurisprudent Permission to Carry Out 'Martyrdom' Operations, Fire Missiles on Israeli Civilians From Ayatollah Khomeini
http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD154907

Switching Sides: Inside The Enemy Camp

But then in 2000, well before his arrest, something happened which would make Abas question everything he believed in: a fatwa, a religious edict, was issued by Osama bin Laden.

"It should be understood that killing Americans and Jews anywhere found are the highest act of worship and the highest form of good deeds in the eyes of Allah," Simon quotes bin Laden.

Abas and his fellow commanders were ordered to read the fatwa to their men and make sure they carried it out. The others obeyed, but Abas refused. It was his moment of truth. He firmly believed that jihad was to be fought only on the battlefield in defense of Islam; he had always been taught that the killing of civilians had nothing to do with holy war and that it was forbidden.

The fatwa justified killing non-Muslim civilians everywhere.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/04/60minutes/main2761108.shtml?source=RSSattr=60Minutes_2761108
American Al Qaeda Member Threatens Attack
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/29/terror/main2865282.shtml

[rhs648]

"Example from FoxNews: "Question: If Democrats GAIN control of Congress, are you afraid your taxes will be raised?"..."

Posted by Iceman_1960

Is there any question that taxes will go up under the memocrats?

[radiob-2009]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article2005592.ece


Welcome to "1984"

[irishmail42]

Irismail42 have you been asleep and to believe Faux Nooz tells me a lot. I watched an investigative report on the war and Rumsfeld lost this war right at the beginning by cutting forces and equipment and the equipment he sent was not enough and not sufficient for the type war we are fighting it was on CNN I hope everyone watches it. It is a documentary on how wrong can you be to me. They still haven't gotten the equipment to these boys to do the job effectively. The war is over BRING THEM HOME. I wish we could hang in but the situation is just a loosing game. I wish they had Petreus there at the beginning he might of told Rumsfeld what for and Petreus has really performed miracles but these boys are on there 4th turn and they are tired and worn out.
Posted by at 10:47 AM : Jun 30, 2007

starleo146 don't get me wrong. I was never a fan this war. As for Fox News,I very seldom watch it. But as I said even their polls show the American people loosing they stomach for this fiasco. And finally, to my comment about support for the war, American's being who they are will always back a winner. No? If most Americans had had the opportunity to watch British TV during the run up to the war there would have been much less enthusiasm for it.

[drummer94]

Re: "For Bush to compare..." Amen, Icedude. That's just one more thing that brings to light his delusions of grandeur. Now that his supporters are looking for that last chair for when the music stops, one would think he'd wisen up and resign.

[radiob-2009]

Every breath you take, every move you make, someone is watching you.

From the London Times

Cyber-bullies who plague internet chat rooms with obscene and insulting comments will be banned under the first national scheme to strip them of their anonymity.

People going online will be forced to provide their real names and social security numbers under a new law that makes internet portals responsible for policing message boards and weblogs.

The law has been introduced in South Korea, and is certain to be closely monitored by other countries where there is concern over online abuse.

The move, which is decried by some as an overly fierce infringement of online liberties, aims to curb the most damaging excesses of so-called %u201Ckeyboard warriors%u201D %u2013 people who concoct ***-scandals, fraud allegations and other libels that chiefly target figures in the public eye


Welcome to "1984"

[iceman_1960]

For Bush to compare his Iraq war to the American Revolution, and by implication, himself to George Washington, is an obscenity.

[harp1963]

I think Americans would have supported the war if there had ever been any evidence that Iraq had anything to do with 9/11. The fact is, all of the 9/11 terrorists were from Saudi Arabia except one that was from Yemen. Why didn't we attack Saudi Arabia?

Saddam never did have any weapons of mass destruction, just like the UN weapons inspectors who had been in the country for years told them. This war was about oil, devising a way to channel taxpayer money into your buddies companies with unbid government contracts, and pure and simple greed. Anyone who has a brain and can't see that our great nation is being run by a cartel, the likes the world has never seen before, needs to seek a brain transplant.

[iceman_1960]

"Bush, who plans to spend Independence Day with the West Virginia Air National Guard in Martinsburg, W.Va."

God forbid he should spend it with a cross-section of Americans. He hides in friendly surroundings as Osama hides in caves.

P.S. seven-pesos, your invitation is in the mail.

[iceman_1960]

RE: "CBS (Corrupt Broadcasting Station) you have No Creditablity "left" when it comes to either Polls or News."

Rasmussenreports.com is giving essentially the same poll results as CBS for the Iraq war.

[iceman_1960]

"No one, least of all Bush, has ever been able to define it except in Pie-in-the-Sky terms that insult the intelligence of the audience."

Speak of the... and he's sure to appear.

Bush: The Iraq war is what the Founding Fathers would have done. (Lars008... did Jefferson send a huge army to liberate the people in the Barbary Pirates' North Africa, and give them democracy ?)

"We remember the spirit of liberty that led men from 13 different colonies to gather in Philadelphia and pen the Declaration of Independence," said Bush, who plans to spend Independence Day with the West Virginia Air National Guard in Martinsburg, W.Va.

"Today, a new generation of Americans has stepped forward and volunteered to defend the ideals of our nation's founding. They've helped bring freedom to the Iraqi people," he said. "They've helped make Americans more secure."

Meanwhile the Commander in Chief is enjoying himself, fishing in Kenne-B*UNK-port, Maine, wearing a patriotic sweatshirt.

Bush is the type of guy that wears his phoniness on his sleeve.

[perception5]

CBS (Corrupt Broadcasting Station) you have No Creditablity "left" when it comes to either Polls or News.

What a liberal left-wing political organization you've become.

FYI to the American public Rick Kaplan, head of CBS News, is personal friends of Bill and Hillary Clinton, sleeping not once but twice at the White House. The last time in April 2000.

So much for a "free and independent press"

CBS will do anything to "prop" up their close pals the Democrats...........Really sad

It's sad and stupid to wait any longer to pull the plug on this misadventure.A few huge egos with a wiff of religion mixed in will not allow the admission that this is a terrible mistake.If they or their children were walking the streets of Baghdad it might be different. Oh well.

[iceman_1960]

"No one, least of all Bush, has ever been able to define it except in Pie-in-the-Sky terms that insult the intelligence of the audience."

Pie on the Sky: An empty wish or promise. This expression was first recorded in 1911 in a rallying song of a union, the International Workers of the World (or "Wobblies"): "Work and pray, live on hay, you'll get pie in the sky when you die." [American Heritage Dictionary]

With minor changes that could be made into a good bumper sticker for the war in Iraq.

[walt1944-2009]

When confronted with the latest CBS polls regarding the war in Iraq, the Sith Lord, Emperor Bush, declared that he found the findings by CBS to be flawed and expressed them as being "irrelevant". Instead, he placed his trust in the comments made by Ann Coulter and other supporters who declared Emperor Bush as being the best CinC since FDR, that the war in Iraq was being run "brillantly", that the "surge" was a masterful manuevor, and victory was only a matter of weeks away!

Naturally, after making these comments, Ms Coulter promptly forgot everything she said and moved on to renewd attacks against John Edwards, claiming Edwards should save the tax payers money on $700 haircuts, have his head shaved bald and appear opposite Bruce Willis in the next "Die Hard" movie.

SIG HEIL, BUSH!

[heartman69]

No doubt, this war has been mis-managed from its very inception. I will be the very first to say we should destroy any, and all, enemies of the United States who have brought great harm to us.

We must understand that Gen. Shinseki, former, Army Chief of Staff, informed Congress that we will need at least 400k servicemembers to meet our objective, maintain stability and protect our troops. He was rebuked, discredited and even fired by an arrogant Sec. of Defense (Rumsfeld). Rumsfeld, with the urging of VP Cheney, dispatched a, now disgraced, Asst. Sec of Defense, Paul Wolfowitz (of recent World Bank fame) to Capitol Hill to discredit Shinseki. The latter, in a then Republican Control Senate was easily accomplished. Rumsfeld, by the way, no military service, ruled that the mission can be accomplished with 200k troops all dissenters was put out to pasture. What a disaster, please remember this statement, "you got war with the equipment you have", Don Rumsfeld. Then Sec. of the Army, Mike White tried to explain to Rumsfeld, he, too, was fired! So you see, these buffoons Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz, all draft dodgers, might I had, refused to listen. That brings us to the blood soaking quagmire we are in today, Iraq.

[iceman_1960]

RE: Post by usadvisor101 at 11:34 AM : Jun 30, 2007

A list of neocons with mostly Irish sounding names.

That's a refreshing change on this forum.

Thanks.

[iceman_1960]

"I keep hearing the term "win in Iraq", but I don't know what that means. Does anyone else out there?"
- Posted by twylacrat at 11:26 AM : Jun 30, 2007

No one, least of all Bush, has ever been able to define it except in Pie-in-the-Sky terms that insult the intelligence of the audience. That, of course, is the biggest reason he fears deadlines: he knows that neither he nor the Iraqi government can ever meet them.

Henry Kissinger tried to define "victory in Iraq" in realistic terms, then declared it to be impossible:

"If you mean by "military victory" an Iraqi government that can be established and whose writ runs across the whole country, that gets the civil war under control and sectarian violence under control in a time period that the political processes of the democracies will support, I don't believe that is possible."
- Henry Kissinger, in a BBC interview on November 19, 2006

[v_1618]

THE U.S. SHOULD GET OUT FROM IRAQ NOW BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE .THE VICE PRESIDENT *** CHANEY ARE THE GREAT SATAN IN THIS WAR AGAINST HIS OWN GHOST.. THIS IS A INVISIBLE WAR TO GET THE GOODS FROM THE RICH REGION.. BUT THE U.S. ARE IN A WAR WITH A GREAT GHOST . AND SOONER OR LATER THIS GHOST WILL TURN VISIBLE AND THE SURPRISE WILL BE HUGE AND DANGEROUS FOR THE U.S. AND HIS ALLIES. THE U.S. WILL BE IN THE MIDDLE OF SOMETHING REALLY BIG, NASTY, AND VERY DANGEROUS IN POLITICAL TERMS THAT WILL INVOLVE THE WHOLE EUROPE UNION TOO, AND THAT GOONA COST THE DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM ITSELF. THAT WILL GIVE A HUGE CHANGE AND MAYBE IRREVERSIBLE CONSEQUENCES FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD. AND THIS WILL BE APOCALYPTIC TIMES VERY SOON TO HAPPEND. AND ALL BECAUSE MR. *** CHANEY WANTED THE OIL FROM THE RICH REGION..