Comments on: Poll: Doubts About McCain's View Of Iraq

CBS News Survey: 39% Say GOP Presidential Candidate Paints Too Rosy A Picture Of War

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by toldyouso21 April 12, 2007 12:39 AM EDT
like John McCain. If you ever saw the movie or read the book Faith of My Fathers, you would know he had a chance to go home early from the Vietnam POW camp due to his father's clout in the military. He chose to reject preferential treatment, stay with his fellow prisoners,and endure several more years of torture.
Anyone who makes a sacrafice like that deserves a shot at the presidency Posted by bizzzz at 05:26 PM : Apr 11, 2007

Ok. We'll state the obvious.... We have found McCain to be a bald faced liar. He lied not once or even twice, if you watch the you tube videos McCain vs McCain which compares the McCain in 2000 with the one now or even the one in 2000 with comments he made even a few minutes later...you would know that the man appears to be a pathological liar. Not a Misspeaker. That is just a polite word for LIAR.

So... you read a book that McCain wrote--and you determined the book was true because.....let's guess...McCain said it was true. Now...boys and girls, how likely is it that a person who lies to be elected or supported or to get converts to their side--how likely is it that they tell the truth?

I hope you are a Republican. One of those people Bush was talking about when he opined: "You can fool some of the people all of the time and those are the people we need to work on" RIIIIIIght. SAy goodnite Gracie.
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by April 11, 2007 11:26 PM EDT
Senator McCain cannot refrain from his self sustaining mis-belief that the Iraq war was or is justified. This is a direct try at the suggestion that the American People are dummied up with the Bush rhetoric that they will be gullible enough to believe anything. Anyone, and especially members of the press, present awareness of the Iraq debacle not being at all justified. People who have access to the internet should look up PNAC in their computer and discover the mental rigamortis that the Bush Administration believes the American Public has achieved ---it just ain't so Bushites - absolutely no justification - not even plausible excuses that could be used in last chance choices.

This horrendous mishap was wholly the product of a person [or perhaps a group] that decided they had the answer to a world more to their liking --and if the event was successful, they could enjoy the "control of the distribution of oil in Iraq%u201D and if that goal had a bit of favorable ending, %u201Con to Iran%u201D. Of course, the Afghanistan Pipeline Project had to fit in somewhere - the 9/11 issue gave that obstacle a convincing story.

Nope, not justified Senator. Could you just tell the truth.
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by bigsk8fan April 11, 2007 9:53 PM EDT
"I was a marine for 8 years and served in the first gulf war . . ." Posted by bizzzz

You are a hero in my book. Unfortunately, I think W must go. And so must anyone like McCain who supports this cursed war in Iraq. America should never be the illegal war aggressor. This is nothing like Afghanistan. Afghan Taliban protected Al Qaeda. Iraq actually executed many Al Qaeda agents. Now, more Iraqis have died under USA occupation in Iraq. They are asking us to leave. We should go if we claim any morality at all.
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by bizzzz-2009 April 11, 2007 9:27 PM EDT
To: forthepeopl1
My apologizes to OservantX, I meant to direct my last posting to forthepeopl1. He/she's the loser.
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by bizzzz-2009 April 11, 2007 9:27 PM EDT
To: forthepeopl1
My apologizes to OservantX, I meant to direct my last posting to forthepeopl1. He/she's the loser.
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by king77shaw April 11, 2007 9:23 PM EDT
that would be www.911revisited.com ... watch the DVD online ... the 9/11 myth exposed ...
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by bizzzz-2009 April 11, 2007 9:20 PM EDT
To ObservantX-
I was a marine for 8 years and served in the first gulf war (in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait), my MOS was explosive ordinance, I won four medals and six ribbons. I now live in southern Ca, work in real estate, and live a house with a view of the ocean. Your calling me a loser and a traitor? What do you do? How many medals has your country given you?
Your nobody. Your a loser and your family thinks your a loser.
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by king77shaw April 11, 2007 9:16 PM EDT
conservative thought is based on fear ... 9/11 was an event manufactured by American, Israeli and Evangelical right wing extremists to frighten the American public into their anti-Arab/anti-Islam, imperial world view ... the planes didn't bring the buildings down ... www.911revisted.com
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by aaabee-2009 April 11, 2007 8:57 PM EDT
Lets say we run from Iraq like whipped puppies. The enemies that we dont kill today will come back and haunt us tomorrow- US8thhit

Exactly what are we doing to protect this soil, we can't even close the borders to hungry illigals?
Our National Guard is over in the Mid East, our money, our soldiers are over there.

What has Bush done to protect THIS soil we stand on. He is making war in two countries, already spread thin. The extremists who hate America are a global threat. Anyone believe they only live in Iraq, Iran, or Afganistan? What about Syria, Pakistan, Israel, Egypt? No baddies there?

I feel no safer now with all our financial and military assets gone overseas, than I did in 9/11. If we need to be on guard, why not guard our own soil HERE, protect our own people HERE, instead of leaving us all vulnerable while Bush runs terrorists around in some other country?
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by aaabee-2009 April 11, 2007 8:51 PM EDT
I think McCain means well, he is probably a pretty good guy too. But his is not the backbone needed to clean up the stable that Bush/Cheneigh has made of our White House. He will be just as weak a leader as Bush is and will need to be reenforced by stronger more aggessive advisors. That opens the door to another bunch like Rove and Cheneigh and we just can't handle 4 more years of war and profit for the already wealthy.
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by randalds April 11, 2007 8:51 PM EDT
Lets say we run from Iraq like whipped puppies. The enemies that we dont kill today will come back and haunt us tomorrow. What will our enemies do tomorrow if we do not kill them today? they will continue to try to kill us.
I say kill them now in Iraq. There will always be wars and always be soldiers dying in them. The enemies that we do not kill today will kill us tomorrow, or we will have to kill them then. That is the simple reality that 9-1-1 taught us. Losing this war will cost many innocent lives. So lets stand up for freedom!
Posted by US8th_Hit at 04:03 PM : Apr 11, 2007

The people who are killing our troops in Iraq are Iraqi insurgents who want us out of THIER country. You don't honestly think that when we leave they're going to all start building canoes and rubber rafts to come to "fight us here" do you? No one (or dam*n few people) are so ignorant to buy that argument. this stupid fu*cking war in Iraq is drawing resources AWAY from our real enemies, not fighting them.
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by observantx April 11, 2007 8:43 PM EDT
Hmmm. everything is safe. Let's get get ready to roll. First, let's run down the list.

Body armor?
Check

Weapons?
Check

Ammo?
Check

Perimeter security?
Check

Vehicle Armor?
Check

Air cover?
Check

Medical EVAC ready?
Check

Well then, Looks perfectly safe to me! Let's have a picnic on the beach. Who's got the bratwurst and the potato salad? Oh, hey, the beers on me.


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by forthepeopl1 April 11, 2007 8:36 PM EDT
to bizzzz.- you are a loser to, and trader to this counrty. just as he is. maybe once upon a time he was a hero. not now,

if he beleive in this no good president that is a trator to.Robert H. Jackson, US Supreme Court Justice and Lead US Prosecutor at Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunals:

"A basic provision of the Charter is that to plan, prepare, initiate, or wage a war of aggression, or a war in violation of international treaties, agreements, and assurances, or to conspire or participate in a common plan to do so, is a crime."

(the UN Charter is a treaty)

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by bizzzz-2009 April 11, 2007 8:26 PM EDT
I like John McCain. If you ever saw the movie or read the book Faith of My Fathers, you would know he had a chance to go home early from the Vietnam POW camp due to his father's clout in the military. He chose to reject preferential treatment, stay with his fellow prisoners,and endure several more years of torture.
Anyone who makes a sacrafice like that deserves a shot at the presidency. NO ONE in the running even comes close to make the same sacrifice for their country as he did.
I hope McCain, Giuliani or someone else has better idea on how to fight this war on terror. If it had been won two or three years ago, no matter how gruesome it was, I do believe we would have been better off and moving forward at this point.
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by duhrer April 11, 2007 8:18 PM EDT
I'm not sure of the author or the publication, but I pretty sure I read here an article regarding the state of a world government today. It stated that we still have in our world, dictatorship, communism, socialism, anarchy and democracy to name a few, but all countries today operate under a common ideology... capitalism
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by homespunlady April 11, 2007 7:48 PM EDT
Losing this war will cost many innocent lives. So lets stand up for freedom!
Posted by US8th_Hit at 04:03 PM : Apr 11, 2007

Fighting this war has already cost at least 20 THOUSAND innocent Iraqi children's lives as well as the freedom the Iraqis had hoped for. Why else would they be demonstrating in the street to GET US OUT.
In the meantime OUR vets, OUR poor and OUR elderly are dying for lack of comprehensive health care funding and OUR children will be dying from the unimaginable debt this misguided president has DELIBERATELY PUT UPON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
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by yowza6667 April 11, 2007 7:35 PM EDT
Re: mike71067's comment:

I don't see a liberal bias here. The headline "Doubts About McCain's View Of Iraq" is appropriate in that it accurately describes the results of the survey. About half the respondents (39% + 9%) think he's not accurate versus 29% who think he is. That's a 1.7 to 1 ratio. If 23% of the respondents either didn't answer the question or said they didn't know, we can't infer from that that they don't (or do) think the senator is painting too rosy a picture. So the total percentage of respondents who think he is _not_ painting too optimistic a picture is not 61%, as you stated, but 38%, which is the same (margin of error is /- 5%) as the number of people who think the picture is too rosy (39%).

But the real issue is how many people think he's accurate vs. not accurate. Nearly half the respondents -- and 62% of those who answered anything except "don't know/no answer" ((39 9) / (39 9 29) = 62%) -- think he's not giving an accurate picture.
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by eeodonnell April 11, 2007 7:29 PM EDT
42% don't have any opinion of McCain at all or don't know who he is? Who are these people? Thank God voting is not a requirement as it is in some countries.
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by homespunlady April 11, 2007 7:28 PM EDT
US8th_Hit:
Yep, that old Southeast Asia "Domino Theory" that the "bad guys are gonna get us if we don't get them first" sure wuz rite (misspelling intentional)!!! Looky, at dem new commies comin' outta da Mideast!!! Dere gonna GET US AL-L-L-L!!
Not only dat but Saddam's STILL alive! Who's that Bin Laden guy that keeps gettin' in da way of our Prez's war? Our Prez is da Greatest warrior EVER!!! He fought off doze commies in '68 all da way from Boston. Killed dem all and nary a scratch!!!
(SATIRE FOLKS)

Tell ya what US8th_Hit I,ve got some REAL GOOD land I can sell ya CHEAP an' y'all can farm my mountaintop and relive the glory days that NEVER existed away from where you could harm the rest of us.

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by kcstan11 April 11, 2007 7:21 PM EDT

McCain blew his chance for the presidency in the South Carolina 2000 Primary when he caved in to Karl Rove's attack politics.

Every election that Bush has won has been tainted by LIES slipped into the campaign by Rove ... ever since he defeated Richardson for governor of Texas.

In 2000 McCain just plain "chickened-out" and swore allegiance to the Republican Party, instead of counter-attacking Dumbyas planted lies. I lost all of my respect for McCain back then.

His propoganda stroll through the Bahgdad Market was his way of supporting the 21,500 additional troops and ... it just plain sucked.

I would bet that in retrospect he would give his right arm to have that South Carolina 2000 situation back. Hey, John, that's what you get for supporting a MORON.

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