Comments on: Poll: The Politics Of Health Care

Most Americans Favor Universal Health Care, Give Democrats Edge On Improving System

[homespunlady]

I wonder how many of these comments were made by insurance agents and insurance company reps. Granted there are some insurance companies that pay in certain circumstances like the recipient is wealthy enough to afford a lawyer or has highly placed "friends" but from what I've seen waatching the aftermath of Katrina and who received the payments they were entitled to; it shows exactly what so many Americans face individually everyday. Granted VA isn't "millionaires coverage" but for those of us without millions to spend - about 95 percent of the population, it's better than lifetime bankruptcy and slavery to overwhelming bills from a system that's tilted to all or nothing.

[belovedlife]

Its hilarious readin the out rageous polecemist talking points coming out of people who seem to have very little idea the role and function of what the responsibilities for the public sector are.
In fact it seems as though many of the people complaining about how the public sector would ruin health care in the united states also have the expectation or maybe even the experience that the United States government is going to fail at providing something its own people deserve.
That lol it can't even manage to perform well enough to have its people trust the idea. That there isn't any trust at all.
That impression is so contradicted by how many people across the united states supported and believed this administration about its lies in Iraq. However while the rest of the world questioned the reality its own people swallowed the propaghanda. So maybe there is hope with UH sicne all americans need is the right pitch and sell because if they can swallow Iraq and a lousy foreign policy they can swallow anything with the proper conditioning. You'll get UH whether you want it or not.

[pjalbin]

I just returned from living in the UK for 7 years and participating in their health care system, NHS.
It is your worst HMO nightmare. I was assigned a clinic, I was assigned a doctor. You can't see a specialist unless your primary care doctor writes a letter and even then, you don't get to choose your specialist. An epidural was not an option in the delivery room, in my health district they didn't give it to mothers without a pre-diagnosed delivery problem. Other district had other policies. Google "NHS waiting lists" and see what you come up with.

Why would anyone think that the government can do a better job. We need to be able to shop for health insurance the same way we shop for car insurance. We need to be able to pick and choose our coverage options in a way unavailable a present. Adding government to the equasion will add more gate keeping control and higher cost as we all start paying for the civil servents who run the program.

[pjalbin]

I just returned from living in the UK for 7 years and participating in their health care system, NHS.
It is your worst HMO nightmare. I was assigned a clinic, I was assigned a doctor. You can't see a specialist unless your primary care doctor writes a letter and even then, you don't get to choose your specialist. An epidural was not an option in the delivery room, in my health district they didn't give it to mothers without a pre-diagnosed delivery problem. Other district had other policies. Google "NHS waiting lists" and see what you come up with.

Why would anyone think that the government can do a better job. We need to be able to shop for health insurance the same way we shop for car insurance. We need to be able to pick and choose our coverage options in a way unavailable a present. Adding government to the equasion will add more gate keeping control and higher cost as we all start paying for the civil servents who run the program.

[pjalbin]

Having lived in the UK for 7 years and participated in their National Health Service, I can speak from experience. Why would you want government, the same one that has given you the tax system, the same one responsible for the Katrina disaster, the same one that is responsible for the VA hospitals, in any way responsible for your health. The key sentence in the article is "Less than one in three, however, say the government would do a better job than private insurance companies at actually providing medical coverage." Insurence companies do not provide coverage and neither do governments, Doctors, nurses, and hospitals provide your health care. Cut the middle men out! Just like car insurance we should be able to shop for our insurance coverage and not be dependant on our work place.
We should be able to tailor our coverage for our needs.

Universal coverage as provided by the government would be equivalent to your worst HMO nightmare.

I my UK health authority you went to your assigned clinic to your assigned Doctor. You could ask for a 5 minute or a 15 minute appoint. Mothers giving birth were not allowed an epidural unless they had a pre-diagnosed problem pertaining to delivery. If you google NHS wait times you can read so many stories of having to wait for care in UK.

Yes, care cost to much here. New layers of government will not improve your access and will only drive up cost.

[sct1886]

I had to comment on this leftist propaganda. Whom were those interviewed? Illegals and professional welfare recipients?? Articles of this nature is why I do not watch nor read CBS news media, you lack any reason or credibility. Certainly heathcare is in dire need of reform from top to bottom amongst many other problems. Socialized medicine is not the answer.The old saying is so true "we are from the government and we are here to help you. Not!! Poor governence is the primary cause of most of todays problems. Yes, thank the hippie generaion for no accoutability for ones actions, endless greed and the nanny state.

[dittohead21]

Wow. Two leftist organizations, CBS and NYT, take a survey and the results support the pollsters' original positions. Who would expect anything different? Socialized medicine has yielded treatment delays, medical rationing based on age, political position, etc., and overall bad treatment everywhere it has been tried. Repeat this three times "capitalism works, socialism does not".

[dittohead21]

Wow. Two leftist organizations, CBS and NYT, take a survey and the results support the pollsters' original positions. Who would expect anything different? Socialized medicine has yielded treatment delays, medical rationing based on age, political position, etc., and overall bad treatment everywhere it has been tried. Repeat this three times "capitalism works, socialism does not".

[pjalbin]

Having lived in the UK for 7 years and participated in their National Health Service, I can speak from experience. Why would you want government, the same one that has given you the tax system, the same one responsible for the Katrina disaster, the same one that is responsible for the VA hospitals, in any way responsible for your health. The key sentence in the article is "Less than one in three, however, say the government would do a better job than private insurance companies at actually providing medical coverage." Insurence companies do not provide coverage and neither do governments, Doctors, nurses, and hospitals provide your health care. Cut the middle men out! Just like car insurance we should be able to shop for our insurance coverage and not be dependant on our work place.
We should be able to tailor our coverage for our needs.

Universal coverage as provided by the government would be equivalent to your worst HMO nightmare.

I my UK health authority you went to your assigned clinic to your assigned Doctor. You could ask for a 5 minute or a 15 minute appoint. Mothers giving birth were not allowed an epidural unless they had a pre-diagnosed problem pertaining to delivery. If you google NHS wait times you can read so many stories of having to wait for care in UK.

Yes, care cost to much here. New layers of government will not improve your access and will only drive up cost.

[atwabn]

So let me get this straight. The same government that is running the war in Iraq you want running our national healthcare system?

[bigbuy1]

The left wingers posts just indicates that they are true socialists. The founding fathers would roll over in their graves if they knew we were no longer the constitutional republic that they worked so hard to form.

[bellal-2009]

So you decide that people don't have a right to health care.

Posted by rudy654 at 11:55 PM : Mar 02, 2007

No people have a right to earn the money to buy what they want. I buy healthcare lots of it because for financial protection because one illness can be financially devastating. I have the best health insurance available and I wait for nothing and have access to the best Dr.s and hospitals. It's well worth the price.

[reasonabl]

If you love public housing, you're going to love public healthcare. The government does nothing well. Just listen to the recent ******** about the VA healthcare and its problems. The veterans deserve anything they can get. VA spending under Bush is up 77% or $30 billion and they still get slammed for their poor service. Now scale the VA system to the size needed to provide for EVERYONE! A 77% increase would amount to about $800 billion!!! And the activists would want more, more, more. Our taxe rates would move well beyond 50% to support such a system, just look at Denmark and other socialist countries and their tax rates. Don't listen to the liberals and their talk about people NOT having to wait for service and care in Canada. There is a standing "access to care committee" in BC trying to eliminate their severe wait time problem. This is not a temporary committee, it's a "standing" committee. Waiting for care in Canada is a chronic disease.

[jd19871]

If we can't afford healthcare individually, how can we afford it collectively? People who want socialized medicine think that someone else is going to pay for them to live their lives. Living off someone else's back is the same immoral outlook as a slaveholder.

What we have today is a government-regulated abomination. The answer is not more regulation, it is to remove government interference so we can experience a true healthcare market for the first time.

[belovedlife]

Im not wishing death.
Im just accepting that change is happening for the better. Im acknowledging and holding baby boomers responsible for giving up on their dreams and aspirations.
Accepting your own mortality allows you the comfort in knowing your insignificant life offers you a limited amount of time to accomplish something.
Dont put misconstrue my acceptance in the death of an overpopulated and sedentary part of civilization for wishing death.
I am just comfortable with the idea that once the baby boomers are gone generation x and the post generation x world will be able to apply the things that matter to them and that is better health and environment. Maybe not in Kansas though.

[keesey2003]

Rudy654,

Your story is really wonderful and I'm truly happy for your SIL and her family. However, read this survey and see what eastern Canada goes through with their healthcare, where there are 2 to 4 times [Quebec & Ontario] as many people than British Columbia.

http://www.who.int/patientsafe
ty/news/2006_hcic.pdf

A hospital can't turn away an emergency, including a mother giving birth [as it could be life threatening] or the premature child that needs asssistance in living. So, even if you didn't have insurance in the US, the same happy ending would have resulted here. Except with better service and more up to date technology. With better technology in western Canada, would a smaller baby have lived that year, that is the real question?

[realist1973]

On which residents did CBS and the NYT conduct their poll, those of Greenwich Village or Berkley, CA? What a joke.

'Journalism' itself is such a farce in this country. Any joe off the street can become a journalist. You don't need any specific training or proof of qualifications to get the job. You don't need to defend a thesis or prove your integrity and knowledge base to your peers prior to getting the job. And for the most part, we as the general public have absolutely no knowledge of the qualifications of those who are writing the stories that affect millions of us every day. For example, who conducted this poll?

Here's an anecdote: I have a close relative who established a bureau in a foreign country for a major financial newspaper we all know. He had a weekly widely read column dealing with significant economic isssues in this region. I'm not even sure if he ever even took an introductory economics class in college! This is how our 'news' is supplied!

For the record, I do know a few great journalists. I know the job is difficult and I know they work hard.

[belovedlife]

"why should I work if we're heading towards a socialist society"

I find that to be an erroneous comment in respects to a subject relating to what it in the end is about your local community.
People shouldn't work in a lot of things; we have a generation of young people who are smarter and more capable then anyone from the hippie generation: which sold out its own idealistic future for communes in suburbia.
Instead now the purpose is based on a corrupted consumer culture that is so in denial with the state their community is in and so afraid to pay for something that actually matters because they are no longer able to consume the knick knack garbage they've been taught to idolize from commercial television. The corporation isn't the problem. Neither is capitalism. Its the people and the impression they wont be able to indulge in the consumption driven corporate religion. But thats not purpose thats not life. Its death. Thank God the baby boomers are going start dying soon. Because with death there will be change and a better tomorrow. Read a book and get your own ideas!@

[cbsbssucks]

A poll by CBS and NYTimes - - what a load of ***. American hating *** - - when is the last time you saw anything good about America said by the red schmucks? God I am sick of their dribble - - sadly, the only offense they'd take to my tirade is the inappropriate use of the word GOD.

Get a life and find goodness in this world instead of hate - -

[realist1973]

Sorry NVrealist. I was actually replying to rudy654 with my last comment.